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Posted
5 minutes ago, MarkBRFC said:

Is this definitely correct?

I was under the impression that anyone 21 and over had to be registered, which would include Leonard and Montgomery.

Not sure on the fine details - possibly or maybe it's like the under 21 euros where you can play up to the age of 23 if born within a cut off dateπŸ€·πŸ»β€β™‚οΈ

Posted (edited)
5 minutes ago, Wing Wizard Windy Miller said:

Not sure on the fine details - possibly or maybe it's like the under 21 euros where you can play up to the age of 23 if born within a cut off dateπŸ€·πŸ»β€β™‚οΈ

Definitely has to be under 21. Doesn’t matter if it’s a loan or academy product. So we could loan players u21 and still have them in the 25 man squad if we have reached that limit

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Posted
5 minutes ago, ObiWhan8t7 said:

Definitely has to be under 21. Doesn’t matter if it’s a loan or academy product. So we could loan players u21 and still have them in the 25 man squad if we have reached that limit

This part is definitely incorrect, all loans whether they are over or under 21 have to be registered.

Still pretty certain that Leonard and Montgomery would need registering this coming season.

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33 minutes ago, Wing Wizard Windy Miller said:

Not sure on the fine details - possibly or maybe it's like the under 21 euros where you can play up to the age of 23 if born within a cut off dateπŸ€·πŸ»β€β™‚οΈ

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28 minutes ago, ObiWhan8t7 said:

Definitely has to be under 21. Doesn’t matter if it’s a loan or academy product. So we could loan players u21 and still have them in the 25 man squad if we have reached that limit

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21 minutes ago, MarkBRFC said:

This part is definitely incorrect, all loans whether they are over or under 21 have to be registered.

Still pretty certain that Leonard and Montgomery would need registering this coming season.

According to the EFL handbook (page 244 if you wish to check, this is last years book, I can't find this years but I assume this rule stays the same)

"Under 21 Player’ means a Player under the age of 21 as at the 1 January in the year inΒ which the Season concerned commences".

This would mean that Harry Leonard and George Pratt are not U21 players, as they turned 21 before Jan 1st 2025, and Kristi Montgomery and Felix Goddard are U21 players as they turned 21 after Jan 1st 2025

Under 21 Players do not need to be registered

Also, loan players, no matter what age they are, need to be registered in a Championship 25 man squad, but not if they are an U21 loan player in a League 1 or 2 squad for some reason

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Posted
1 minute ago, KentExile said:

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According to the EFL handbook (page 244 if you wish to check, this is last years book, I can't find this years but I assume this rule stays the same)

"Under 21 Player’ means a Player under the age of 21 as at the 1 January in the year inΒ which the Season concerned commences"

Under 21 Players do not need to be registered

Also, loan players, no matter what age they are, need to be registered in the 25 man squad

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God knows what I read then. Thanks for the info

Posted
6 minutes ago, RoversTilliDie said:

Eustace has signed yet another x rovers player, Owen Beck on loan. They will have us well sussed out when we play them next season.

Isn't it more likely that we will have them "well sussed" ?

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Posted

Charlton are spending a few million on Kelman who was top scorer in League 1 last season.

It does add some perspective when all 3 promoted sides are in different leagues to us financially. Our expectations are so low that a few signings for low fees having seen so much come in and we dont expect it, it leads to some of our fans gloating about it.

Still think Charlton will be near the bottom and their signings are very limited to domestic players but in Kelman and Apter they seem to be targetting top league 1 players who are young to mainly invest it. The other 2 should be well away from the bottom and Birmingham will be looking towards the play offs.

Posted
28 minutes ago, KentExile said:

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According to the EFL handbook (page 244 if you wish to check, this is last years book, I can't find this years but I assume this rule stays the same)

"Under 21 Player’ means a Player under the age of 21 as at the 1 January in the year inΒ which the Season concerned commences".

This would mean that Harry Leonard and George Pratt are not U21 players, as they turned 21 before Jan 1st 2025, and Kristi Montgomery and Felix Goddard are U21 players as they turned 21 after Jan 1st 2025

Under 21 Players do not need to be registered

Also, loan players, no matter what age they are, need to be registered in a Championship 25 man squad, but not if they are an U21 loan player in a League 1 or 2 squad for some reason

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Here’s the 25/26 regulations.

https://images.gc.eflservices.co.uk/6a32d710-5b0b-11f0-ad0f-97502a343283.pdf

Β Nothing you’ve quoted from 24/25 has changed.

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Posted
8 minutes ago, roversfan99 said:

Charlton are spending a few million on Kelman who was top scorer in League 1 last season.

It does add some perspective when all 3 promoted sides are in different leagues to us financially. Our expectations are so low that a few signings for low fees having seen so much come in and we dont expect it, it leads to some of our fans gloating about it.

