RoversClitheroe Posted Sunday at 06:06 Posted Sunday at 06:06 8 hours ago, BankEnd Rover said: Rovers clitheroe the perfect example of someone who didn't watch the game. Alebiosu dint put a foot wrong.ย I did watch the game. Thought all of Gestedes boys looked rubbish tbh. I think we are in a lot of troubleย 3 Quote
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Emerald Isle Rover Posted Sunday at 06:31 Posted Sunday at 06:31 23 minutes ago, RoversClitheroe said: I did watch the game. Thought all of Gestedes boys looked rubbish tbh. I think we are in a lot of troubleย If you thought McLaughlin was rubbish then football isnโt for you. I get you donโt like how things are run and we are all frustrated and of course everybody is entitled to an opinion. However anyone coming away from that game and their take is McLaughlin looked rubbish is just simply wrong 5 1 Quote
Bohinen1983 Posted Sunday at 06:38 Posted Sunday at 06:38 McLaughlin, I thought was excellent, great feet, composed, looks a bargain-ย the rest of the new lads were a bit non-descript to be honest. Did Tavares even touch the ball when he came on? 6 Quote
Emerald Isle Rover Posted Sunday at 06:51 Posted Sunday at 06:51 Iโm far from happy with how we are doing things and how things are being run behind the scenes but itโs pretty obvious with the turnaround those players are going to need time. i just find it laughable any football fan watching that game yesterday came to the conclusion that McLaughlin was rubbish what it does highlight for me is what a lot have been saying and asking for - experience he was miles better than the new signings and even most of the players we already had. Itโs not a coincidence either experience is worth its weight in gold in this division unfortunately itโs not the model we are after even though itโs obviousย 1 1 Quote
Exiled_Rover Posted Sunday at 06:57 Posted Sunday at 06:57 8 hours ago, RoversClitheroe said: De Neve is shite. No wonder Valerian is raging. New signing and taking him off at half time. He took him off at half time because he was injured. 1 Quote
Armchair supporter supremo Posted Sunday at 07:05 Posted Sunday at 07:05 Thought it was a bit naive of the manager to start so many new in experienced(in the championship) players tbh, ok fair enough he didn't have many options but still... Most managers would have introduced the newbies gradually in the 2nd half to get them a bit of game time 1 Quote
Emerald Isle Rover Posted Sunday at 07:07 Posted Sunday at 07:07 Just now, Armchair supporter supremo said: Thought it was a bit naive of the manager to start so many new in experienced(in the championship) players tbh, ok fair enough he didn't have many options but still... Most managers would have introduced the newbies gradually in the 2nd half to get them a bit of game time Agreed especially henriksson, I know his season is under way and has fitness under his belt but this is a different league should have came off the bench. Ohashi should have been the 10 with Gueye up top 1 Quote
Wing Wizard Windy Miller Posted Sunday at 07:11 Posted Sunday at 07:11 From the players with tenuous links, 2 players stand out as really improving our first 11.ย Both from the Polish league, 27 and 26 so both well experienced.ย Steve Kapaudi Afimico Pululu. These are the type of players your ESC slots should be used for.ย ย ย 1 Quote
G Somerset Rover Posted Sunday at 07:16 Posted Sunday at 07:16 37 minutes ago, Bohinen1983 said: McLaughlin, I thought was excellent, great feet, composed, looks a bargain-ย the rest of the new lads were a bit non-descript to be honest. Did Tavares even touch the ball when he came on? We better hope he comes good as heโs no doubt already been brought in as Travโs replacement. Quote
Emerald Isle Rover Posted Sunday at 07:19 Posted Sunday at 07:19 3 minutes ago, G Somerset Rover said: We better hope he comes good as heโs no doubt already been brought in as Travโs replacement. Baradji is Travis replacementย Quote
Lancaster Rover Posted Sunday at 07:31 Posted Sunday at 07:31 11 minutes ago, Emerald Isle Rover said: Baradji is Travis replacementย Who we canโt sign until we offload/pay up Mafoumbi Quote
Emerald Isle Rover Posted Sunday at 07:33 Posted Sunday at 07:33 1 minute ago, Lancaster Rover said: Who we canโt sign until we offload/pay up Mafoumbi Wasnโt given a squad number so Iโd say itโs very likely he is off one way or anotherย 1 Quote
KentExile Posted Sunday at 07:36 Posted Sunday at 07:36 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Lancaster Rover said: Who we canโt sign until we offload/pay up Mafoumbi ย 4 minutes ago, Emerald Isle Rover said: Wasnโt given a squad number so Iโd say itโs very likely he is off one way or anotherย ย Apparently Baradji & Mafoumbi have the same agent, so it should be easy enough a deal to do , some money owed could be slid over from one to the other, especially if Baradji is as desperate to come as has been written Edited Sunday at 07:38 by KentExile 1 Quote
