rigger Posted Saturday at 07:48 Posted Saturday at 07:48 1 minute ago, M_B said: Not difficult, just offer 2000 in the Darwen end upper. Or Blackburn end upper Quote
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M_B Posted Saturday at 08:57 Posted Saturday at 08:57 1 hour ago, rigger said: Or Blackburn end upper I realised, I did edit it straight away. Quote
Upside Down Posted Saturday at 23:18 Posted Saturday at 23:18 15 hours ago, Tomphil2 said: Bolton have introduced some sort of flexi ticket despite selling probably double what we have. Seen a few of their fans saying it's a bit pointless because ST's in certain sections are cheap enough to buy then not bother if you miss half the games. Used to be like that here. This is the point. You don't need a flex ticket option if season tickets are priced well. 2 Quote
Tomphil2 Posted Sunday at 16:41 Posted Sunday at 16:41 17 hours ago, Upside Down said: This is the point. You don't need a flex ticket option if season tickets are priced well. They price theirs well, sell 16k in league 1 and also still offer a flexi ticket once the full ST sales have maxed out. Here meanwhile they hike most prices, sell a measly 8k despite finishing just outside the top 6 in the Championship then hike the prices again once sales have maxed out. Idiots doesn't begin to describe it. 4 Quote
London blue Posted 12 hours ago Posted 12 hours ago Season tickets sales down but revenue from them up. Exactly what they want. Fewer fans = less overhead = more profit. With the added bonus of fewer people to vent anger towards them. Win win. 6 Quote
rigger Posted 12 hours ago Posted 12 hours ago 32 minutes ago, London blue said: Season tickets sales down but revenue from them up. Exactly what they want. Fewer fans = less overhead = more profit. With the added bonus of fewer people to vent anger towards them. Win win. The first line is probably due to, not as many junior tickets sold to adults as last season. Quote
Popular Post Trinidad Rover Posted 12 hours ago Popular Post Posted 12 hours ago Down to the very 'core' of supporters buying season tickets now - those who would buy a season ticket regardless of owner, league or situation. And all credit to them. The club will know this, hence the price rises to capitalise on revenue. There is zero effort to: 1. Increase season ticket sales to NEW supporters 2. Try and entice old season tickets holders back. Countless examples where people have not renewed and the club have not followed up. Those two things take a bit of commercial nouse and principally, effort. Two things sorely lacking at the club for many years. I have said this for a long time, the club is not interested in the supporters as we have no material impact on the P&L. The controllable lines (expenses & running costs) have been adjusted down to improve operating profit, in addition to sales revenue. We are all witnessing the lack of reinvestment. LET THE GOOD TIMES ROLL! 11 Quote
Popular Post Mike Graham Posted 11 hours ago Popular Post Posted 11 hours ago Perhaps Rovers could try something really novel such as marketing beyond their existing database and even looking beyond the borders of BwD? PNE are running free soccer schools for kids in Chorley this year with, no doubt, some freebie tickets thrown in to entice the youngsters to Dumpdale. This is Chorley FFS……a Rovers stronghold for many years. The Council leader is a rovers fan and the manager of the Westway complex where the sessions are being held is a Rovers fan and a past employee of our Community Trust. The idea of marketing outside BwD has been raised time and time and time again. Rovers and the Community Trust refuse to do any work in PR postcodes as it will upset the arrangements they have with competitor clubs. As the crow flies I live 1 mile from the BwD border and the area was full of Rovers fans - the school kids now get enticed to PNE. We are officially useless, toothless and careless at marketing. Which clown(s) heads this up for the club? 14 Quote
RevidgeBlue Posted 11 hours ago Posted 11 hours ago (edited) 6 minutes ago, Mike Graham said: Perhaps Rovers could try something really novel such as marketing beyond their existing database and even looking beyond the borders of BwD? PNE are running free soccer schools for kids in Chorley this year with, no doubt, some freebie tickets thrown in to entice the youngsters to Dumpdale. This is Chorley FFS……a Rovers stronghold for many years. The Council leader is a rovers fan and the manager of the Westway complex where the sessions are being held is a Rovers fan and a past employee of our Community Trust. The idea of marketing outside BwD has been raised time and time and time again. Rovers and the Community Trust refuse to do any work in PR postcodes as it will upset the arrangements they have with competitor clubs. As the crow flies I live 1 mile from the BwD border and the area was full of Rovers fans - the school kids now get enticed to PNE. We are officially useless, toothless and careless at marketing. Which clown(s) heads this up for the club? "Arrangements we have with competitor clubs" WTF? What's that then? "We won't stray outside BWD, you do whatever the hell you like?" Sorry, not wanting to shoot the messenger, never heard this before and I can't quite believe it. Edited 11 hours ago by RevidgeBlue 4 Quote
