2025 Summer Transfer Thread. 😂

[arbitro]

2 minutes ago, Tyrone Shoelaces said:

My wife marks GCSE English papers. One year the subject the kids had to write about was a big decision they’d had to make. One kid wrote that he’d had to chose between staying at P N E or following his agents advice and moving to Spurs. So he had an agent at 16.  The kid stayed at P N E but went on to have a long league career. He’s only precently retired I think.

One of the new intake at Rovers was recently featured in a national newspaper article bedecked in a brand of sportswear. This was arranged by an agent who was hoping to ingratiate himself to the lad and his parents for the future. But having an agent at 16 is against the FA rules but, as ever these people find a way of circumventing the rules.

[Tyrone Shoelaces]

6 minutes ago, bluebruce said:

Prem interest raises the price of course. Well, it should, we didn't give a shit when we sold Kaminski or Szmodics.

I’d be surprised if a Premier League team was interested at the moment. Last season was a bit of a set back for him. Having said that not all Premier League clubs are thst flush with cash.

[arbitro]

2 minutes ago, Tyrone Shoelaces said:

My wife marks GCSE English papers. One year the subject the kids had to write about was a big decision they’d had to make. One kid wrote that he’d had to chose between staying at P N E or following his agents advice and moving to Spurs. So he had an agent at 16.  The kid stayed at P N E but went on to have a long league career. He’s only precently retired I think.

One of the new intake at Rovers was recently featured in a national newspaper article bedecked in a brand of sportswear. This was arranged by an agent who was hoping to ingratiate himself to the lad and his parents for the future. But having an agent at 16 is against the FA rules but, as ever these people find a way of circumventing the rules.

[wilsdenrover]

24 minutes ago, arbitro said:

One of the new intake at Rovers was recently featured in a national newspaper article bedecked in a brand of sportswear. This was arranged by an agent who was hoping to ingratiate himself to the lad and his parents for the future. But having an agent at 16 is against the FA rules but, as ever these people find a way of circumventing the rules.

I thought players could have an agent from 16 but only with parental consent.

Edited, found the below (in the EFL youth development parents and carers handbook):

Edited July 7 by wilsdenrover

[KentExile]

1 hour ago, Madon said:

Silver Eze has just signed a 2 year scholarship. Don't know much about him but he was linked with AC Milan and Juventus not long ago so good to tie him down.

You would have to hope, that given he turns 17 in 2 months time (and can therefore sign a 3 year pro deal at that time), that this deal also included negotiations about locking that down too

[arbitro]

2 minutes ago, wilsdenrover said:

I thought players could have an agent from 16 but only with parental consent.

A parent of a first year scholar told me officially they shouldn't have but they can get boot and clothing deals. This person had already had offers.

[davulsukur]

1 hour ago, Madon said:

Silver Eze has just signed a 2 year scholarship. Don't know much about him but he was linked with AC Milan and Juventus not long ago so good to tie him down.

Some positive news!

Seems like a great effort from the club to keep him because, as you say, he's had some pretty big admirers recently.

[DutchRover]

Great to see Eze signed up, though I fear he will go the way of Phillips and Finneran. The same way Tyjon and Higgins seem to be heading - to a bigger team in the prem.

Football system is broken that a club like ours cannot bring through our best talents into the first team without them being poached by richer clubs.

[Exiled_Rover]

4 minutes ago, davulsukur said:

Some positive news!

Seems like a great effort from the club to keep him because, as you say, he's had some pretty big admirers recently.

If he's anything like he'll be playing in the first team soon enough - we're desperately short of numbers.

[wilsdenrover]

13 minutes ago, arbitro said:

A parent of a first year scholar told me officially they shouldn't have but they can get boot and clothing deals. This person had already had offers.

I’ve edited my previous post having found the info I was after.

What you’re describing doesn’t sound to be within the ‘advisory services’ remit…

[KentExile]

5 hours ago, blondie said:

Al-Sahafi only has 10 points on the GBE system,15 required, this would have to go to the exceptions panel.

 

 

5 hours ago, chaddyrovers said:

 

Don't we have 1 ESC spot left open? 

Should have one, Ohashi played enough  last season to be converted to a standard work permit,which frees up his slot

[bluebruce]

37 minutes ago, Tyrone Shoelaces said:

I’d be surprised if a Premier League team was interested at the moment. Last season was a bit of a set back for him. Having said that not all Premier League clubs are thst flush with cash.

I'd be surprised too, I was just going off the rumour being presented.

[bluebruce]

2 minutes ago, KentExile said:

 

 

Should have one, Ohashi played enough  last season to be converted to a standard work permit,which frees up his slot

And if we manage to ditch Mafoumbi we will have another, right?

[KentExile]

1 minute ago, bluebruce said:

And if we manage to ditch Mafoumbi we will have another, right?

should do, yep

Toth & Kargbo are the others, who can hopefully both be converted by the end of this coming season assuming they play enough

[bluebruce]

1 minute ago, KentExile said:

should do, yep

Toth & Kargbo are the others, who can hopefully both be converted by the end of this coming season assuming they play enough

Is the conversion period at the end of each season, or is it within a year of them signing?

[KentExile]

8 minutes ago, bluebruce said:

Is the conversion period at the end of each season, or is it within a year of them signing?

The way I read this, it can be any point from 12 months after signing (which I suppose means that Ohashi cannot technically be converted until the end of the month, although they may waive that given that there is no football to be played before then)

 

https://analyticsfc.co.uk/blog/2023/06/21/introducing-esc-the-new-gbe-guidance-opens-up-recruitment-post-brexit/

" The goal, in many cases, will be for the ESC player that has been granted a work permit on that basis to convert to a non-ESC player.