Waggy76 Posted Sunday at 07:37 Posted Sunday at 07:37 (edited) 1 hour ago, RoversClitheroe said: I did watch the game. Thought all of Gestedes boys looked rubbish tbh. I think we are in a lot of troubleย The last 2 relegations ,ย many fans predicted it before the season started , this one is no different , the squad of players assembled (if that is the word) is up with one of the worst I have seen in 56 years. Steve Kean , Owen Coyle and IVย All under the watch of our fantastic owners , I feel sorry for IV he has been dealt a bad hand but I think he is a poor manager ! The other 2 were beneath contempt ! Venkys Out ! Edited Sunday at 07:44 by Waggy76 3 Quote
Tomphil2 Posted Sunday at 07:48 Posted Sunday at 07:48 Thought the defence did well and Toth kept us in the game i don't think it's wrong to say if Pears was in there we are beaten soundly. Angry at the silly passing it around under pressure at the back rearing its ugly head again That will cost a needless goal soon enough, cut it out it doesn't make great footballers out of average ones it just causes steady ones to dither.. Football wise and attacking wise i thought we were crap the pressing was pedestrian and passing/shape disjointed for most of it. At least Kargbo has a go and provides an outlet i think if we started him yesterday he puts WBA on the backfoot from the off whereas instead they took early control. In the end couldn't have moaned at a draw if we pinched it but overall probably a fair result and i think this new look side is going to take a while to find its feet. You can feel the undercurrent of concern in the fans who were rather subdued imo given the number there and the lid will come off guaranteed up we don't get a few wins under our belts. 5 Quote
RoversClitheroe Posted Sunday at 07:48 Posted Sunday at 07:48 11 minutes ago, Waggy76 said: All under the watch of our fantastic owners , I feel sorry for IV he has been dealt a bad hand but I think he is a poor manager ! Agreed. Don't think he's a good manager at all. Quote
chaddyrovers Posted Sunday at 07:48 Posted Sunday at 07:48 50 minutes ago, Exiled_Rover said: He took him off at half time because he was injured. Exactly. It's was nasty cut to the head 31 minutes ago, G Somerset Rover said: We better hope he comes good as heโs no doubt already been brought in as Travโs replacement. Baradji is Travis replacementย Quote
Lancaster Rover Posted Sunday at 07:52 Posted Sunday at 07:52 Wasnโt aware of the shared agent, mafoumbi goes down as another strange signing. The last few seasons Iโve been quietly optimistic as although the ownership and cabalโs a shambles weโve retained a lot of solid players and had good (not without faults) managers. I personally donโt see VI in the same bracket as JDT and Eustace in terms of quality, throw in to that the loss of quality and experience and the accumulation of relatively unknown players from leagues with a lower standing than the championship and this season is starting to have the feel of the Coyle disaster. This accumulation of unknown players at the behest of the ex player/special advisor makes me very uncomfortable in termS of relationships, etc 7 Quote
Tomphil2 Posted Sunday at 08:02 Posted Sunday at 08:02 9 hours ago, JCRovers said: Feels like our 'squad building' has been more about putting out fires than trying to strengthen areas that needs improvement: - Batth went so we signed McLoughlin (even if the club won't admit it) - JRC got sold and we brought in Alebiosu (perhaps a slight improvement and I guess it was part of the transfer plan as well) - Brittain got sold and we brought in Miller (pretty damn obvious this was a contingency plan they had in place which got immediately triggered once the bid for Brittain was accepted; a downgrade from the perspective of offensive contributions) - Weimann left so we signed Henriksson (time will tell if this is an upgrade or not) - Signed De Neve to provide competion at left wing position with Kargbo (worried that this is a "Hedges-type" signing who works hard and tracks back but lacks an end product; cheap signing but not an upgrade for the team) - Signed Tavares to provide competition for central midfield spots (probably the only real upgrade to the side once he gets match fit since I suspect he will be a replacement for Buckley) Here's what I think the squad planning has gone wrong though: - We had more than 30 days to sign a replacement for Dolan on the right wing before the opening game but failed to do so, leaving Hedges as the only option. - We have failed to sign a proper striker to compete with Gueye - We have failed to realise that Ohashi can't operate as a lone striker as he's a) not quick enough and b) doesn't have the physicality to compete with Championship defenders - Had we signed a proper striker, it would have made sense to move Ohashi to an attacking midfield role instead and compete with Cantwell We are short of options up front and on the right hand side which must be resolved before window closes. Getting a striker in now will not be easy; we might have to consider loaning in someone from a PL side.