2025 Summer Transfer Thread. 😂

[J*B]

8 hours ago, Gordon Ottershaw said:

Perhaps that is because they have a large, passionate fanbase that won't turn their back on their club?

This reads like a dig at your own fans, so for absolute clarity let’s not forget the years of terrible ownership Charlton fans suffered resulting in major protests and a Not A Penny More ideology.

[Emerald Isle Rover]

6 minutes ago, Tomphil2 said:

Maybe there has been but at the end of the day if hes gone there for talks and been convinced by a manager he knows well and who knows him he might just feel that's the best place to take the next step.

If Dolan is located in South Manchester/Cheshire he won't even need to move or not far at least as opposed to rumoured offers from Glasgow where a player like him could sink pretty quickly.

Possibly Derby are his ONLY real serious option at this stage and the money isn't actually much more but it's easy to see why it's a better punt than Rovers right now.

You keep referencing rovers….im not defending rovers im merely stating that when a player comes out and does this sit down interview about wanting to play at a higher level etc I don’t think derby is that level that they might have hoped for 

[Exiled_Rover]

8 hours ago, Gordon Ottershaw said:

Perhaps that is because they have a large, passionate fanbase that won't turn their back on their club?

How long are Rovers fans meant to watch the life being strangled out of their club?

I guarantee every other fanbase would be down to the bare bones in the ground, like we are, if they found themselves in our situation.

[Exiled_Rover]

4 minutes ago, Emerald Isle Rover said:

You keep referencing rovers….im not defending rovers im merely stating that when a player comes out and does this sit down interview about wanting to play at a higher level etc I don’t think derby is that level that they might have hoped for 

Evidently Eustace, Batth and Weimann think it's a higher level...

[MarkBRFC]

25 minutes ago, Forever Blue said:

According to Derby ITK’s on twitter there has been no contact between Dolan’s agent and Rovers. No idea if that’s true, but it would tie in with the emerging pattern that the club is not engaging with the higher earners over contract extensions, or those wanting to become the higher earners. 
 

 

Probably not true in Dolans case.

We have to offer Dolan a new contract on at least the same terms as he's on now to trigger compensation in case he moves to somewhere else in this country.

Surely we have at least managed to do that!

[Tomphil2]

4 minutes ago, Emerald Isle Rover said:

You keep referencing rovers….im not defending rovers im merely stating that when a player comes out and does this sit down interview about wanting to play at a higher level etc I don’t think derby is that level that they might have hoped for 

He wants to leave Rovers they haven't even had talks or offered him anything since 2023 so it obviously is part of the equation and money at that side of it is obviously an issue.

If Rovers suddenly offered him 20 grand a week he might instantly sign but that isn't happening and right now Derby might be the only real offer on the table so referencing 'money over ambition' all the time doesn't really come into it.

[DutchRover]

Amount of gaslighting that comes from the club about "trying" or "offering" contracts and bids for players is pathetic and I am so fed up with it. If the club spent half as much time actually running the club correctly rather than trying to bullshit fans we wouldn't be in this position.

The fact that we have not offered terms to Dolan, and I would wager Batth/Weimann, is latest in long trend of budget-cutting that is crippling the club.

[Mercer]

10 minutes ago, MarkBRFC said:

Probably not true in Dolans case.

We have to offer Dolan a new contract on at least the same terms as he's on now to trigger compensation in case he moves to somewhere else in this country.

Surely we have at least managed to do that!

You would hope so but I wouldn't bet on it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Emerald Isle Rover]

9 minutes ago, Tomphil2 said:

He wants to leave Rovers they haven't even had talks or offered him anything since 2023 so it obviously is part of the equation and money at that side of it is obviously an issue.

If Rovers suddenly offered him 20 grand a week he might instantly sign but that isn't happening and right now Derby might be the only real offer on the table so referencing 'money over ambition' all the time doesn't really come into it.

Again missing the point but we will leave it there as it’s going nowhere 

[Tomphil2]

4 minutes ago, DutchRover said:

Amount of gaslighting that comes from the club about "trying" or "offering" contracts and bids for players is pathetic and I am so fed up with it. If the club spent half as much time actually running the club correctly rather than trying to bullshit fans we wouldn't be in this position.

