roversfan99 Posted 22 hours ago Posted 22 hours ago I dont really care about other clubs, it doesnt excuse our shitty policies. Other clubs are in different situations. Not the same supporter unrest, not the same whittled down fanbase, not the same economic conditions in those areas, not the same lack of demand and number of empty seats. Bolton for example will have sold miles more in that first phase than we will. 7 Quote
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Upside Down Posted 22 hours ago Posted 22 hours ago 6 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said: All football clubs have these Phases when it's to season tickets. Bolton phase two started before the season ended. What was their phase one price and how many did they sell in that phase? CONTEXT Quote
47er Posted 21 hours ago Posted 21 hours ago On 06/05/2025 at 01:52, Athlete said: BWD is one of the most deprived areas of the country Rovers had no need to increase prices way way above inflation Rovers have one "plan" only---to fleece committed supporters for as much as they can gouge them and to fail to even attempt to attract new ones. This is a sure-fire recipe for a long lingering death as the supporter base continues to age. Of the 7500 season ticket holders we have at this minute, what % are non-concession holders? I bet we struggle to reach the pathetic 4000 we had last season. 3 Quote
chaddyrovers Posted 21 hours ago Posted 21 hours ago It's every club who does Phases regarding ST and the prices go up in each Phase. This entire football issue. Most people and football clubs are feeling the financial pressures at the minutes with energy prices going up and NIC rise Quote
roversfan99 Posted 19 hours ago Posted 19 hours ago The TV money keeps going up, at the inconvenience of the match going fan. Those increases far exceed minor increases relative to a football club such as energy and national insurance. Dont let the sob stories from Waggott and Suhail fool you. Problem is that clubs pay far too much in wages, its not an increase in gas and electric or NI that is causing football clubs to be so reliant on owner investment year on year. But either way, whether other clubs do it or not is not the point. Those clubs are in totally different situations to us. Our fan base dwindles and dwindles, those other clubs can do it because their sales are higher and their grounds are far more full therefore its far more justified. We also have a lot of angry and unhappy fans who may have cooled off in the summer or decided that they missed going. But now, they will be much more unlikely to then buy at a higher price. If you sell 12k or more of say a possible 23k season tickets at the end of a first phase, with a fan base that isnt full of unhappiness. Its fine to then not necessarily sell many more after it, for it to just tick over with a few more sales after which is more likely if the fanbase isnt already angry at having the piss taking out of it. If you sell 7.5k (and boast about it) of a possible 23k season tickets, with an unhappy fanbase. To then bring in a second phase of higher prices is just preventing that majority of empty seats from being sold. Its such a flawed mindset to shrug your shoulders and say well some other teams are also doing it. Its simply not comparing like for like. If we scrapped the phases at our club, I would be pretty sure that yes cash flow in might become slightly more staggered across the summer, for the sake of a month or two, but the overall sales income would be higher. 1 Quote
... Posted 17 hours ago Posted 17 hours ago Why did they extend phase 1? Did they not pull the numbers they thought? Quote
lraC Posted 14 hours ago Posted 14 hours ago https://www.bwfc.co.uk/more/tickets/202526-season-tickets Quote
Forever Blue Posted 14 hours ago Posted 14 hours ago 7 hours ago, chaddyrovers said: All football clubs have these Phases when it's to season tickets. Bolton phase two started before the season ended. They’d sold 14k season tickets before ours went on sale. Context is everything. 1 Quote
lraC Posted 14 hours ago Posted 14 hours ago 2 hours ago, ... said: Why did they extend phase 1? Did they not pull the numbers they thought? That’s probably the case, but they are unlikely to admit that. Gestede has already stated that the transfer budget won’t be changed, so the numbers are perhaps irrelevant. 3 Quote
arbitro Posted 14 hours ago Posted 14 hours ago Lunacy. Last season an under 18 in the Upper JW outer was £59. The early bird price this season was £99 and the Phase Two price has gone up to £149. How on earth can they justify an almost 200% increase? 4 Quote
