Mattyblue Posted April 14 Posted April 14 Both missed my point, of course it’s an interesting fact, as is the general one that we can’t beat newly promoted sides away - points to a weak mentality throughout the club. My point was to not let it distract from the overall issue that regardless of who we did/didn’t beat earlier in the season, it is the decisions made by the regime that has caused this collapse, not that we didn’t beat this team or that, on the flip side we had ‘no right’ to beat Leeds, but we did, so three points there to negate Plymouth, we were 5th, because we had earnt it, and then look what happened… 1 Quote
JHRover Posted April 14 Posted April 14 30 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said: JDT knew the middle that budget was cut and the project changed that summer due to Venkys's Indian problems.. https://www.lancashiretelegraph.co.uk/sport/25031314.tomasson-opens-blackburn-exit-brutal-budget-cuts/ Eustace left basically from reports and info out there cos he didn't the players he wanted and more of a say in transfers Are those 'Venkys Indian problems' the same ones that according to you aren't anything to do with Rovers and to which Waggott and Suhail have both said aren't preventing the owners sending money over? 2 Quote
chaddyrovers Posted April 14 Posted April 14 8 minutes ago, JHRover said: Are those 'Venkys Indian problems' the same ones that according to you aren't anything to do with Rovers and to which Waggott and Suhail have both said aren't preventing the owners sending money over? The court case isn't about Rovers is it which was point I was making(which you ignored) tho indirectly it has affected us if they don't send the money over which is why Wharton was sold to fund that gap Quote
davulsukur Posted April 14 Posted April 14 11 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said: The court case isn't about Rovers is it which was point I was making(which you ignored) tho indirectly it has affected us if they don't send the money over which is why Wharton was sold to fund that gap Absolutely infuriating when it's said out loud. "Our owners had to sell the best player our academy has ever produced and a generational talent, to keep the lights on due to their own incompetence. " As always though, it's the fans that suffer. It's ok though, we got 44 appearances out of him (not even a full fucking season in the championship) 8 Quote
Tomphil2 Posted April 14 Posted April 14 And we'd have been looking at a damn sight more than 18 million before add ons by now if he'd stayed. Absolute clown show running and owning this club and to think poor old Gregg the Egg thought he would be getting some spends from it as well. Instead he got his p45. 1 Quote
davulsukur Posted April 14 Posted April 14 2 hours ago, ... said: What does 'to keep the lights on' really mean? As I understand it, the owners were not able to send any money whatsoever at one point when the court case began (as confirmed by Suhail), and as a result couldn't send their usual wedge of cash over, which would be needed to pay the clubs (monthly? weekly?) outgoings such as, players wages/staff wages/utilities/transfer instalments etc etc. The club needed a cash injection to cover us for the season, and so we went begging to Prem clubs to take Wharton off us, at a cut price, presumably with a reasonable upfront payment to cover the shortfall the owners would have put in. I remember Steve Parish on talksport talking about the deal, saying something along the lines of "Blackburn needed the money" but i can't remember. 2 Quote
philipl Posted April 14 Author Posted April 14 Blackburn Rovers - where 3 managers have sacked the club in the last decade. 3 Quote
ElTwis Posted April 14 Posted April 14 4 hours ago, ... said: So what is our actual route to playoff as it stands now? Obviously we need to win now, who needs to lose, draw above us? Currently at work so can't spend too much time checking I've been forced to have a little look at this in comparison to previous years. The trend is basically for the pack contending for 5th/6th to slip up a bit over the last 4/5 games which is why you sometimes see a team come from nowhere. If Rovers actually won the next 4 tthen think we would end up very close to 6th as Coventry, West brom and boro all have to play each other and we play millwall and Watford. Coventry losing tonight would be a really good start and goal difference doubtlessly would come into play. A lot of ifs, buts and maybes though and not really worth thinking about unless we win the next 2. Quote
... Posted April 14 Posted April 14 12 minutes ago, ElTwis said: I've been forced to have a little look at this in comparison to previous years. The trend is basically for the pack contending for 5th/6th to slip up a bit over the last 4/5 games which is why you sometimes see a team come from nowhere. If Rovers actually won the next 4 tthen think we would end up very close to 6th as Coventry, West brom and boro all have to play each other and we play millwall and Watford. Coventry losing tonight would be a really good start and goal difference doubtlessly would come into play. A lot of ifs, buts and maybes though and not really worth thinking about unless we win the next 2. Always need try to find some reason to make a game watchable, be hilarious if we actually got there Quote