Mike Graham Posted 11 hours ago Posted 11 hours ago (edited) 18 minutes ago, RevidgeBlue said: "Arrangements we have with competitor clubs" WTF? What's that then? "We won't stray outside BWD, you do whatever the hell you like?" Sorry, not wanting to shoot the messenger, never heard this before and I can't quite believe it. I thought it was common knowledge. I am sure Duncan will confirm my statement above. This has been the case for years, we have been told the likes of “there is so much infill in the BwD area that this is our focus before we look elsewhere”. The Community Trust have arrangements with other community trusts in Lancashire not to tread on each others toes - perhaps this will also explain the lack of activity in Rishton, Ossy and Accy alongside that for Chorley, Leyland and local villages such as Samlesbury, Hoghton, Withnell, Wheelton, Abbey Village, Brindle and Brinscall - all these villages have local schools with footie mad kids. WATR offered to sponsor an Ewood Express built only on the basis it was from outside of BwD, we were never taken up on the proposal nor asked for payment. I do believe an Ewood Express has subsequently been run a couple of times from Hyndburn but this was due to friendships between the different parties involved. Edited 11 hours ago by Mike Graham 1 Quote
Mike Graham Posted 11 hours ago Posted 11 hours ago I should have added that when we challenged the club on the postcodes of those with ST’s they came up with a high figure for BB postcodes and said they were from BwD until we explained many of those with BB postcodes lived outside of BwD. The corrected figures shared with us showed approximately 50% of ST holders were outside of BwD. 1 Quote
RevidgeBlue Posted 11 hours ago Posted 11 hours ago 2 minutes ago, Mike Graham said: I thought it was common knowledge. I am sure Duncan will confirm my statement above. This has been the case for years, we have been told the likes of “there is so much infill in the BwD area that this is our focus before we look elsewhere”. The Community Trust have arrangements with other community trusts in Lancashire not to tread on each others toes - perhaps this will also explain the lack of activity in Rishton, Ossy and Accy alongside that for Chorley, Leyland and local villages such as Samlesbury, Hoghton, Withnell, Wheelton, Abbey Village, Brindle and Brinscall - all these villages have local schools with footie mad kids. WATR offered to sponsor an Ewood Express built only on the basis it was from outside of BwD, we were never taken up on the proposal nor asked for payment. I do believe an Ewood Express has subsequently been run a couple of times from Hyndburn but this was due to friendships between the different parties involved. Absolutely unbelievable. Quote
Mike Graham Posted 11 hours ago Posted 11 hours ago 2 minutes ago, RevidgeBlue said: Absolutely unbelievable. …..but true. 1 Quote
JHRover Posted 11 hours ago Author Posted 11 hours ago 34 minutes ago, Mike Graham said: Perhaps Rovers could try something really novel such as marketing beyond their existing database and even looking beyond the borders of BwD? PNE are running free soccer schools for kids in Chorley this year with, no doubt, some freebie tickets thrown in to entice the youngsters to Dumpdale. This is Chorley FFS……a Rovers stronghold for many years. The Council leader is a rovers fan and the manager of the Westway complex where the sessions are being held is a Rovers fan and a past employee of our Community Trust. The idea of marketing outside BwD has been raised time and time and time again. Rovers and the Community Trust refuse to do any work in PR postcodes as it will upset the arrangements they have with competitor clubs. As the crow flies I live 1 mile from the BwD border and the area was full of Rovers fans - the school kids now get enticed to PNE. We are officially useless, toothless and careless at marketing. Which clown(s) heads this up for the club? All correct but the club have invented a rule that tells them they cannot market Rovers in Hyndburn or South Ribble because those areas 'belong' to Accy Stanley and Preston, and we wouldn't want to go upsetting people would we? We won't even look for sponsors outside of BwD judging by Watson Ramsbottom and Totally Wicked. Totally small time, lazy, yet bizarrely the 'local' obsession is taken by some as a badge of honour or something to be proud of. A conscious decision to save themselves time and effort but ultimately spread across many years, combined with decline and demographic change in Blackburn, WILL be a hugely damaging, potentially fatal move for BRFC. 4 Quote
JHRover Posted 11 hours ago Author Posted 11 hours ago 37 minutes ago, RevidgeBlue said: "Arrangements we have with competitor clubs" WTF? What's that then? "We won't stray outside BWD, you do whatever the hell you like?" Sorry, not wanting to shoot the messenger, never heard this before and I can't quite believe it. A close relative of mine worked for the Community Trust several years ago and he was working to the same policy. I say several years ago we are probably talking 10+ years ago, which is a long time in football to totally neglect and ignore a huge swathe of your support base. Quote
RevidgeBlue Posted 11 hours ago Posted 11 hours ago 21 minutes ago, Mike Graham said: …..but true. They sound like rival mobsters trying to protect their own patch of turf. Not legitimate business people. You should be allowed to operate wherever you want and may the best man win. Im guessing these reciprocal arrangements don't apply to Liverpool/City/Man Ure/Everton etc? 1 Quote
Moderation Lead K-Hod Posted 10 hours ago Moderation Lead Posted 10 hours ago 29 minutes ago, Mike Graham said: I should have added that when we challenged the club on the postcodes of those with ST’s they came up with a high figure for BB postcodes and said they were from BwD until we explained many of those with BB postcodes lived outside of BwD. The corrected figures shared with us showed approximately 50% of ST holders were outside of BwD. Shows how absolutely clueless they are. I’ve pretty much always lived in BB postcodes, but none of those the ones I’ve lived in, are in BWD 😅. 2 Quote
