Lancaster Rover Posted 16 hours ago Posted 16 hours ago 2 minutes ago, Exiled_Rover said: Ooooph. He was one of the worst I've ever seen. They genuinely couldn't do much worse sacking the lot of them and starting again afresh. What in particular did he do so wrong? I genuinely can’t think of a major decision he got wrong. There was a corner we should have had second half and a foul on Cantwell second half on our right, oh and the comedy keeper count but other than that I didn’t see anything I particularly disagreed with or felt irked by 1 Quote
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CambridgeRover Posted 16 hours ago Posted 16 hours ago 1 minute ago, BRFC4EVA said: There are some on the those deluded Rovers facebook pages saying that the board has absolutely 'smashed' it this xfer window. Incredibly niave. Sadly, like all fan bases, if the club signs a few players some people think all their Christmases have come earlier. They won't look further than the surface level 2 Quote
Exiled_Rover Posted 16 hours ago Posted 16 hours ago (edited) 6 minutes ago, Lancaster Rover said: What in particular did he do so wrong? I genuinely can’t think of a major decision he got wrong. There was a corner we should have had second half and a foul on Cantwell second half on our right, oh and the comedy keeper count but other than that I didn’t see anything I particularly disagreed with or felt irked by Off the top of my head: Should have booked whoever scythed down Hedges and whoever fouled Alebiosu (#19?) in the first half when they were both clear down the wing. Should have booked both Norwich players who stood in front of the ball when Cantwell was trying to take a quick FK in the second half (Cantwell got a telling off instead). Should have booked the Norwich player who delayed the quick play of a throw-in in the first half. Hedges was fouled off the pitch in the second half and he waved play on. Should probably have given us a penalty for handball (haven't seen it back, but every Rovers player went up for it). Should have sent S. Wharton off for pulling back their attacker in the second half when clean through on goal. I'm only irked by it because Cantwell got booked for standing up for Ribeiro (one of their players was standing over Ribeiro menacingly as he was on the ground) and booked Tronstad for literally his first foul of the game. Either officiate it properly or don't bother and let it become a melee. Don't punish one team harshly and let the other off. Edited 16 hours ago by Exiled_Rover 2 1 Quote
Ossydave Posted 16 hours ago Posted 16 hours ago 2 minutes ago, BRFC4EVA said: There are some on the those deluded Rovers facebook pages saying that the board has absolutely 'smashed' it this xfer window. Incredibly niave. In fairness, how many new signings, across all the leagues have set the world on fire a few games in? Ekitike has done well, Grealish I guess, probably forgot a few but overall not many yet..... 1 Quote
M_B Posted 16 hours ago Posted 16 hours ago 48 minutes ago, Hasta said: We were in many games when we got relegated in 1999. But small margins cost us. We didn’t lose any of the first four games by more than a goal then. It’s rare a team gets relegated that aren’t “in” games unless they are really, really shit. It’s fine margins This season it is individual moments of a lack of quality costing us. Not clearing that long throw at West Brom. De Neve getting skinned and then Tavares delivering a crap corner against Brum. McLaughlin and Kargbo today. I know you’re incredibly blinkered on refs, but the only real one against us I feel is the penalty at West Brom. Everything other major decision I’ve agreed with. Ironically, it was that non clearance at West Brom which was the worst decision of them all. The ref shouldn't get another game after missing the foul on Alebiosu. Makes me wonder what he was actually watching. Terrible officiating. 2 Quote
Hasta Posted 16 hours ago Posted 16 hours ago (edited) 3 minutes ago, M_B said: Ironically, it was that non clearance at West Brom which was the worst decision of them all. The ref shouldn't get another game after missing the foul on Alebiosu. Makes me wonder what he was actually watching. Terrible officiating. Probably watching Travis pulling their goal scorer for about 5 seconds whilst the ball was in flight. Edited 16 hours ago by Hasta Quote
Theaxe15 Posted 16 hours ago Posted 16 hours ago 4 minutes ago, pick32 said: All the ITKS are quiet tonight on twitter Got the Sunday paper round in the morning, need an early night. 1 Quote
M_B Posted 16 hours ago Posted 16 hours ago 1 minute ago, Hasta said: Probably watching Travis’s pulling their goal scorer for about 5 seconds whilst the ball was in flight. Maybe so, but it doesn't make the Alebiosu decision any less ridiculous, 2 wrongs n all that. 1 Quote