The fact that we have not offered terms to Dolan, and I would wager Batth/Weimann, is latest in long trend of budget-cutting that is crippling the club.

They have no problem 'tying down' cheap incoming signings on 3 year contracts though.

Just wait till some of those lads have been a success at Championship level and expect a pay rise though.

[Tomphil2]

3 minutes ago, Emerald Isle Rover said:

Again missing the point but we will leave it there as it’s going nowhere 

It never will unless you consider other views than your own might have some legs.

[DutchRover]

3 minutes ago, Tomphil2 said:

They have no problem 'tying down' cheap incoming signings on 3 year contracts though.

Just wait till some of those lads have been a success at Championship level and expect a pay rise though.

It's why I believe Glen's comment about a wage-cap. Dolan will have wanted more than 10k based on his age and appearances etc, and we will have just said "nah" and let him walk.

It's why we can't renew Brittain, Trav or Tronstad either, because we just can't be bothered to pay them and would prefer a toddler we don't have to pay.

[Emerald Isle Rover]

Just now, Tomphil2 said:

It never will unless you consider other views than your own might have some legs.

My view is quite simple your making it complex to suit your narrative 

I’m simply saying that I think Dolan and his agent thought more ‘bigger’ teams would be interested in his services. And as of now (could easily change) it’s only Derby who seem serious….thats all im

saying nothing more nothing less 

[Neal]

45 minutes ago, Emerald Isle Rover said:

If Dolan goes to Derby it’s just for money I don’t want to hear about Eustace or ambitious owners etc it’s purely a money based decision. We have tried with him for 2 years even Gregg the egg couldn’t get him to sign on

To be fair, there's probably a few more reasons that that. He was never fully appreciated here and probably wanted a fresh start with a new set of fans. Busier stadium aswell. Probably chucked a few extra quid at him. More stability around the club. I see the why he'd want to move. 

[Tomphil2]

4 minutes ago, Emerald Isle Rover said:

My view is quite simple your making it complex to suit your narrative 

I’m simply saying that I think Dolan and his agent thought more ‘bigger’ teams would be interested in his services. And as of now (could easily change) it’s only Derby who seem serious….thats all im

saying nothing more nothing less 

These things often are complex watch any documentary or speak to any agent or player there is no need to creative a narrative.

I did also say it could quite simply be only Derby have made him a serious offer - which includes Rovers not doing so - and he fancies it.

So ambition doesn't come into it if there is no choice to be made and it's a case of a wage and a job, not just choosing the biggest paycheck as is your narrative.

Anyway he'll probably sign somewhere completely left field if you read comments on X every other club in the Championship seems to think they are in for him.

[MarkBRFC]

On Dolan, I wonder if someone will try and agree a fee with us to stop it going to tribunal like Peterborough/QPR did with Poku recently.

Tribunals can take months to sort out.

Edited 5 hours ago by MarkBRFC

[davulsukur]

1 hour ago, Forever Blue said:

According to Derby ITK’s on twitter there has been no contact between Dolan’s agent and Rovers. No idea if that’s true, but it would tie in with the emerging pattern that the club is not engaging with the higher earners over contract extensions, or those wanting to become the higher earners. 
 

 

It seems that the clubs preferred option is to keep players on the maximum of £10k per week for the duration of their contracts and forego any transfer monies, as opposed to offering them new & improved terms and getting them on a longer contract.

As it stands right now, the club have failed to negotiate a new contract with Ryan Hedges, the most bang average of championship players. Presumably, they want to keep him on his current terms for as long as possible and only think about putting a new deal under his nose in 12 months time.

[RevidgeBlue]

1 hour ago, Emerald Isle Rover said:

If Dolan goes to Derby it’s just for money I don’t want to hear about Eustace or ambitious owners etc it’s purely a money based decision. We have tried with him for 2 years even Gregg the egg couldn’t get him to sign on

What a load of nonsense - whilst I'm sure Derby will  be offering  him more money than we are, who do you think will finish higher in the table this season? Us or Derby?. I'd be astounded if it's us.

