2025 Summer Transfer Thread. 😂

[BRFC.]

19 minutes ago, KentExile said:

Maybe he has a Turkish idol?

With all due respect Tugay to Hickman. This is what 15 years of venkys does to a club 

Edited 8 hours ago by BRFC.

[joey_big_nose]

2 hours ago, Tomphil2 said:

Almost like we are comparing 10k+ a week players to 3-5k a week players......

Well that is the plan. Try to maintain or not lose too much overall quality while substantially cutting costs; alongside creating "saleable assets" for the future. 

It's a very very tricky plan to pull off. I will be very impressed with the recruitment team if we manage to steer clear of a relegation battle.

[roversfan99]

So we have to watch Gueye in a Rovers shirt again. Wonderful.

[chaddyrovers]

1 hour ago, roversfan99 said:

How do you know that there has been no in fighting?

my opinion

1 hour ago, roversfan99 said:

He was expecting to keep key players and only need to make 6 or 7 signings to build on that. 

He said other comments about the Rovers were making more of overhaul then we were expecting. 

1 hour ago, roversfan99 said:

Sure he is buzzing to lose all of the players we have and to see Hyam flogged without replacement on deadline day. If hes not had a moan about that behind closed doors then he really is all about not rocking the boat to stay on that nice long contract he wont get at another Championship club. 

Hyam shouldn't have been sold so late in the window and even more so without a proper replacement in. 

1 hour ago, roversfan99 said:

A strange one shrouded in mystery.

I get that he was clearly one that was wanted but if he isnt fit any time soon then it is such a bizarre bit of business.

Shrouded in mystery? how? over his injury? 

Hasn't he gone to see a specialist over the international break? sure I read that somewhere

Ismael and Gestede were big fan of him and wanted him all summer. Their top midfield target 

[roversfan99]

Be a big fan all they want, hes no use if hes not available. 

[chaddyrovers]

no point being over judgemental until we know what the specialist has said, exactly why Rovers did the loan to buy agreement? 

I take you aren't in favour of us doing this. 

[Leonard Venkhater]

1 minute ago, chaddyrovers said:

no point being over judgemental until we know what the specialist has said, exactly why Rovers did the loan to buy agreement? 

I take you aren't in favour of us doing this. 

Next, the club will be doing a deal with Scales funeral service

[Paul Mellelieu]

15 years of disastrous ownership and you still side of who's in charge.  

[NeilInBristol]

3 hours ago, roversfan99 said:

A strange one shrouded in mystery.

I get that he was clearly one that was wanted but if he isnt fit any time soon then it is such a bizarre bit of business.

Yeh it’s madness

i would rather they spent the money on offering Hyam travis and tronstad actual championship standard contract offers but not upto me 

[bluebruce]

2 hours ago, roversfan99 said:

A strange one shrouded in mystery.

I get that he was clearly one that was wanted but if he isnt fit any time soon then it is such a bizarre bit of business.

I don't find it too mysterious. It's a financially low risk gamble. We really wanted him, but the injury situation concerned us too much to pay and contract him for years. So now we get to have a look first, at both his injury status and quality. For probably the cost of covering his tiny wages and maybe a fee of about 200k I'd guess, which probably isn't too dissimilar to paying him for a year on an uplifted wage. If we did nothing and waited for his injury to sort itself his price would potentially go up.

The mystery is in the status of his injury, and why we thought it was appropriate to sell Travis and bring in an injured player as the replacement - but I expect the latter part is answered by the loanee from Birmingham. So if he isn't any good, or is suddenly needed at RB, it's a bit of a risk in a window of risks, but not that big of one and not that much of a mystery tbh.

[roversfan99]

53 minutes ago, bluebruce said:

I don't find it too mysterious. It's a financially low risk gamble. We really wanted him, but the injury situation concerned us too much to pay and contract him for years. So now we get to have a look first, at both his injury status and quality. For probably the cost of covering his tiny wages and maybe a fee of about 200k I'd guess, which probably isn't too dissimilar to paying him for a year on an uplifted wage. If we did nothing and waited for his injury to sort itself his price would potentially go up.

The mystery is in the status of his injury, and why we thought it was appropriate to sell Travis and bring in an injured player as the replacement - but I expect the latter part is answered by the loanee from Birmingham. So if he isn't any good, or is suddenly needed at RB, it's a bit of a risk in a window of risks, but not that big of one and not that much of a mystery tbh.

