roversfan99 Posted Sunday at 13:26 Posted Sunday at 13:26 Is it after this week when we fly away for a week to Spain? In which case, assuming we dont sign anyone this week, we probably wont when away so then you are in the territory of any signings not being up to speed in order to start the season. So a big week ahead. Notice how we still havent even organised a friendly for the week before the season. Quote
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chaddyrovers Posted Sunday at 13:29 Posted Sunday at 13:29 12 minutes ago, TugaysMarlboro said: To be fair, the club said they wanted a centre back and had offered Batth a contract at that time. My assumption was that if Batth didn't renew, we would want a replacement for him as well as another centre back. However the club have now said they aren't going to replace Batth. They still want a centre back signing this summer and we seen players linked who played that position.Β I guess they didn't see Batth being a regular all season and factoring in Wharton who is just back from a serious injuryΒ Quote
chaddyrovers Posted Sunday at 13:29 Posted Sunday at 13:29 2 minutes ago, roversfan99 said: Is it after this week when we fly away for a week to Spain? In which case, assuming we dont sign anyone this week, we probably wont when away so then you are in the territory of any signings not being up to speed in order to start the season. So a big week ahead. Notice how we still havent even organised a friendly for the week before the season. We fly to Spain after this Home friendly against Everton on SaturdayΒ Β Quote
Mercer Posted Sunday at 13:30 Posted Sunday at 13:30 22 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said: But if Brittain does leave then we need to replace him like for like?Β You Montgomery played there and did very well and got high up the pitch with Ribeiro took in making its a 3-4-2-1 when attacking. Montgomery is young and he almost got an assist when he did cross the ball into the box and Stanley player knock it against the bar.Β he was cramp in the same area as his previous injury so took him as precaution and will go for a scan this week when we were playing 3 at the back under JDTΒ A scan for cramp !?!?!? 14 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said: Β his medical has shown some problems so he has gone back to Switzerland now whilst Rovers look further into the medical and the problems behind.Β Probably could re-negotiation the fee we are paying and instead of paying the fee over 2 or 3 payments, make these clauses based on appearances and how he does hereΒ Stress fractures in the foot can be problematical. Normal healing process takes up to 3 months and if they don't heal properly surgery is inevitable sometimes necessitating re-fracturing the bone and you are back to square one!Β Have known footballers be out for 6 to 12 months in some cases. Think this might well be dead in the water now. 3 Quote
toogs Posted Sunday at 13:31 Posted Sunday at 13:31 1 minute ago, chaddyrovers said: They still want a centre back signing this summer and we seen players linked who played that position.Β I guess they didn't see Batth being a regular all season and factoring in Wharton who is just back from a serious injuryΒ I guess we have thickos running the club.Β Quote
Tyrone Shoelaces Posted Sunday at 13:33 Posted Sunday at 13:33 1 minute ago, Mercer said: A scan for cramp !?!?!? Stress fractures in the foot can be problematical. Normal healing process takes up to 3 months and if they don't heal properly surgery is inevitable sometimes necessitating re-fracturing the bone and you are back to square one!Β Have known footballers be out for 6 to 12 months in some cases. Think this might well be dead in the water now. I donβt think it was cramp. It happened right in front of where I was sat and he looked to have pulled/strained something trying to get the ball under control. Quote
sharpysharps86 Posted Sunday at 13:33 Posted Sunday at 13:33 1 minute ago, Mercer said: Stress fractures in the foot can be problematical. Normal healing process takes up to 3 months and if they don't heal properly surgery is inevitable sometimes necessitating re-fracturing the bone and you are back to square one!Β Have known footballers be out for 6 to 12 months in some cases. Think this might well be dead in the water now. Agree. Expect any talk of the deal quietly dissipating over the next few days with Jackson posting a one linear in an article saying Rovers have moved on from it. Better to not pursue it though. We need someone to hit the ground running, not someone who isn't ready and then takes months to bed in. Can't afford to have any passengers in the squad given how the club operate. As we found out after January with Dennis and Kargbo both failing to make an impact. 2 Quote