As for the money he's being offered I'd wager he's been on a ludicrously low wage up to now for a Championship player and that we've offered him that plus a pound or similar to stay simply so we can get compensation, not expecting him for one minute to be interested in re-signing.

[RevidgeBlue]

1 hour ago, arbitro said:

From tomorrow Rovers won't be paying the wages of the out of contract players including loans. How much will they be saving on the wages of Dolan, Batth, Weimann, Woodrow, Beck and Dennis? 

Do you pay the wages of loanees until June 30th or merely until the end of the playing season?

It seems to be rubbing salt in the wound to have to pay the wages of the likes of Dennis and Woodrow whilst they go on their jollies.

Edited 5 hours ago by RevidgeBlue

[MarkBRFC]

I think loans are usually until the end of May, aren't they?

[RevidgeBlue]

1 minute ago, MarkBRFC said:

I think loans are usually until the end of May, aren't they?

You would certainly hope so!

They'd have to be long enough to cover the play offs though. Not that we ever make them.

[chaddyrovers]

2 hours ago, davulsukur said:

Twitter rumour (so take it for what it is) gathering pace that Dolan will sign for Derby, along with Weimann and Batth.

So much for move to higher level of football. If he is joining Derby then that is for Eustace who he has always been close to and help him massively with mental health problems. Since Eustace joined Derby, people including myself have always though Dolan would go there to join Eustace, Gardiner and Downing at Derby

1 hour ago, JHRover said:

Just for money? Derby are skint.

How are Derby skint when they signings players for fees and offering contracts to free agents

1 hour ago, Tomphil2 said:

Possibly Derby are his ONLY real serious option at this stage and the money isn't actually much more but it's easy to see why it's a better punt than Rovers right now.

If Derby is the only offer he has had then maybe it tell you that either his terms are too higher or other clubs don't rate him that highly. I do rate him and I would have like him to stay here long term. I have the feeling that Dolan for the 18 months he wants to move on from us. 

1 hour ago, Forever Blue said:

According to Derby ITK’s on twitter there has been no contact between Dolan’s agent and Rovers. No idea if that’s true, but it would tie in with the emerging pattern that the club is not engaging with the higher earners over contract extensions, or those wanting to become the higher earners. 

Don't we have to offer him a new contract in order to receive a compensation fee from his next club? 

Edited 5 hours ago by chaddyrovers

[chaddyrovers]

11 hours ago, roversfan99 said:

Kaminski made a couple of mistakes in those last games before the injury he had that was hindering him finally became impossible to play with.

Prior to that, he had been excellent in that season. And had already got a previously earnt player of the season.

Recency bias makes people talk about him as if he was constantly making mistakes.

I was talking about his time at Luton not Rovers RF99. 

Thought that was clear. 

Yes I do think he should be getting a better move than Charlton 

[davulsukur]

7 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

So much for move to higher level of football. If he is joining Derby then that is for Eustace who he has always been close to and help him massively with mental health problems. Since Eustace joined Derby, people including myself have always though Dolan would go there to join Eustace, Gardiner and Downing at Derby

How are Derby skint when they signings players for fees and offering contracts to free agents

If Derby is the only offer he has had then maybe it tell you that either his terms are too higher or other clubs don't rate him that highly. I do rate him and I would have like him to stay here long term. I have the feeling that Dolan for the 18 months he wants to move on from us. 

Don't we have to offer him a new contract in order to receive a compensation fee from his next club? 

Assume we've just chucked a poor contract offer on the table, knowing he won't sign it, in order to get the compo but we won't have made any serious bid to keep him

[Forever Blue]

1 hour ago, MarkBRFC said:

Probably not true in Dolans case.

We have to offer Dolan a new contract on at least the same terms as he's on now to trigger compensation in case he moves to somewhere else in this country.

Surely we have at least managed to do that!

‘No contact’ read ‘recent contact’. They could have offered him a £5k a week contract 2 years ago, the agent goes back and says he wants £15k ( for example) and then no contact since.