But we tried to sign him, he failed a medical, then 6 weeks later or whatever it was, he came in again, presumably had more checks, and still a couple of weeks later we were none the wiser regarding when he might be able to play.

The TGH loan seemed to be a desperate attempt to bring in another body on deadline day, contrary to Ismael having said 2 days prior that he didnt expect any loans. Maybe it with Hyam going and just feeling the need to get someone in, maybe Baradji had since been seen to and the news wasnt good.

Either way, its a bit of a mess. Tavares wasnt signed as a direct replacement for Travis and has not settled in well early on. Baradji maybe was but any sense in such a deal will lie in when he is actually fit, we need him now, we cant afford to wait ages and even when he recovers he will then need to get up to speed. And TGH seemed like a late desperate attempt to add an extra body.

[roversfan99]

Theres also no way that Ismael can claim to be happy about the summer window.

He said he only wanted 6 or 7 and to build on what we had. We signed 10 and still are short such are the players that left.

He wanted to keep Travis, Brittain, Hyam, Dolan, Batth and Weimann. None stayed.

He wanted to keep Hyam and wasnt concerned about him going 2 days before the deadline. He went and with no replacement.

He wanted 0 loans, we got 2.

[Hasta]

24 minutes ago, roversfan99 said:

Theres also no way that Ismael can claim to be happy about the summer window.

He said he only wanted 6 or 7 and to build on what we had. We signed 10 and still are short such are the players that left.

He wanted to keep Travis, Brittain, Hyam, Dolan, Batth and Weimann. None stayed.

He wanted to keep Hyam and wasnt concerned about him going 2 days before the deadline. He went and with no replacement.

He wanted 0 loans, we got 2.

He also clearly said any outgoings would be replaced, and then we sold Hyam at the last minute. 

Edited 5 hours ago by Hasta

[M_B]

5 hours ago, roversfan99 said:

The blame undoubtedly goes above Ismael but I do also think that he is a far inferior manager to what has gone before.

Which just compounds the issue.

Be interesting to see if he can prove himself better than Eustace this season. 

[M_B]

50 minutes ago, roversfan99 said:

Theres also no way that Ismael can claim to be happy about the summer window.

He said he only wanted 6 or 7 and to build on what we had. We signed 10 and still are short such are the players that left.

He wanted to keep Travis, Brittain, Hyam, Dolan, Batth and Weimann. None stayed.

He wanted to keep Hyam and wasnt concerned about him going 2 days before the deadline. He went and with no replacement.

He wanted 0 loans, we got 2.

He also said we're paying for past managerial mistakes, we can't afford for players who aren't signing to walk away for nothing. 

[chaddyrovers]

1 hour ago, roversfan99 said:

Theres also no way that Ismael can claim to be happy about the summer window.

He said he only wanted 6 or 7 and to build on what we had. We signed 10 and still are short such are the players that left.

But he also said later in the summer that they had overhaul the squad more than he wanted but the contract situation meant we sold certain players and bought in signings. 

1 hour ago, roversfan99 said:

He wanted to keep Travis, Brittain, Hyam, Dolan, Batth and Weimann. None stayed.

Yes none stayed but Travis, Brittain and Hyam we received around £8m for them which some of that money was reinvested in the squad from the original £5m budget. 

if we couldn't agree new contracts then do we let them leave for free which I thought you were against that. Their demands are much higher than we can afford 

1 hour ago, roversfan99 said:

He wanted to keep Hyam and wasnt concerned about him going 2 days before the deadline. He went and with no replacement.

Wrexham were targeted a another centre back and looking to pay £2.5m for that player. Rovers decided to take that money which I wouldn't unless you had a proper centre back replacement lined up to come in

1 hour ago, roversfan99 said:

He wanted 0 loans, we got 2.

2 loans to buy. Baradji loan to buy is a smart move by Rovers, if he plays and perform well enough we sign him. 

 

Edited 5 hours ago by chaddyrovers

[roversfan99]

17 minutes ago, M_B said:

He also said we're paying for past managerial mistakes, we can't afford for players who aren't signing to walk away for nothing. 

Yes, but still they havent managed to start sorting players contracts out.

You seem to be of the opinion that they have learnt their lessons.

Until they start sorting contracts out then ill assume that they havent learnt anything. And it will undermine anything we are supposed to be building.