Mattyblue Posted 13 hours ago Posted 13 hours ago No chance we’ll see cheap kids season tickets again after last season - the 4,000 full price sales and plenty of adults seemingly going to Ewood on concession tickets instead. Quote
rigger Posted 13 hours ago Posted 13 hours ago (edited) 45 minutes ago, arbitro said: Lunacy. Last season an under 18 in the Upper JW outer was £59. The early bird price this season was £99 and the Phase Two price has gone up to £149. How on earth can they justify an almost 200% increase? The club will say it is to stop over 18's buying under 18's tickets. Whereas what the club should do is reduce the price of adult tickets. Edited 13 hours ago by rigger 2 Quote
M_B Posted 13 hours ago Posted 13 hours ago Never mind Bolton, how many have Preston sold? I thought they were the panacea. 1 Quote
Mattyblue Posted 13 hours ago Posted 13 hours ago (edited) Zero. But when they do go on sale on Monday, they’ll be 100 to 150 quid cheaper (which is odd as I’m sure they told the FF that it isn’t possible in this division): Edited 12 hours ago by Mattyblue 1 Quote
Moderation Lead K-Hod Posted 13 hours ago Moderation Lead Posted 13 hours ago 9 hours ago, chaddyrovers said: All football clubs have these Phases when it's to season tickets. Bolton phase two started before the season ended. Yes, they do, you’re right. It doesn’t make it right though. 3 Quote
Forever Blue Posted 12 hours ago Posted 12 hours ago (edited) 20 minutes ago, M_B said: Never mind Bolton, how many have Preston sold? I thought they were the panacea. They’ll sell more than us, and some of them will be able to use the word panacea in the right context 😉 Edited 12 hours ago by Forever Blue 3 Quote
Tomphil2 Posted 12 hours ago Posted 12 hours ago 2 hours ago, Forever Blue said: They’d sold 14k season tickets before ours went on sale. Context is everything. They hooked them with cheap season tickets years ago and have managed to keep them but it was a change of ownership that sparked it off. The attitude here is we have 8/9 who will buy every year and 3 or 4k who'll turn up match by match so we'll squeeze them as much as possible sod the rest. 1 Quote
Tomphil2 Posted 12 hours ago Posted 12 hours ago 21 minutes ago, Mattyblue said: Zero. But when they do go on sale on Monday, they’ll be 100 to 150 quid cheaper (which is odd as I’m sure they told the FF that it isn’t possible in this division): Yeah but they don't run an academy is the usual bat off answer when comparing to Prestons prices. They don't sell academy players either for 20 million, they aren't owned by billionaires and they can't host more than 20k in Weepdale when needed. 1 Quote
M_B Posted 9 hours ago Posted 9 hours ago 3 hours ago, Forever Blue said: They’ll sell more than us, and some of them will be able to use the word panacea in the right context 😉 Panacea- remedy for all diseases. The word was chosen carefully, I don't need a lesson 1 Quote
chaddyrovers Posted 8 hours ago Posted 8 hours ago 2 hours ago, M_B said: Never mind Bolton, how many have Preston sold? I thought they were the panacea. not many so far, didn't announce their ST prices till this week. My friends who are PNE supporters will renew but ain't rushing to do it, couple of days before the deadline 2 hours ago, K-Hod said: Yes, they do, you’re right. It doesn’t make it right though. never mentioned whether it was right or wrong, but as I rightly said all football clubs do it and the reasons behind it to get cash flow into the club during the summer months when there is no matches on. 2 hours ago, Tomphil2 said: Yeah but they don't run an academy is the usual bat off answer when comparing to Prestons prices. They don't sell academy players either for 20 million, they aren't owned by billionaires and they can't host more than 20k in Weepdale when needed. Preston ain't big spenders either and my supporters would like a different head coach in charge and change of tactics and squad. Plus they have just lost 2 Key players on a free in Woodman and Riis 2 Quote
Forever Blue Posted 8 hours ago Posted 8 hours ago 59 minutes ago, M_B said: Panacea- remedy for all diseases. The word was chosen carefully, I don't need a lesson When you googled it would have also told you how to use the word in a sentence. It makes no sense how you’ve used it. Trying to be a smart arse about attendances didn’t quite work out for you. Quote