chaddyrovers Posted Sunday at 13:44 Posted Sunday at 13:44 23 minutes ago, RTM08 said: Batth was let go by Sunderland because they improved their squad to challenge for promotion and actually spend money. We clearly have no interest in promotion based on the last 10 years, nor do we have two pennies to rub together, so we're shopping in a completely different basket. He's still leagues ahead of anything it looks like we'll spend on.Β Doesn't mean he isn't good for our level, just not good enough for teams at the top end with real ambition and financial backing. Sunderland finished 16th in the season when he left. Also Sunderland signed younger players.Β Plus he was on the bench mostly during his year at NorwichΒ Quote
roversfan99 Posted Sunday at 13:44 Posted Sunday at 13:44 17 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said: just like yourself talking about about Rovers not offering Dolan what a good contract offer which you don't know and just made that up.Β I reckon in my opinion that Dolan was offered something like that but didn't accept that.Β You don't know if he had any concreate offers in yet and given he and his agent would have know for months he wasn't re-sign here so would have put the feelers out plus factoring what that club chairman in Turkey about his demands. Given that he is 13 days after he left here and he hasn't sign for anyone would suggest either his demands are too high or other clubs don't rate him as highly as we did. If they did he would have signed for someone, the fact he hasn't and is training alone. If you genuinely think he is mulling over some offers and its taking this long to make a decision then fine but I think you are way off.Β I don't shut you down but just said we were all aware of it and didn't need to be constantly reminded of it by yourselfΒ Β But yet you love to comments on his stories don't you.Β Rovers want to further checks in this injury.Β Β So you think Dolan either has no offers or at least no offers that match the megabucks that we offered? Like I said, maybe I will be proved wrong and he will end up in League 1 on a short term deal. Then your Nyambe comparison will be correct. Quote
chaddyrovers Posted Sunday at 13:46 Posted Sunday at 13:46 11 minutes ago, Tyrone Shoelaces said: I donβt think it was cramp. It happened right in front of where I was sat and he looked to have pulled/strained something trying to get the ball under control. Ismael's comments post game to Rovers TV "Β Hayden came off as a caution. He felt a cramp in the same area where he had an injury from last season. He didnβt know how to process the situation and we didnβt want to take any risks, so weβll assess things with a scan. At the minute, Iβm carefully optimistic with him and weβll wait on the scan Β Quote
Rover84 Posted Sunday at 13:56 Posted Sunday at 13:56 After reading up on stress fractures my mind has changed on this transfer. If itβs a bad one could require multiple surgeryβs. Wonder if we turn back to Ajax lad 3 Quote
chaddyrovers Posted Sunday at 14:01 Posted Sunday at 14:01 1 minute ago, roversfan99 said: So you think Dolan either has no offers or at least no offers that match the megabucks that we offered? Like I said, maybe I will be proved wrong and he will end up in League 1 on a short term deal. Then your Nyambe comparison will be correct. Has he sign for anyone yet? other free agents have signed for other clubs, so why not Dolan? Also what you don't factor in again is that Dolan and his agent would have for months he wasn't signing any new contracts so surely they put the feelers out to other clubs even a pre contract with a club overseas?Β I never said we offered him megabucks but equally you don't know for any degree of certainness that Rovers didn't make a fair contract offer under GB and JDT time here.Β Quote
Hasta Posted Sunday at 14:08 Posted Sunday at 14:08 3 hours ago, M_B said: I think Batth and HyamΒ complemented one another, could be argued if Batth was so good, why did Sunderland let him go.Β Β 3 hours ago, JBiz said: The classic BRFCS approach is theyβre world beaters when they leave, tbfΒ I've skimmed the last few pages so not sure if you two are just being pedantic, but Bath was the best centre back we had last season by some distance.Β 3 Quote
Neal Posted Sunday at 14:09 Posted Sunday at 14:09 7 hours ago, arbitro said: Your first two sentences could be correct but why you have to have a veiled dig about people buying season tickets is a low blow. Christ, I thought folk would have enough about them to know this is a dig at the club for asset stripping us whilst expecting us to part with our money every season. Β Quite a few folk on here are seemingly going soft and a bit touchy as they get older π Quote
Tomphil2 Posted Sunday at 14:11 Posted Sunday at 14:11 What's the best way to flush out potential bidders ? Use your press contacts to 'report' you are about to enter talks of a new extended contract when there's only 12 months or so left on their current deal. Just saying. 3 Quote
Tomphil2 Posted Sunday at 14:17 Posted Sunday at 14:17 (edited) Why are people now trying to rewrite history in regards to Batth and going back several years through his previous recent clubs ? He came here as back up and to add experience which is probably what he was taken to Norwich for also and why he's now at Derby. He performed very well here and that's all that matters Sunderland is completely irrelevant we've had a few done well here who did nothing previously and vise versa and that's football at this level. Edited Sunday at 14:17 by Tomphil2 2 Quote