[roversfan99]

8 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

But he also said later in the summer that they had overhaul the squad more than he wanted but the contract situation meant we sold certain players and bought in signings. 

Yes none stayed but Travis, Brittain and Hyam we received around £8m for them which some of that money was reinvested in the squad from the original £5m budget. 

if we couldn't agree new contracts then do we let them leave for free which I thought you were against that. Their demands are much higher than we can afford 

Wrexham were targeted a another centre back and looking to pay £2.5m for that player. Rovers decided to take that money which I wouldn't unless you had a proper centre back replacement lined up to come in

2 loans to buy. Baradji loan to buy is a smart move by Rovers, if he plays and perform well enough we sign him. 

 

I am against that, but I am more against being totally unable to agree new deals with ANYONE.

We have lost our best players and over half a team because of it. The odd one, fine, you sell and replace. Impossible to adequately replace that many.

Im not sure its that smart unless he comes back very soon and is good because theres a big hole where Travis was.

[Tomphil2]

Ismael will go through the motions then at some point in the next 6 to 18 months he'll get fixed up with a club in Saudi or somewhere that will pay him a nice salary and Rovers some compen.

Or he'll end up coaching in India.

We have an agents network sprouting out from this club again imo so keep a close eye on this.

 

[RevidgeBlue]

54 minutes ago, M_B said:

Be interesting to see if he can prove himself better than Eustace this season. 

What, do you think there's actually the faintest chance he'll finish 6th or above?.

If you do you make chaddy look like a pessimist!.

He's no excuse not to mind - he's got all these more mobile athletic types he wanted.

[M_B]

29 minutes ago, roversfan99 said:

Yes, but still they havent managed to start sorting players contracts out.

You seem to be of the opinion that they have learnt their lessons.

Until they start sorting contracts out then ill assume that they havent learnt anything. And it will undermine anything we are supposed to be building.

They've just sorted 10 contracts out, it isn't a case of can't.

If players aren't signing then sell them, that much has definitely been learned . Whatever is going on, it most definitely isn't a continuation of the last few years, as you keep eluding to. 

[M_B]

7 minutes ago, RevidgeBlue said:

What, do you think there's actually the faintest chance he'll finish 6th or above?.

If you do you make chaddy look like a pessimist!.

He's no excuse not to mind - he's got all these more mobile athletic types he wanted.

I was meaning who finishes higher in the league this season. 

[RevidgeBlue]

47 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

. Yes none stayed but Travis, Brittain and Hyam we received around £8m for them which some of that money was reinvested in the squad from the original £5m budget. 

According to reports we got £3.5m for Travis and Brittain and £2.7m for Hyam.

Then roughly £1m each for JRC Buckley and Leonard.

Don't try to make out as though we actually spent any money this summer.

[joey_big_nose]

2 hours ago, roversfan99 said:

Theres also no way that Ismael can claim to be happy about the summer window.

He said he only wanted 6 or 7 and to build on what we had. We signed 10 and still are short such are the players that left.

He wanted to keep Travis, Brittain, Hyam, Dolan, Batth and Weimann. None stayed.

He wanted to keep Hyam and wasnt concerned about him going 2 days before the deadline. He went and with no replacement.

He wanted 0 loans, we got 2.

Yes hes only happy with these circumstances until he gets a better offer which is if he surprisingly manages to succeed with the awful level of risk hes been given.

Even if we luck out with the signings he will still want to move somewhere there is investment.

With the way we treat the managers its either tails we lose (they do badly and we're stuck with them) tails you win (they do well but with an enhanced reputation they jump ship at first opportunity).

Weve had two of the latter with JDT and Eustace. With Ismael it could go either way. But what it absolutely cant lead to is him and the players doing well and us keeping them. Sad face.

Edited 4 hours ago by joey_big_nose

[RevidgeBlue]

6 minutes ago, M_B said:

I was meaning who finishes higher in the league this season. 

That's not really a fair comparison as the two were starting from two completely different levels. VI inherited a squad that finished 7th then instead of building on that, him and the regime CHOSE to completely dismantle the squad. Eustace inherited a squad that narrowly avoided relegation but Id still expect Derby to finish comfortably above us.

Along with about 21 other teams. I predicted us to finish 22nd at the start of the season and I've not seen much to change my mind yet.