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52 minutes ago, roversfan99 said:

Tom Cairney I think? Might be wrong but think it was a loan that turned into a buy.

Majority of loans are ones the parent club are just developing so there isnt an option.

Brereton

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Posted
1 minute ago, chaddyrovers said:

What a surpriseΒ 

What, that you just accept everything that they come out with at Ewood without engaging your own brain and thinking about things for a few minutes?

Yep no surprise at all.Β 

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Posted
1 minute ago, JHRover said:

What, that you just accept everything that they come out with at Ewood without engaging your own brain and thinking about things for a few minutes?

Yep no surprise at all.Β 

It's make perfect sense and I did called Cantwell would be named captain before last week game.Β 

People ridiculed me. Well I got it right didn't I.Β 

Giving Cantwell extra responsibility will help his game just like Neil Warnock did with Abel Tarabat at QPR

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Posted
Just now, chaddyrovers said:

It's make perfect sense and I did called Cantwell would be named captain before last week game.Β 

People ridiculed me. Well I got it right didn't I.Β 

Giving Cantwell extra responsibility will help his game just like Neil Warnock did with Abel Tarabat at QPR

So every year much of this thread is full of angry posts about Chaddy being delusional and the fact we're going to be relegated. For the last two years technically Chaddy was right to have hopes of optimism and a good season. If it happens a third time in a row does that make Chaddy right and the rest of the yearly doom mongers and chaddy haters delusional? 🀣

Posted (edited)
14 minutes ago, XLM said:

Brereton

That was a purchase dressed up as a loan. The purchase was guaranteed from the start. If I'm remembering rightly it was only a loan initially due to the loan window being open longer than the transfer window at that time. If I'm misremembering then it was probably just to push the accounting further down the line, but it was definitely not an option to purchase but an obligation.

Can only imagine how much flak they'd have got if we saw him be worthless for half a season then spent 7 mill on him anyway without being forced to.

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Posted
1 minute ago, bb1rover said:

So every year much of this thread is full of angry posts about Chaddy being delusional and the fact we're going to be relegated. For the last two years technically Chaddy was right to have hopes of optimism and a good season. If it happens a third time in a row does that make Chaddy right and the rest of the yearly doom mongers and chaddy haters delusional? 🀣

I think you've misremembered the last two seasons. Last season was a good one (minus our ritual January seppuku), but the season before we were a gnat's pube away from relegation. It's the season before that where we came close again.

Posted
3 minutes ago, bb1rover said:

So every year much of this thread is full of angry posts about Chaddy being delusional and the fact we're going to be relegated. For the last two years technically Chaddy was right to have hopes of optimism and a good season. If it happens a third time in a row does that make Chaddy right and the rest of the yearly doom mongers and chaddy haters delusional? 🀣

Not the last 2, but it has been 3 of the last 4.

21/22: 8th (tanked playoff push)

22/23: 7th (tanked playoff push)

23/24: 19th (damn near relegated)

24/25: 7th (tanked playoff push)

It is funny we've had seasons closer to what Chaddy has predicted than basically anyone else on here for 75% of the last 4 years.

... In spite of all conceivable facts and logic.

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Posted
7 minutes ago, bluebruce said:

I think you've misremembered the last two seasons. Last season was a good one (minus our ritual January seppuku), but the season before we were a gnat's pube away from relegation. It's the season before that where we came close again.

You're absolutely right. Shouldn't be posting so late at night after a flight!

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Posted
9 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

It's make perfect sense and I did called Cantwell would be named captain before last week game.Β 

People ridiculed me. Well I got it right didn't I.Β 

Giving Cantwell extra responsibility will help his game just like Neil Warnock did with Abel Tarabat at QPR

Fair point Chaddy, you were absolutely right about it happening, good prediction. I also think it had and may continue to have a short term boost in that game and perhaps beyond, in terms of his performance.

However, and perhaps time will prove this wrong, but I don't feel he has the right personality to be captain material in the longer term. I think it will make him step up, maybe for a few games, but he doesn't strike me as mature enough or selfless enough for it to pan out long term. He doesn't seem like he could pick a team up by the scruff of its neck and get it over the line, not even close tbh. But hopefully we at least see a bump in his own performances, hopefully one that lasts, and he can be a key player for us when on his game.

Posted
11 minutes ago, bluebruce said:

That was a purchase dressed up as a loan. The purchase was guaranteed from the start. If I'm remembering rightly it was only a loan initially due to the loan window being open longer than the transfer window at that time. If I'm misremembering then it was probably just to push the accounting further down the line, but it was definitely not an option to purchase but an obligation.

Can only imagine how much flak they'd have got if we saw him be worthless for half a season then spent 7 mill on him anyway without being forced to.

It was a loan with an option to buy.

Blackburn Rovers have completed the signing of Ben Brereton from Nottingham Forest.

The forward will move to Ewood Park on an initial loan deal with the option of a permanent transfer in January.

https://www.skysports.com/football/news/11676/11484523/blackburn-rovers-complete-signing-of-ben-brereton-from-nottingham-forest

Loans with an option favour the buying club. That's why the loaning club and player sign extended contracts between themselves to mitigate the risk they're incurring.

As always, loads to be annoyed about with Rovers, but the workings of the Baradji deal is not one of them.

Posted
2 minutes ago, XLM said:

It was a loan with an option to buy.

Blackburn Rovers have completed the signing of Ben Brereton from Nottingham Forest.

The forward will move to Ewood Park on an initial loan deal with the option of a permanent transfer in January.

https://www.skysports.com/football/news/11676/11484523/blackburn-rovers-complete-signing-of-ben-brereton-from-nottingham-forest

Loans with an option favour the buying club. That's why the loaning club and player sign extended contracts between themselves to mitigate the risk they're incurring.

As always, loads to be annoyed about with Rovers, but the workings of the Baradji deal is not one of them.

It was the worst kept secret that we were obliged to buy him.

I never even mentioned the Baradji deal, so I certainly wasn't criticising it. Tbh I don't even know what the connection is, I've not seen the last few pages. I assume we are loaning him with a view to buy? I've been out at work all day, maybe I need to check the news.

Posted
2 minutes ago, bluebruce said:

It was the worst kept secret that we were obliged to buy him.

I never even mentioned the Baradji deal, so I certainly wasn't criticising it. Tbh I don't even know what the connection is, I've not seen the last few pages. I assume we are loaning him with a view to buy? I've been out at work all day, maybe I need to check the news.

Yeah I should have said, the last paragraph wasn't to you specifically. Just skimmed through the last 5 pages and seen plenty of people disgruntled that it's a loan with an option.

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TBF, I fully expect Derby fans to react how some of our fans did when Mowbery was signing players from his old club 'use more imagination' 'jobs for the boys' etc. Unless you're signing genuinely great players relative to the clubs position, which none which have gone to Derby are, there's nearly always a greater level of scepticism of the signing.Β 

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