ย - William Osula (Newcastle): quite pacey, 6'3 striker who had limited gametime last season. Bought for big money from Sheffield Utd. a couple of seasons ago. Needs a loan to develop. Newcastle will likely not sanction a move before they have gotten replacements in for Wilson and (probably) Isak. - Chido Obi (Man Utd); probably needs a loan move now that they signed Sesko. - Grady Diangana (free); released by WBA, decent right winger and probably an upgrade on Dolan in terms of goals/assists. Has English citizenship so no issue regarding ESC-spots. Decent resale value as well given he's 27 years old. ย That's exactly what has gone on the signings are made out of necessity this regime has never 'built' anything they just replace and cobble together. All through Mowbrays tenure barring league one all that ever happened was padding out the squad.ย The odd bits of investment were and still are just brought in on an individual bases were they think it is a player who can be given games then sold for profit. Every one of these signings now will be stat based and what value they think they can get after 50 to 100 games. Remember Mowbray saying i don't look at the table and not that bothered about results as long as he can see good possession stats and individuals developing ? An utterly bizarre thing to say but born out of the truth because that is the mantra here now. 3 Quote
Lancaster Rover Posted Sunday at 08:03 Posted Sunday at 08:03 I still canโt believe weโre swapping Travis; promotion winner, club captain and nearly 250 champ games under his belt for someone who has played 100 games in serie C and D and 30 in a league with similar coefficient to Scotland, who most decry as being tinpot 4 Quote
JHRover Posted Sunday at 08:05 Posted Sunday at 08:05 So we're now so desperate to sell our home grown long standing captain that we are going to have to pay up 2 years of Mafoumbi's contract to get rid of him so that we can open up a slot to allow us to spend more money signing another foreign lad to replace the captain, who may well not be good enough anyway. What a joke of a club. I'm not going to forget the fact that a little over 12 months ago Gestede was doing work experience shadowing Waggott, apparently with a view to a future career as a CEO, and now he's responsible for all recruitment to the club. They've thrown our fate into the hands of a novice.ย ย ย 9 Quote
Old Codger Posted Sunday at 08:06 Posted Sunday at 08:06 2 minutes ago, Lancaster Rover said: I still canโt believe weโre swapping Travis; promotion winner, club captain and nearly 250 champ games under his belt for someone who has played 100 games in serie C and D and 30 in a league with similar coefficient to Scotland, who most decry as being tinpot All to save thruppence ha'penny. Baffling.. unless there is a cunning plan* ย ย ย ย ย *there isn't. ย ย ย Quote
G Somerset Rover Posted Sunday at 08:10 Posted Sunday at 08:10 21 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said: Baradji is Travis replacementย Letโs wait and see once Travis is out of the door. Quote
CambridgeRover Posted Sunday at 08:21 Posted Sunday at 08:21 12 minutes ago, Lancaster Rover said: I still canโt believe weโre swapping Travis; promotion winner, club captain and nearly 250 champ games under his belt for someone who has played 100 games in serie C and D and 30 in a league with similar coefficient to Scotland, who most decry as being tinpot Are we sure Travis is on his way out, I know Ismael hinted that is was possible but seems to be suicidal squad management to sell him now. Without Travis and Tronstad combo it could have been much worse yesterday. Travis is also a fighter and academy lad with a good connection to many fans. ย 29 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said: Exactly. It's was nasty cut to the head Baradji is Travis replacementย If that is the case I think it is a huge risk. We are already trying to get a cut price deal due to the fracture in his foot. Another unknown with no experience of the championship. Quote
Emerald Isle Rover Posted Sunday at 08:24 Posted Sunday at 08:24 2 minutes ago, CambridgeRover said: Are we sure Travis is on his way out, I know Ismael hinted that is was possible but seems to be suicidal squad management to sell him now. Without Travis and Tronstad combo it could have been much worse yesterday. Travis is also a fighter and academy lad with a good connection to many fans. ย If that is the case I think it is a huge risk. We are already trying to get a cut price deal due to the fracture in his foot. Another unknown with no experience of the championship. Travis is 100% the one leaving or available to leave if the right offer is madeย 3 Quote
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