Mike Graham Posted 10 hours ago Posted 10 hours ago Try asking what the ST marketing budget is…..they don’t have one!! Everything is based on the existing database (which had to be cleansed as it was not DP compliant). They will not do any printed material or leaflets due to the cost and the “green” agenda. We explained the massive new estates being built around Blackburn (Green Hill area and more) and the need to leaflet them; we even offered to help with the leafleting. I will let you guess at the response*. *It was SFA Quote
Mike Graham Posted 10 hours ago Posted 10 hours ago (edited) 12 minutes ago, RevidgeBlue said: They sound like rival mobsters trying to protect their own patch of turf. Not legitimate business people. You should be allowed to operate wherever you want and may the best man win. Im guessing these reciprocal arrangements don't apply to Liverpool/City/Man Ure/Everton etc? Sadly our ‘mobsters’ do not support Rovers - they support a close rival although I cannot and will not claim that is their reason for keeping away from Chorley and South Ribble both with villages on the BwD border. Edited 10 hours ago by Mike Graham Quote
SIMON GARNERS 194 Posted 10 hours ago Posted 10 hours ago 1 hour ago, Mike Graham said: I thought it was common knowledge. I am sure Duncan will confirm my statement above. This has been the case for years, we have been told the likes of “there is so much infill in the BwD area that this is our focus before we look elsewhere”. The Community Trust have arrangements with other community trusts in Lancashire not to tread on each others toes - perhaps this will also explain the lack of activity in Rishton, Ossy and Accy alongside that for Chorley, Leyland and local villages such as Samlesbury, Hoghton, Withnell, Wheelton, Abbey Village, Brindle and Brinscall - all these villages have local schools with footie mad kids. WATR offered to sponsor an Ewood Express built only on the basis it was from outside of BwD, we were never taken up on the proposal nor asked for payment. I do believe an Ewood Express has subsequently been run a couple of times from Hyndburn but this was due to friendships between the different parties involved. They are simply not interested in fan involvement with initiatives...its either our way or the highway is the mantra. Its just horrible the way we are being run,just horrible. 2 Quote
Tomphil2 Posted 9 hours ago Posted 9 hours ago 3 hours ago, London blue said: Season tickets sales down but revenue from them up. Exactly what they want. Fewer fans = less overhead = more profit. With the added bonus of fewer people to vent anger towards them. Win win. That's been the policy for a decade. Quote
Gav Posted 9 hours ago Posted 9 hours ago (edited) 2 hours ago, Mike Graham said: Perhaps Rovers could try something really novel such as marketing beyond their existing database and even looking beyond the borders of BwD? PNE are running free soccer schools for kids in Chorley this year with, no doubt, some freebie tickets thrown in to entice the youngsters to Dumpdale. This is Chorley FFS……a Rovers stronghold for many years. The Council leader is a rovers fan and the manager of the Westway complex where the sessions are being held is a Rovers fan and a past employee of our Community Trust. The idea of marketing outside BwD has been raised time and time and time again. Rovers and the Community Trust refuse to do any work in PR postcodes as it will upset the arrangements they have with competitor clubs. As the crow flies I live 1 mile from the BwD border and the area was full of Rovers fans - the school kids now get enticed to PNE. Just another reason why we need rid of this these rats, its much bigger than just the first 11. Our fanbase is strong, but it won't be forever with bonkers decisions like this ☝️ VENKYS OUT - NOTHING ELSE MATTERS. Hope you're well by the way Mike 👍 Edited 9 hours ago by Gav 3 Quote
Mattyblue Posted 9 hours ago Posted 9 hours ago Hang on, so they want to focus on BwD (why, it's an arbitrarily drawn border from 1974, what possible relevance does that have to modern fanbases, but anyway)... but they don't even know what postcodes are in BwD to start with? What an absolute bloody rabble they are down there, beggars belief they actually try to masquerade as professionals, as 'Head of' this, 'Head of' that. Complete joke from top to bottom. 7 Quote
Mike Graham Posted 7 hours ago Posted 7 hours ago 1 hour ago, Mattyblue said: Hang on, so they want to focus on BwD (why, it's an arbitrarily drawn border from 1974, what possible relevance does that have to modern fanbases, but anyway)... but they don't even know what postcodes are in BwD to start with? What an absolute bloody rabble they are down there, beggars belief they actually try to masquerade as professionals, as 'Head of' this, 'Head of' that. Complete joke from top to bottom. Some of these manager titles will fit a treat down at Ewood Towers: - Head of the Lower Bowl - Thinker of Deep Thoughts - Chief Visionary (aka Chief Vision Officer) - Brand Warrior - Chief Amazement Officer - Artistic Ninja - Organiser of Random Thoughts and Erratic Activity Quote
RoversTilliDie Posted 6 hours ago Posted 6 hours ago 8,700 season tickets sold so far, according to the LT. Was it around 10,000 sold last season, and averaging 12-13 thousand attendances. That means attendances will be around 10- 11 thousand for the coming season. Unless there's a dramatic surge for season tickets in the last week before kick off. Quote
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