rigger Posted April 14 Posted April 14 8 minutes ago, ... said: Always need try to find some reason to make a game watchable, be hilarious if we actually got there The Rovers way, would be to actually make the play-offs, then get mullered in the semi-final. 2 Quote
Mattyblue Posted April 14 Posted April 14 No the Rovers way these days is to be up there until it got serious in the new year, fall away, then have a small bounce and have the slightest of slight chances by the end - did it with Bowyer, TM, JDT, so why not again… Quote
chaddyrovers Posted April 14 Posted April 14 49 minutes ago, ElTwis said: I've been forced to have a little look at this in comparison to previous years. The trend is basically for the pack contending for 5th/6th to slip up a bit over the last 4/5 games which is why you sometimes see a team come from nowhere. If Rovers actually won the next 4 tthen think we would end up very close to 6th as Coventry, West brom and boro all have to play each other and we play millwall and Watford. Coventry losing tonight would be a really good start and goal difference doubtlessly would come into play. A lot of ifs, buts and maybes though and not really worth thinking about unless we win the next 2. Just get as many points as possible and see where we are after 46 games Quote
chaddyrovers Posted April 14 Posted April 14 Ohashi isn't out of the game yet according to Rovers x Quote
onlyonejackwalker Posted April 14 Posted April 14 41 minutes ago, ElTwis said: I've been forced to have a little look at this in comparison to previous years. The trend is basically for the pack contending for 5th/6th to slip up a bit over the last 4/5 games which is why you sometimes see a team come from nowhere. If Rovers actually won the next 4 tthen think we would end up very close to 6th as Coventry, West brom and boro all have to play each other and we play millwall and Watford. Coventry losing tonight would be a really good start and goal difference doubtlessly would come into play. A lot of ifs, buts and maybes though and not really worth thinking about unless we win the next 2. It's done and dusted. Shame really, but other than the odd game we have been very poor from mid-December onwards. Too many players overworked, too many injuries, too many individual errors, culminating in too many below par performances and too many dropped points. Easily our best chance for success as the league has been so poor this season. Our biggest problem being the lack of goals we have scored. I can't see it, but i wouldn't mind both Millwall and Bristol City getting in the play offs at the expense of Boro, Coventry, West Brom etc. 2 Quote
aletheia Posted April 14 Posted April 14 2 minutes ago, onlyonejackwalker said: Our biggest problem being the lack of goals we have scored. The regime I would say. 7 Quote
simongarnerisgod Posted April 14 Posted April 14 at least there is something to play for on friday,both sides need 3 points Quote
M_B Posted April 14 Posted April 14 6 hours ago, JHRover said: If we won our next 3 and by some fortuitous turn of events had a slight chance of the play-offs come the last day I am sure that the 'powers that be' would come up with a way of ensuring we didn't get there. The club don't want the play-offs remember. Waggott confirmed this in his interview in 2023, JDT learned this, so did Eustace. Given that it's away at Sheff United, it would probably take care of itself. Quote
rigger Posted April 14 Posted April 14 13 minutes ago, M_B said: Given that it's away at Sheff United, it would probably take care of itself. similar to Leeds and Leicester last season Quote
superniko Posted April 14 Posted April 14 1 hour ago, M_B said: Given that it's away at Sheff United, it would probably take care of itself. They’ll probably do a Huddersfield and put a complete reserve team out to be fair. Still wouldn’t fancy our chances to beat them though. Quote
M_B Posted April 14 Posted April 14 1 hour ago, rigger said: similar to Leeds and Leicester last season Nah, we needed to win them. It isn't often, if ever, I'd want us to lose, but if it means the Dingles miss out, I'll probably take it. Quote
WacoRover Posted April 14 Posted April 14 11 hours ago, sharpysharps86 said: Hopefully Ohashi is available, as it'd be a real shame to see his season end early after hitting a bit of form. Predicted team: Toth JRC Batth Hyam Ribeiro Travis Tronstad Dolan Cantwell Hedges Ohashi If Ohashi is out then Gueye to come in. I'll go for a 1-1 draw. EDIT: Gah, just seen on the summer transfer thread that Ohashi's season is done apparently. That’s a respectable 11. The shakiest is possibly Hedges, but given the options, he’s probably the best we can do. Millwall might be our final shot at getting a win. But I think your 1-1 prediction is dead on. Quote
Blue Greyhound Posted April 14 Posted April 14 Hull equalise against Coventry, 6th place remains 7 points above us as it stands Quote
ElTwis Posted April 14 Posted April 14 59 minutes ago, Blue Greyhound said: Hull equalise against Coventry, 6th place remains 7 points above us as it stands Not to push this too much as I know its not realistic BUT in 2013 after gameweek 42 6th place was on 63pts so the same parallel exists as it did for gameweek 41. 2013 of course was the last time 68pts earnt a playoff spot. Just keeps a little bit of interest! Quote
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