Hasta Posted 16 hours ago Posted 16 hours ago (edited) 2 minutes ago, M_B said: Maybe so, but it doesn't make the Alebiosu decision any less ridiculous, 2 wrongs n all that. So if Travis pulls him first he should give a penalty as that occurs before the Alebiosu incident. Regardless Alebiosu should still have been stronger and got a decent connection on it. And the defenders in front should never have let it bounce over their heads. But no it’s not the players fault we’ve lost 4 in 5. It’s those bloody referees every time. Edited 16 hours ago by Hasta 2 2 Quote
Lancaster Rover Posted 16 hours ago Posted 16 hours ago 6 minutes ago, Exiled_Rover said: Off the top of my head: Should have booked whoever scythed down Hedges and whoever fouled Alebiosu (#19?) in the first half when they were both clear down the wing. Should have booked both Norwich players who stood in front of the ball when Cantwell was trying to take a quick FK in the second half (Cantwell got a telling off instead). Should have booked the Norwich player who delayed the quick play of a throw-in in the first half. Hedges was fouled off the pitch in the second half and he waved play on. Should probably have given us a penalty for handball (haven't seen it back, but every Rovers player went up for it). Should have sent S. Wharton off for pulling back their attacker in the second half when clean through on goal. I'm only irked by it because Cantwell got booked for standing up for Ribeiro (one of their players was standing over Ribeiro menacingly as he was on the ground) and booked Tronstad for literally his first foul of the game. Either officiate it properly or don't bother and let it become a melee. Don't punish one team harshly and let the other off. Fair enough, I didn’t see the hedges and Alebiousu ones as bookings. I also thought the ref should have got a grip generally on the Cantwell situation earlier, though again don’t think the two players should have been booked just told to grow up and pack it in. From where we were sat it looked a possible penalty but it’s not been mentioned in any of the post match press conferences as far as I heard driving home so maybe not a major incident. Quote
London blue Posted 16 hours ago Posted 16 hours ago 1 hour ago, Hasta said: Come on Chaddy, it is 4 losses in 5 and half of the players he mentioned were here last year. How long do we give them before judging them? Until they come good or they leave us. If the former, you'll be asked to retract your opinions. If the latter, he'll change his mind and claim he didn't. 1 Quote
G Somerset Rover Posted 15 hours ago Posted 15 hours ago 25 minutes ago, pick32 said: All the ITKS are quiet tonight on twitter Who cares who we sign. It’ll be more foreign players untested in this league, on much less wages than we’ve been paying seasoned pros from this league. This latest journey is gonna fall flat on its arse. 4 Quote
M_B Posted 15 hours ago Posted 15 hours ago 20 minutes ago, Hasta said: So if Travis pulls him first he should give a penalty as that occurs before the Alebiosu incident. Regardless Alebiosu should still have been stronger and got a decent connection on it. And the defenders in front should never have let it bounce over their heads. But no it’s not the players fault we’ve lost 4 in 5. It’s those bloody referees every time. I'm not one to blame refs,don't think I've commented on one all season till now, but at the time I saw that one and seeing it back just confirmed what a poor decision it was having directly led to a goal. Quote
JamieUK Posted 15 hours ago Posted 15 hours ago 47 minutes ago, Exiled_Rover said: Off the top of my head: Should have booked whoever scythed down Hedges and whoever fouled Alebiosu (#19?) in the first half when they were both clear down the wing. Should have booked both Norwich players who stood in front of the ball when Cantwell was trying to take a quick FK in the second half (Cantwell got a telling off instead). Should have booked the Norwich player who delayed the quick play of a throw-in in the first half. Hedges was fouled off the pitch in the second half and he waved play on. Should probably have given us a penalty for handball (haven't seen it back, but every Rovers player went up for it). Should have sent S. Wharton off for pulling back their attacker in the second half when clean through on goal. I'm only irked by it because Cantwell got booked for standing up for Ribeiro (one of their players was standing over Ribeiro menacingly as he was on the ground) and booked Tronstad for literally his first foul of the game. Either officiate it properly or don't bother and let it become a melee. Don't punish one team harshly and let the other off. add: Calling back the throw in in second half JW side when we were through only to give it to Rovers Getting in the way of one of our attackers again in the second half as were moving forward Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying he's cost us the game - the players have done that themselves but it was a pretty shite performance. That said, most are. 2 Quote