BankEnd Rover Posted Sunday at 14:20 Posted Sunday at 14:20 (edited) Hiroki Akiyama Is due to leaveΒ Albirex Niigata to go over-seas Labelled as currently one of the best passers in japanese football. He's a defensive midfielder who has just one year left on his contract...Valuation around 800k on transfermarkt...Wonder if we're looking at him as a replacement for Baradji? Edited Sunday at 14:23 by BankEnd Rover Quote
M_B Posted Sunday at 14:23 Posted Sunday at 14:23 9 minutes ago, Hasta said: Β I've skimmed the last few pages so not sure if you two are just being pedantic, but Bath was the best centre back we had last season by some distance.Β I'm not disputing that he was, he was excellent.Β The argument though, is always that Hyam only played well because he was alongside Batth, it's never considered that Hyam could have brought the best out of Batth as well. I don't know how the partnership could have worked so well if they didn't complement each other.Β Quote
Tyrone Shoelaces Posted Sunday at 14:38 Posted Sunday at 14:38 51 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said: Ismael's comments post game to Rovers TV "Β Hayden came off as a caution. He felt a cramp in the same area where he had an injury from last season. He didnβt know how to process the situation and we didnβt want to take any risks, so weβll assess things with a scan. At the minute, Iβm carefully optimistic with him and weβll wait on the scan Β You donβt need a scan to diagnose cramp. Quote
Rover84 Posted Sunday at 14:39 Posted Sunday at 14:39 16 minutes ago, BankEnd Rover said: Hiroki Akiyama Is due to leaveΒ Albirex Niigata to go over-seas Labelled as currently one of the best passers in japanese football. He's a defensive midfielder who has just one year left on his contract...Valuation around 800k on transfermarkt...Wonder if we're looking at him as a replacement for Baradji? A lot of hidden Β gems in that league. Highly regarded by the sounds of it and not expensive. Most reviews about his progressive passing. Something this team is crying out for 1 Quote
Backroom Mike E Posted Sunday at 14:40 Backroom Posted Sunday at 14:40 1 minute ago, Tyrone Shoelaces said: You donβt need a scan to diagnose cramp. But you do need one to rule out re-injury. Quote
Hasta Posted Sunday at 14:45 Posted Sunday at 14:45 (edited) 24 minutes ago, M_B said: I'm not disputing that he was, he was excellent.Β The argument though, is always that Hyam only played well because he was alongside Batth, it's never considered that Hyam could have brought the best out of Batth as well. I don't know how the partnership could have worked so well if they didn't complement each other.Β Ah ok.Β Hyam is good enough. He wouldnβt be easy to replace with our current transfer policy. Β His positioning isnβt always the best ( Burnleyβs goal away last year springs to mind where there was only 1 guy in the box in acres when the cross come in). I felt like his real dodgy spell was under JDT when we were less defensive-minded so he had more space to βdefendβ. Under JE we were a lot tighter so it suited him (and I suspect Batth) more. Edited Sunday at 14:48 by Hasta 3 Quote
chaddyrovers Posted Sunday at 14:53 Posted Sunday at 14:53 33 minutes ago, Tomphil2 said: Why are people now trying to rewrite history in regards to Batth and going back several years through his previous recent clubs ? He came here as back up and to add experience which is probably what he was taken to Norwich for also and why he's now at Derby. He performed very well here and that's all that matters Sunderland is completely irrelevant we've had a few done well here who did nothing previously and vise versa and that's football at this level. Who says he came here as back up player?Β 12 minutes ago, Tyrone Shoelaces said: You donβt need a scan to diagnose cramp. but you want to rule out anything else Quote
sharpysharps86 Posted Sunday at 15:07 Posted Sunday at 15:07 11 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said: Who says he came here as back up player?Β I think there was a general expectancy, wasn't there? Last summer I'm pretty sure we were all definitely anticipating Hyam and Carter being first choice paring, which is how the season started as well with Batth initially making sub appearances and started in the League Cup games. It was quite clear Batth came to be backup because that Hyam / Carter partnership was already well established. Batth ended up being more of a key player than I think any of us thought he would, and that's great. Its a real shame we couldn't keep him for another year and ease the need for signing another CB. 4 Quote
Hasta Posted Sunday at 15:08 Posted Sunday at 15:08 10 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said: Who says he came here as back up player?Β Carter & Hyam started the season. Batth was on the bench. Brittain got injured so Carter went to right back. Batth played. Brittain got fit. Hyam & Carter started, Batth was on the bench. He was clearly 3rd choice for the first couple of months. 1 Quote
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