Still think Charlton will be near the bottom and their signings are very limited to domestic players but in Kelman and Apter they seem to be targetting top league 1 players who are young to mainly invest it. The other 2 should be well away from the bottom and Birmingham will be looking towards the play offs.

Can't say I've read anyone "gloating".Β 

Posted
40 minutes ago, KentExile said:

maybe the rules for League 1 or 2? which don't include U21 loan players as part of the 25

β€˜keepers are excluded from the League 1 and 2 lists too.

What’s that all about??Β 

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Posted

I'll throw my opinion in.

We need more than 3. We've seen it time and time again that 2, sometimes 3 games a week ravages a squad.Β 

We need (but most likely don't get) a starting RW, a good CM who can step in to either Tronstad or Travis' role, another CB, a CAM to take the pressure off of Cantwell and a striker so we can loan out Leonard. That's a minimum as far as I'm concerned.

I like the look of Tyjon but to rely on his as second choice CAM over a season is folly taking into account his inexperienced and injury record, in my opinion.

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Posted
3 hours ago, philipl said:

But Michalski, Montgomery, Tyjon and Leonard are home grown youngsters so don't count towards the 25.

Add Buckley

Back to transfers, any truth that Brittain left Spain a day ahead of the other players?

why add Buckley?Β 

Leonard does have to be named as per the rules I believe

Brittain played the game and Rovers flew back this afternoonΒ 

3 hours ago, Wing Wizard Windy Miller said:

Leonard/Tyjon/Michalski/Montgomery wouldn't need to be registered as part of the squad as they are 21 or under.Β  They would also have been available to supplement the 25 man squad we had last year.Β Β 

Lets put it this way.Β  We are well down in over 21 players at the moment.Β 

Leonard does I believe plus add 3 more signings and we have big squadΒ 

Posted
3 hours ago, roversfan99 said:

Another 3 would "feel right" to you because thats how many we seemingly plan to get.

I never said that the budget definitely wont stretch. What I am saying is that is isnt an unlimited pot of money, maybe the striker plan has been shelved because there isnt enough resources to fill all positions adequately so we are having to prioritise.

He doesnt "clearly" feel its enough. We dont know what he feels truly. There could be a number of reasons why we may not get a striker. Or indeed, maybe a striker will be within the 3 we plan to get.

You keep throwing in names like Leonard who is not with the first team and is never fit and a young 3rd choice goalkeeper to increase the numbers.

I personally think we need more than 3, I think 4 or 5. I fear that we may again have issues with squad depth as the season goes on. I also think that based on what was said before the window, that we arent going to get everything that we planned to. That could be for a number of reasons, I am merely speculating, it doesnt automatically mean that the manager will be 100% totally satisfied by what happens in this window. I suspect very few managers are when the window closes as they would have liked one or two more but resources etc wont allow or deals dont happen for whatever reason.

I have done a squad plan for the messageboard and we have 2 players for every position apart from the right side attacking position. we have an extra centre midfielder. add 3 more players and we have 26/27 players, how many more do you want? how is going to problem with squad depth?Β 

No club has unlimited pot of money but we have spent money this window on 4 players.Β 

We don't know whether the striker has been shelved at all and you time after time suggested things with no evidence of this being the case in fact.Β 

Ismael said 6 or 7 signings at the end of season and that's what we are on course for. Maybe he knew that Batth and Weimann wasn't renewing here before he made that comment

I mentioned Leonard cos I think he will be 3rd striker if we aren't to sign another striker wouldn't surprised myself.Β 

on Michalski, he is good prospect and he looked good against Stanley and Everton. So what is wrong with him being 3rd choice? Also who is going to be 3rd choice if not Michalski? Also I would have no problem starting Michalski if Toth and Pears were both injured. You say you aren't against bringing through young players but every time a young player is mentioned to be part of the first team squad, you always find an excuse to not bring them through,

Ismael is a straight talking and look at how honest he was about the Brittain's situation. very honest about it.Β 

Posted
10 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

I have done a squad plan for the messageboard and we have 2 players for every position apart from the right side attacking position. we have an extra centre midfielder. add 3 more players and we have 26/27 players, how many more do you want? how is going to problem with squad depth?Β 

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One of your CMs is Foreshaw, the other we haven't seen play yet.

Your sole RW is Ryan Hedges.

One of your CAMs is a 17 tear old with a few minutes of senior football played.

2 others in your squad list are new signings with no experience of playing in the Championship.

You're conflating footballers who play for Blackburn Rovers with viable squad options.

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Posted

Palulu looks a good player, similar style to the Beradji lad we were close to signing, though a different position.