roversfan99 Posted 15 hours ago Posted 15 hours ago Ismael seemed to downplay the possibility of more signings beside Gudjohnsen without ruling it out. Elliott Jackson also seems to be under the impression that it might be just Gudjohnsen if that gets done. Thats a massive concern and leaves us short not of bodies but of certain qualities in a few areas. As mentioned, we badly need another senior goalkeeper. Goes without saying. We definitely need a midfielder. People suggesting that Tavares is an upgrade on Travis are totally wrong. He has shown flashes, was woeful today but seems like one we could develop but I wouldnt bank on him every week. Baradji is injured and Montgomery isnt ready. Browne would have been ideal with Championship experience but it seems with Gestede and Owen playing their own game of football manager, its not important. We also still need some pace across the front line, ideally from wide. We needed some going into the summer and havent got that. Kargbo is the only pacy player and he isnt up to the standard. I would like another striker too and to get rid of Gueye. 3 Quote
yeti-dog Posted 15 hours ago Posted 15 hours ago Some thoughts: Gueye was terrible. He needs to go. Tavares was poor. Kargbo ditto. We were crap in the 1st half, better in the 2nd. Plenty of work to be done... 3 Quote
gumboots Posted 15 hours ago Posted 15 hours ago 2 minutes ago, JamieUK said: add: Calling back the throw in in second half JW side when we were through only to give it to Rovers Getting in the way of one of our attackers again in the second half as were moving forward Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying he's cost us the game - the players have done that themselves but it was a pretty shite performance. That said, most are. It's no better here in France. Went to Lorient Lille this afternoon and the ref was really big club biased. Handed out yellow cards like sweets to Lorient players whilst giving Lille players a talking to. Match ended 1-7 and Lille deserved their win, but even handed the ref definitely wasn't. Oh and the player linked with Rovers last week missed a penalty. 3 Quote
Ghost7 Posted 15 hours ago Posted 15 hours ago Plenty of positives and frustrations from today's game... a major frustration being I've wanted them to sign a strong athletic centre back all summer but we ended up with McLoughlin and the reality is Modibo Sagnan who we started the summer off "in advance talks with" according to Jackson.... and Steve Kapuadi probably wouldn't have been beaten for pace as easily but we wouldn't pay the money needed. You need more ambition at this level. Buy cheap, buy twice. Suspect that might be the case with many of our cheap signings that aren't quite good enough... Gueye and Ohashi from last seasons business are probably prime examples. We're still in the market for strikers. Those smaller fees add up, just pay the money needed for the right quality Suhail. 6 Quote
Tomphil2 Posted 14 hours ago Posted 14 hours ago Gudjohnsen could be the marquee signing. That means there's a fine chance it'll fall through.... Quote
BRFC. Posted 14 hours ago Posted 14 hours ago 15 minutes ago, Tomphil2 said: Gudjohnsen could be the marquee signing. That means there's a fine chance it'll fall through.... Our marquee signing had 2X less the goals than Gueye had in the Belgium league and in a better team. Concerning…. Quote
Elrovers Posted 14 hours ago Posted 14 hours ago 1 minute ago, BRFC. said: Our marquee signing had 2X less the goals than Gueye had in the Belgium league and in a better team. Concerning…. He is only 23 tbf and has already played in the conference league. We have plenty of time to develop him so id take that any day tbh 1 Quote
Tomphil2 Posted 14 hours ago Posted 14 hours ago 9 minutes ago, BRFC. said: Our marquee signing had 2X less the goals than Gueye had in the Belgium league and in a better team. Concerning…. Well we've had Telovic, now Gueye so maybe 3rd time lucky. 2 Quote
metalrover Posted 14 hours ago Posted 14 hours ago It's way too late now VI starting to realize majority of the signings are duds, way way below Championship standard. Window gonna slam shut, we gonna get stucked with this lot of development players to steer us out of trouble. Watching Rovers gives me severe depression. 1 1 Quote
Exiled_Rover Posted 13 hours ago Posted 13 hours ago 1 hour ago, metalrover said: It's way too late now VI starting to realize majority of the signings are duds, way way below Championship standard. Window gonna slam shut, we gonna get stucked with this lot of development players to steer us out of trouble. Watching Rovers gives me severe depression. Yeah I definitely need some time away from this board. Writing players off after 4 games. Unbelievable. 1 Quote
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