2025 Summer Transfer Thread. 😂

[Tomphil2]

2 hours ago, Forever Blue said:

I’m great knowing you’re incapable of a coherent argument. 

He always does a bit of PR work for the club in summer don't sweat it.

[chaddyrovers]

5 hours ago, roversfan99 said:

Why havent any of the wingers we have signed in a number of years done that?

Speculation about what he has on his agents desk aside, hes a decent Championship winger, as a starter. If he ends up on a 1 year deal in League 1 then these assumptions and comparisons to Nyambe will be true.

He left here because like with many others, he clearly wasnt offered a fair deal reflective of his level.

There is lack of proper wingers out like Ripley and Wilcox or Gillespie and Duff or Bentley and Pedersen in modern day football has mainly gone now 

3 hours ago, WacoRover said:

The last great Championship winger on the club, Craig Conway. Not even close.

Conway led the EFL in assists, in consecutive seasons. Still one of my favorite Rovers.  

very good winger. He is one of favourite Rovers players. 

25 minutes ago, davulsukur said:

Great signing, for Derby

Typical Eustace, signing former players that have played for him previously, who next Dembele and Baker? 😂

[M_B]

3 hours ago, Dreams of 1995 said:

This list is a bit wild

Khadra was better than Dolan but unfortunately he’s gone the Dack route. Two ACLs

Kargbo we have barely seen.

 Giles is a full back and Denis is a centre forward

You did well to try and pad it out but the only person who belongs on the list is Sigurdson. For all intents and purposes he looked better than Dolan - could certainly finish better - but for whatever reason didn’t cut the mustard in other ways. Maybe fitness.

But what a low bar set. It will be interesting to see how Dolan does. I am in the camp of this will be his peak. If he moves above us and sustains it I would be surprised. He may get a decent move here on a free but his overall game is too poor for the top leagues, and he isn’t good enough for a top table championship club either. Derby seems the obvious choice. 

If you're offering me Dolan or Sigurdson for next season, it's Dolan every time. 

[Roverthechimp]

4 minutes ago, Tom said:

Did we see it as a sign of intent from our owners when we signed Batth and Beck or does it only count when someone else does?

Said it before but in Weimann, Batth, Beck and links to Sanderson and Dolan I’d be slightly concerned the manager is playing it safe with what he knows 

Think Derby would settle for a top 10 with no relegation drama this season. Players he is signing had us top 6-8 despite the off-field turbulens.

Derby won”t be concerned unless he is throwing 5 year deals at them on silly wages…

[chaddyrovers]

 

14 minutes ago, Tyrone Shoelaces said:

Name me a better one in the last 20 years. I’m getting a bit lost in time there but only Stephen Warnock comes to mind to me.

Stephen Warnock

 

[chaddyrovers]

6 hours ago, Wing Wizard Windy Miller said:

Yes I read that but he still hasn't signed a pro deal.  Just saying he should be given an ultimatum to sign or we basically develop him for someone else. 

Tyjon and his parents probably want to make sure he gets the game time Ismael has said before he commits to new contracts

[Mercer]

12 minutes ago, Emerald Isle Rover said:

Yea real purpose they are showing signing two mid 30 year olds and loaning a left back

3 players not likely to be there next season

paid significant money for a striker who is very unproven and not that I buy into ‘fan’ takes there’s a lot of Americans laughing at the signing 

if this was us last year you would be on here skating all of the above 

show more balance 

Well if Derby finish top 6 and even get promoted, I would suggest Batth and Beck will have been seen as very shrewd signings.  I doubt you are old enough to know but in the late 1960's, Brian Clough signed a 34 year old Dave Mackay from Spurs and that season they got promoted to the 1st Division (now PL) and within 3/4 years won the 1st Division title and Mackay was a huge factor in those achievements. 

I think Carlton Morris (signed from Luton) will prove more prolific than any Rovers' front man whilst Pochettino has waxed lyrical about Agyemang who has burst on to the international scene with 5 goals in 12 games.

I think Derby will finish in top 6, far higher than Rovers, with their two new strikers being far more potent than ours.

Bear in mind that when Eustace left both Brum and Rovers they were in the top 6!!!!

[Dreams of 1995]

3 hours ago, roversfan99 said:

The point is that we have over a considerable period of time failed to recruit successfully to fill the wide positions. So I dont think it will be this easy task that Paul Mani suggested. Dolan is a loss.

If Dolan goes above us, he may well come up short. Better players than him have, Brereton, Armstrong etc. But it doesnt mean that their move was the wrong one. They were right to try and better themselves, they experienced football at a higher level, and in a worst case scenario, you fall back down to the same level you were at (with more money in your pocket) having experienced somethig better than just an indefinite stay at a club with no ambition of pushing on and not paying players to a competitive level.