Like others have said, seems a level above us at least though he does only have a year left on so contract. Interesting read on his international career where he was called up by Angola but withdrew for health reasons, then switched alliance to DR Congo, got a call up and withdrew due to injury. Apparently cleared his insta account of all things Jagiellona suggesting a move is imminent or he's upset with them

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Posted
17 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

No club has unlimited pot of money but we have spent money this window on 4 players.Β 

I don't think Rovers have spent any money this window.

Sale of Schaper and JRC would bring in about Β£1.75m.

Fees for Alebiosu, De Neve, McLaughlin and Tavares would be no more than Β£1.75m up front plus fairytale 'add ons' for when we win the PL etc

With Brittain heading to rejoin Eustace's Rovers renunion party at Derby for Β£2.5/3m, we are quids in.

If you believe the fantasy figures quoted for our signings then I'd look out in your garden tonight for the fairies!

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Palulu looks a good player, similar style to the Beradji lad we were close to signing, though a different position.

Like others have said, seems a level above us at least though he does only have a year left on so contract. Interesting read on his international career where he was called up by Angola but withdrew for health reasons, then switched alliance to DR Congo, got a call up and withdrew due to injury. Apparently cleared his insta account of all things Jagiellona suggesting a move is imminent or he's upset with them

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Posted
7 minutes ago, Mercer said:

With Brittain heading to rejoin Eustace's Rovers renunion party at Derby for Β£2.5/3m, we are quids in.

Brittain ain't going to Derby. He played for us yesterday, flew back with Rovers players and management.Β 

So stop with this BS Mercer it's boring and why I ignored your posts nowadays sadly

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Posted
Just now, chaddyrovers said:

Brittain ain't going to Derby. He played for us yesterday, flew back with Rovers players and management.Β 

So stop with this BS Mercer it's boring and why I ignored your posts nowadays sadly

Yes Brittain certainly played for us yesterday but I haven't seen any confirmation he flew back with the main party today that would negate the rumours flying around that he came back on an earlier flight.

I think it's certain Brittain will leave and if he has a choice, I think it will be Derby over Middlesbrough.Β Β 

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Posted
30 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

I have done a squad plan for the messageboard and we have 2 players for every position apart from the right side attacking position. we have an extra centre midfielder. add 3 more players and we have 26/27 players, how many more do you want? how is going to problem with squad depth?Β 

No club has unlimited pot of money but we have spent money this window on 4 players.Β 

We don't know whether the striker has been shelved at all and you time after time suggested things with no evidence of this being the case in fact.Β 

Ismael said 6 or 7 signings at the end of season and that's what we are on course for. Maybe he knew that Batth and Weimann wasn't renewing here before he made that comment

I mentioned Leonard cos I think he will be 3rd striker if we aren't to sign another striker wouldn't surprised myself.Β 

on Michalski, he is good prospect and he looked good against Stanley and Everton. So what is wrong with him being 3rd choice? Also who is going to be 3rd choice if not Michalski? Also I would have no problem starting Michalski if Toth and Pears were both injured. You say you aren't against bringing through young players but every time a young player is mentioned to be part of the first team squad, you always find an excuse to not bring them through,

Ismael is a straight talking and look at how honest he was about the Brittain's situation. very honest about it.Β 

@London blueΒ has summed it up well. You just add names and then say we have x number of players and dont judge on quality.

You have always done it. In the past adding the likes of Markanday, Telalovic, Garrett and always a few random young players to bloat it out.

If you genuinely believed in your list then surely we only need a right winger, why do we even need 3?

You also say that every single manager is honest and straight talking. You can't fathom that any manager might not get what he wants. Its not even specific to Rovers, im sure very few managers end transfer windows 100% totally satisfied.

Im employing some critical thinking. They said 6 or 7 before Weimann and Batth left. In fact, Gestede said right wing because "ACD is leaving and we only have Dolan in that position" so you can add him too. Also, the requirement for a centre back also is an additional one because Carter has got injured again. So in my opinion, if we only get 2 or 3 more, we have not signed enough players to build up the squad as big as what was initially planned. You cant fathom that. No way could that happen in your head, it must be going exactly as planned.

My comments about not signing a striker were in reference to comments about Ismael deciding that Ohashi and Gueye will suffice up front. Gestede said that we did want some more competition there so IF we dont sign a striker, then it doesnt suggest alignment or something has changed. Maybe a striker is within the 2 or 3.

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Posted (edited)
1 hour ago, chaddyrovers said:

Brittain ain't going to Derby. He played for us yesterday, flew back with Rovers players and management.Β 

So stop with this BS Mercer it's boring and why I ignored your posts nowadays sadly

I'd be really surprised if Brittain was still here by the end of the window.Β 

Bit of posturing going on at the moment re price but I think we know what'll happen, he'll go late on in the window and as likely as not we won't get a replacement.

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