CA1Rover Posted 8 hours ago Posted 8 hours ago Anyone heard if this is to be the same for 25/26? In a landmark commitment, the EFL and Sky committed to providing fans and clubs up to five months’ notice of TV selections, an increase from the five weeks' notice given across the majority of the 2023/24 season. Within seven days of the EFL Fixture Release Day, all matches selected for broadcast for the period to the end of September were announced, and before a ball was kicked in August, all TV selections were confirmed for the period up to the FA Cup third round in early January 2025. In November 2024, selections were made in respect of all matches played between the end of the third round proper of the FA Cup and the first weekend of March 2025. Quote
M_B Posted 7 hours ago Posted 7 hours ago 43 minutes ago, Forever Blue said: When you googled it would have also told you how to use the word in a sentence. It makes no sense how you’ve used it. Trying to be a smart arse about attendances didn’t quite work out for you. Know when to stop digging, there's a lesson. 2 Quote
chaddyrovers Posted 7 hours ago Posted 7 hours ago 9 hours ago, roversfan99 said: The TV money keeps going up, at the inconvenience of the match going fan. Those increases far exceed minor increases relative to a football club such as energy and national insurance. Dont let the sob stories from Waggott and Suhail fool you. Problem is that clubs pay far too much in wages, its not an increase in gas and electric or NI that is causing football clubs to be so reliant on owner investment year on year. But either way, whether other clubs do it or not is not the point. Those clubs are in totally different situations to us. Our fan base dwindles and dwindles, those other clubs can do it because their sales are higher and their grounds are far more full therefore its far more justified. We also have a lot of angry and unhappy fans who may have cooled off in the summer or decided that they missed going. But now, they will be much more unlikely to then buy at a higher price. If you sell 12k or more of say a possible 23k season tickets at the end of a first phase, with a fan base that isnt full of unhappiness. Its fine to then not necessarily sell many more after it, for it to just tick over with a few more sales after which is more likely if the fanbase isnt already angry at having the piss taking out of it. If you sell 7.5k (and boast about it) of a possible 23k season tickets, with an unhappy fanbase. To then bring in a second phase of higher prices is just preventing that majority of empty seats from being sold. Its such a flawed mindset to shrug your shoulders and say well some other teams are also doing it. Its simply not comparing like for like. If we scrapped the phases at our club, I would be pretty sure that yes cash flow in might become slightly more staggered across the summer, for the sake of a month or two, but the overall sales income would be higher. do you know how much energy cost and NIC increase have gone up for Rovers. Our fan base dwindles? really? The fan base is there but fans won't commit to ST for a range of different issues like work commitments, family commitments, cost of STH, Budget reasons. Not everyone works a 9-5 job like yourself but many people work nights or weekends. I currently work nights and have done for the past 5 years as it suits me, my family and my commitments, nights games are somewhat a problem for me given I would have sleep 3-4 hours less in order to attend home games but I just get on with it and attend the games cos I loved Rovers and watching my team play. We seen fans turned out for games like PNE, Burnley and Derby home games, the home game against Derby was a great atmosphere Our season tickets is roughly the same it was back in 2017. I was pleased to hear Yasir Sufi mentioned during his interview with Elliott Jackson mentioned about having different ST's coming soon where it was for example 15 games one for people who can't attend 23 games a season like myself. the fanbase is angry? is it? based on what? Some fans aren't and some are. some fans think we massive over achieved this season and some are looking forward to next season. Quote
chaddyrovers Posted 7 hours ago Posted 7 hours ago 1 hour ago, CA1Rover said: Anyone heard if this is to be the same for 25/26? In a landmark commitment, the EFL and Sky committed to providing fans and clubs up to five months’ notice of TV selections, an increase from the five weeks' notice given across the majority of the 2023/24 season. Within seven days of the EFL Fixture Release Day, all matches selected for broadcast for the period to the end of September were announced, and before a ball was kicked in August, all TV selections were confirmed for the period up to the FA Cup third round in early January 2025. In November 2024, selections were made in respect of all matches played between the end of the third round proper of the FA Cup and the first weekend of March 2025. I would imagine so Quote
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