Replacing Dolan will be one of the easier tasks we have faced

He still sits as that free agent. Is he demanding that much in wages? JE is signing anyone who is available who wore a Rovers shirt last year. Dolan though, despite his deep and meaningful connection….still nothing

The signs are there that Dolan isn’t fancied much. I don’t blame them. He’s had his purple patch….and it was more mauve than it was purple 

[simongarnerisgod]

13 minutes ago, Tyrone Shoelaces said:

Name me a better one in the last 20 years. I’m getting a bit lost in time there but only Stephen Warnock comes to mind to me.

micky gray was pretty good then maybe alan wright or martin olsson,becks a great player and can become as good as the formers if he stays injury free

[Emerald Isle Rover]

18 minutes ago, Tyrone Shoelaces said:

Name me a better one in the last 20 years. I’m getting a bit lost in time there but only Stephen Warnock comes to mind to me.

Derrick Williams was better and then converted to left sided centre back. Not sure how a player who played less than 25 games can be called the clubs greatest left back in decades very bizarre take 

Being fit is just as important as other attributes 

beck has the potential to go on and be very very good but your statement is a massive overreach 

[Dreams of 1995]

Just now, Emerald Isle Rover said:

Derrick Williams was better and then converted to left sided centre back. Not sure how a player who played less than 25 games can be called the clubs greatest left back in decades very bizarre take 

Being fit is just as important as other attributes 

beck has the potential to go on and be very very good but your statement is a massive overreach 

Blimey mate

Is there a bit of patriotism going on? I assume Emerald Isle is a homage to Ireland. It can be the only reason you’re saying Williams was better than Beck!

Owen Beck wouldn’t have left the side if he stayed fit. He is the best left back we’ve had since this rotten lot came. Before that the fan base was accepting Pickering as “solid” enough. How our expectations fell. When Beck came, he showed us what a proper full back can do. 

[Emerald Isle Rover]

4 minutes ago, Mercer said:

Well if Derby finish top 6 and even get promoted, I would suggest Batth and Beck will have been seen as very shrewd signings.  I doubt you are old enough to know but in the late 1960's, Brian Clough signed a 34 year old Dave Mackay from Spurs and that season they got promoted to the 1st Division (now PL) and within 3/4 years won the 1st Division title and Mackay was a huge factor in those achievements. 

I think Carlton Morris (signed from Luton) will prove more prolific than any Rovers' front man whilst Pochettino has waxed lyrical about Agyemang who has burst on to the international scene with 5 goals in 12 games.

I think Derby will finish in top 6, far higher than Rovers, with their two new strikers being far more potent than ours.

Bear in mind that when Eustace left both Brum and Rovers they were in the top 6!!!!

So explain this then please 

[Tomphil2]

Derek was an absolute mid table Championship plodder on his very best day whereas Beck has future Prem player stamped all over him.

[Emerald Isle Rover]

Just now, Dreams of 1995 said:

Blimey mate

Is there a bit of patriotism going on? I assume Emerald Isle is a homage to Ireland. It can be the only reason you’re saying Williams was better than Beck!

Owen Beck wouldn’t have left the side if he stayed fit. He is the best left back we’ve had since this rotten lot came. Before that the fan base was accepting Pickering as “solid” enough. How our expectations fell. When Beck came, he showed us what a proper full back can do. 

Nothing to do with me being Irish I think beck can and will go on to be a very good player but the best left back we have had in decades or the last 15 years as you put it is mental 24 games

if we are judging players on 24 games then I give up

[Emerald Isle Rover]

Just now, Tomphil2 said:

Derek was an absolute mid table Championship plodder on his very best day whereas Beck has future Prem player stamped all over him.

‘Future’ what’s he achieved as of now 

mid table Scottish league a half good season at rovers and now a move to a team who just stayed in the championship 

he’s not maldini 

and Ribeiro is an equal at worst 

[simongarnerisgod]

5 minutes ago, Emerald Isle Rover said:

Derrick Williams was better and then converted to left sided centre back. Not sure how a player who played less than 25 games can be called the clubs greatest left back in decades very bizarre take 

Being fit is just as important as other attributes 

beck has the potential to go on and be very very good but your statement is a massive overreach 

lol,derrick was clumsy oaf,who could`nt run,he was a terrible left back and not much better at centre half,i remember stockley from pne giving him an absolute nightmare because he could`nt get up for headers

[Tyrone Shoelaces]

12 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

 

Stephen Warnock

 

He’s the only one I can think of.

[Wing Wizard Windy Miller]

10 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

Tyjon and his parents probably want to make sure he gets the game time Ismael has said before he commits to new contracts

That's the problem. If we give him the game time first, he night not sign.  Club need to dictate the terms.  He's a decent prospect, not the next Messi.  No need to bend over backwards. 