This process can take place after twelve months. At this time, if a player fulfils the autopass criteria for GBE or if they now meet the 15pt threshold through the calculations that have been in place since 2020, then they become non-ESC players with a GBE. This means that the player can continue to play in this country, and the club regains the use of that ESC slot.

However, there is another way for the player to convert to non-ESC status. If the player plays in 25% or more of the club’s EQP qualifying matches over the twelve month period or if they play the required percentage of available minutes then they can be converted to a non-ESC player and the club regains that slot.

That required percentage of minutes differs according to the level that the club play at, and the age of the player. The exact details are as in the table below:"

Edited July 7 by KentExile

[MarkBRFC]

33 minutes ago, DutchRover said:

Great to see Eze signed up, though I fear he will go the way of Phillips and Finneran. The same way Tyjon and Higgins seem to be heading - to a bigger team in the prem.

Football system is broken that a club like ours cannot bring through our best talents into the first team without them being poached by richer clubs.

To be fair, we did the same to Accy and Rochdale for Silver and Tyjon, as what prem clubs are doing to us.

[bluebruce]

3 minutes ago, MarkBRFC said:

To be fair, we did the same to Accy and Rochdale for Silver and Tyjon, as what prem clubs are doing to us.

Difference is we don't have Prem club resources. It also doesn't make it right either way, the system is broken.

Someone said we paid a 6 figure fee for Eze if I recall, so I'm not sure we did abuse the system. I can't imagine it entitles a League Two club to that level of compo for a 15 or 16 yr old whatever he was. Sounds more like a fee we agreed. Regardless, we wouldn't have been paying much more than that for him realistically, whereas a Prem club can fart out a fair fee for these players. But they don't have to, so they don't.

 

[wilsdenrover]

27 minutes ago, KentExile said:

The way I read this, it can be any point from 12 months after signing (which I suppose means that Ohashi cannot technically be converted until the end of the month, although they may waive that given that there is no football to be played before then)

 

https://analyticsfc.co.uk/blog/2023/06/21/introducing-esc-the-new-gbe-guidance-opens-up-recruitment-post-brexit/

" The goal, in many cases, will be for the ESC player that has been granted a work permit on that basis to convert to a non-ESC player.

This process can take place after twelve months. At this time, if a player fulfils the autopass criteria for GBE or if they now meet the 15pt threshold through the calculations that have been in place since 2020, then they become non-ESC players with a GBE. This means that the player can continue to play in this country, and the club regains the use of that ESC slot.

However, there is another way for the player to convert to non-ESC status. If the player plays in 25% or more of the club’s EQP qualifying matches over the twelve month period or if they play the required percentage of available minutes then they can be converted to a non-ESC player and the club regains that slot.

That required percentage of minutes differs according to the level that the club play at, and the age of the player. The exact details are as in the table below:"

What you’ve quoted isn’t quite correct…

If a player is being converted through now meeting the auto pass requirements the wait is not necessarily a full twelve months.

This is because the regulation says the process must take place during a transfer window and after at least one full window has passed.

A player relying on having played enough for his club to be converted needs to have played both the requisite number of matches and minutes (not one or the other)

The wording (in regard to the playing period) for this part of the regulation says ‘within 12 months’ which I take as meaning 12 months (as anything else makes no sense) and starts from the date the work permit was first issued.

As with the auto pass part of the regulation, this conversion must take place during a transfer window.

 

 

 

Edited July 7 by wilsdenrover

[Rover84]

41 minutes ago, KentExile said:

 

 

Should have one, Ohashi played enough  last season to be converted to a standard work permit,which frees up his slot

Toth, mafoumbi, Ak, are the only ones in squad I can think of. Sure we were allowed 5

[wilsdenrover]

3 minutes ago, Rover84 said:

Toth, mafoumbi, Ak, are the only ones in squad I can think of. Sure we were allowed 5

Four is the limit:

Edited July 7 by wilsdenrover

[Exiled_Rover]

1 hour ago, bluebruce said:

https://www.lancashiretelegraph.co.uk/sport/25293917.samsunspor-make-dolan-salary-claim-blackburn-rovers-wait/

I was surprised to see this club are ruling themselves out because they can't pay above a million Euros a year (20k Euros a week). That's higher than I thought he'd be demanding (unless he just doesn't really fancy a move to Turkey so would charge more). Though free agents do come with a wage or signing on bonus premium, often both.

I expect he has probably already had an offer with something approaching that wage. What I am confident of is he wouldn't have been demanding that from us a year ago if we had got our shit together, and definitely not 2 years ago.

I suspect part of that price is his agent advising him that he can get more money as a free agent (I know there's a tribunal fee) and part of it is because he's artificially supressed his own wages by not signing a new contract for us 2 years ago and he's trying to make up for lost earnings. 

[TurkishDelight]

25 minutes ago, Exiled_Rover said:

I suspect part of that price is his agent advising him that he can get more money as a free agent (I know there's a tribunal fee) and part of it is because he's artificially supressed his own wages by not signing a new contract for us 2 years ago and he's trying to make up for lost earnings. 

A player like Dolan can take a lot of money in sign on fee. My guess is between £1-2mill

[lraC]

18 minutes ago, TurkishDelight said:

A player like Dolan can take a lot of money in sign on fee. My guess is between £1-2mill

If he gives Ruben Rochina a call, everyone could do well out of this.

[Browjd]

 

 

 

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