[Tomphil2]

1 minute ago, Emerald Isle Rover said:

‘Future’ what’s he achieved as of now 

mid table Scottish league a half good season at rovers and now a move to a team who just stayed in the championship 

he’s not maldini 

and Ribeiro is an equal at worst 

Probably because he's still just a kid.

I remember seeing Conner Bradley in a pre season for Bolton at Chorley and it was obvious he had something, look at him now after earning his stripes at lower level.

I expect Beck to follow a similar path.

[Tyrone Shoelaces]

6 minutes ago, Emerald Isle Rover said:

Nothing to do with me being Irish I think beck can and will go on to be a very good player but the best left back we have had in decades or the last 15 years as you put it is mental 24 games

if we are judging players on 24 games then I give up

We’ll see. As for Derrick Williams, we’d have been better off with Charlie Williams.

[chaddyrovers]

5 hours ago, roversfan99 said:

Ah yes, the usual. Take my words totally out of context and resort to calling me negative in the absence of anything constructive.

You repeatedly conclude based on your own warped reading of what I am saying that we should never play him, bin him off and never bring through graduates. 

same old repeating comments cos I don't agree with you about actually giving our talent young players proper game time

5 hours ago, roversfan99 said:

Firstly, sort out his contract situation. Not interested in conversations or spiel about pathways and projects. Is he willing to sign a proper contract or not? If he is, then we can accelerate his progression into the first team. If not, then strongly consider a sale because its no good us giving him game time just to inflate any tribunal fee.

Assuming he does sign. We dont know especially physically if he is ready to potentially play regular Championship football. As it stands, one injury to Cantwell and he would have to. He regularly struggled to stay fit for the under 21s. It would be putting him under unfair pressure and we dont know if he could cope with it. So sign another player.

Still there would be plenty of scope for game time. If we are playing high pressing football, and with modern day sub rules, we will be getting minutes into 7 or 8 attacking players per game. He would be one of potentially 10, very rare they would all be fit. It would also allow us to play him when we feel appropriate rather than out of necessity. He could play cup games, he could be integrated slowly initially but if he really looks the part at senior level, and we dont know, then he can play lots more.

So sort his contract, then drip feed him in without undue pressure whenever we feel best, keeping him around the first team all season.

firstly, Tyjon won't commit until he knew whether he will get the game time Ismael has said, 

Secondly, Rovers also have to commit to Tyjon by given him proper game time, not just the odd minute here and there. 

thirdly, You don't know if he is physically but the only way you will know is by actual playing him. 

 

5 hours ago, roversfan99 said:

Can you please tell me what is so negative about that plan?

You comments about whether he can cope with pressure or whether he is physically read. The only way you will know is by playing him, developing him. Far too cautious with everything. Good job you were in charge otherwise Raya, Buckley and Wharton would have never develop and played as much ever. You keep saying you aren't again develop young players Well your comments suggest another thing 

[Tyrone Shoelaces]

8 minutes ago, Emerald Isle Rover said:

Nothing to do with me being Irish I think beck can and will go on to be a very good player but the best left back we have had in decades or the last 15 years as you put it is mental 24 games

if we are judging players on 24 games then I give up

How many games did Adam Wharton have to play before we all knew he was destined for the top ?

Edited 4 hours ago by Tyrone Shoelaces

[Emerald Isle Rover]

So to be clear here 

Just now, Tomphil2 said:

Probably because he's still just a kid.

I remember seeing Conner Bradley in a pre season for Bolton at Chorley and it was obvious he had something, look at him now after earning his stripes at lower level.

I expect Beck to follow a similar path.

Conor Bradley broke into Liverpool senior team at the age of 20 had one loan before hand

beck is 23 next month this will be his 4th loan 

Not sure that’s the same path

[Emerald Isle Rover]

Just now, Tyrone Shoelaces said:

How many games did Adam Wharton have to play before we all knew he was destined for the top ?

There’s a difference between generational talents and good players 

are you saying beck is going to be one of the best left backs in England and sought after by many of Europe’s finest?

[Tomphil2]

3 minutes ago, Wing Wizard Windy Miller said:

That's the problem. If we give him the game time first, he night not sign.  Club need to dictate the terms.  He's a decent prospect, not the next Messi.  No need to bend over backwards. 

If he isn't going to agree to sign and earn his corn here then get rid.

Giving a kid mins for the sake of it just so he can impress potential suitors to snap him up for a bargain not only might hamper the team if he doesn't hit the standard it also isn't fair on lads who are here for the long run.

Can't have unproven kids with a bit of potential dictating the terms at first team level i'm sick of the entitlement of these types.