Championship Season 25-26

[chaddyrovers]

2 hours ago, Waggy76 said:

Wilder returning to Bramall Lane , you cannot script football !

Wilder is crazy going back there. I think they should have gone Mowbray personally

[K-Hod]

3 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

Wilder is crazy going back there. I think they should have gone Mowbray personally

Why would they want to appoint Mowbray, if they want to get promoted?

[chaddyrovers]

3 minutes ago, K-Hod said:

Why would they want to appoint Mowbray, if they want to get promoted?

Mowbray rebuilt Rovers and did an excellent job, I think Wilder is crazy for going back again but its his club so that's probably why

[DE.]

What a colossal waste of money that was. Still, Selles had one of the worst starts I think I've ever seen at a club that was supposed to be in the promotion picture. After Friday's debacle they didn't have much choice. Wilder is the obvious choice to stabilise things, as by all accounts he left on good terms and has essentially been on a well paid break for a few months. 

Edited 2 hours ago by DE.

[K-Hod]

5 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

Mowbray rebuilt Rovers and did an excellent job, I think Wilder is crazy for going back again but its his club so that's probably why

That’s irrelevant to the point I’m making though.
Mowbray hasn’t got a recent track record of being promoted from this league, Chris Wilder has.

I wouldn’t go back either, but money talks and I imagine it will feed his ego too.

[chaddyrovers]

1 minute ago, K-Hod said:

That’s irrelevant to the point I’m making though.
Mowbray hasn’t got a recent track record of being promoted from this league, Chris Wilder has.

I wouldn’t go back either, but money talks and I imagine it will feed his ego too.

Wilder hasn't apart from Sheffield United just like Mowbray with WBA. 1 each isn't it?

[K-Hod]

1 minute ago, chaddyrovers said:

Wilder hasn't apart from Sheffield United just like Mowbray with WBA. 1 each isn't it?

But when was Mowbray with WBA? 
Best part of 20 years back?

[chaddyrovers]

Just now, K-Hod said:

But when was Mowbray with WBA? 
Best part of 20 years back?

Does it matter? Still on his managerial CV isn't it? 

[smiller14]

Just now, chaddyrovers said:

Does it matter? Still on his managerial CV isn't it? 

By that logic Hughes should be getting poached by a team chasing Europe due to doing it with us.

[jim mk2]

The Blades were my surefire bet for promotion this season - I think I even had them winning the league. Shows how much I know 😄

Selles has turned wine into water and was obviously a poor appointment but Wilder's return (again) is bizarre and is a poor reflection on the Sheff Utd owners 

[smiller14]

South coast derby on. This might be the kiss of death but Pompey are taking the game to Southampton and look the better side. Not much to fear in the league this season!

[chaddyrovers]

9 minutes ago, smiller14 said:

By that logic Hughes should be getting poached by a team chasing Europe due to doing it with us.

Its was K-Hod point not mine. 

I would give Mowbray the job cos of the rebuilding job he did here and Sunderland who he got into the playoffs. 

[roversfan99]

1 hour ago, rovers11 said:

An early assessment of the season so far is that the majority of our new signings are pretty good and more than capable at this level.

We are not as bad as we think and look to be on course for a mid table finish. 

Lots of dross in this league and certainly looks to be 3 worse teams than us. 

Goals and creativity remain a concern so scoring the first goal in games will be crucial. 

Majority? Id say it is a split based on the very little we have seen. Alebiosu, Miroshita, McLoughlin, Miller and Gudjohnsen, good signs to varying degrees. TGH I suspect will be a useful squad man. Tavares, De Neve, Henriksson, big question marks ane Baradji a waste of time.

But either way, our issues wont be apparent 5 games into the season as our first 11 is competitive and that has always been the case. Its when the games tick by, the injuries mount up and a lack of depth is exposed.

[smiller14]

5 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

Its was K-Hod point not mine. 

I would give Mowbray the job cos of the rebuilding job he did here and Sunderland who he got into the playoffs. 

My point is Wilder has a more recent record of promotion, so think his point remains valid. 

Not sure I would be overly enamoured with either. Wilder knows the club and only left 10 minutes ago but it's pretty uninspiring and suggests a club with no strategy or plan. 

 

 

 

 

[JHRover]

32 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

Does it matter? Still on his managerial CV isn't it? 

Why not appoint Coyle then? Or George Burley, Nigel Worthington or Micky Adams?

[DE.]

Mowbray's last gig saw him take a WBA side in contention for playoffs and get sacked three months later with it being all but impossible for them to get into the top six. We repeatedly saw him do this with us as well. He did well during his first season Sunderland but that aside, I don't think he's the man to appoint if you're looking to get into the playoffs, let alone get promoted. On recent evidence Wilder is a smarter choice, especially as he knows the club extremely well. 

If Sheff Utd's goal was simply to stablise and finish top half/mid table then yes, Mowbray would be an OK appointment. 

[JHRover]

90+ points, 2 points deducted, play off final, arguably unlucky to lose late on to Sunderland.

If that had happened at Ewood the manager would be given years in the job off the back of it.

Wilder clearly the best man for that job, the new owners there very foolish but falling for the laptop / football manager spiel like so many others have in 'modern' football apparently needing a 'head coach' and 'structure' and 'alignment' but in doing so have cost untold time and money.

No. You need to just support a good manager when he's done well. Bit like us with Eustace.

[roversfan99]

I think that West Brom appointment was a sentimental and emotional decision from all concerned. Mowbray had just been given the all clear from such a major illness, it never felt right or likely to work out and didnt. 

He obviously isnt as poor a manager as made out on here. He did a good job here and did a better job at Sunderland. Both clubs werent as equipped to expect to finish in the top 6 like Sheff United are.

But I certainly cant see how he would be a standout candidate now, especially considering his recent illness. Wouldnt make sense to me.

Wilder is the obvious and most sensible shout but there is a lot of water under the bridge, and you do wonder if that would cause issues. Also, the squad has had a big overhaul since last season.

[roversfan99]

4 hours ago, chaddyrovers said:

 

 

5 games in. I presume you wish relegation upon them and consider it a disgrace?

[roversfan99]

6 hours ago, norwichblue said:

Hyam an unused substitute in Wrexham’s defeat

They won 2 nil at Millwall before the break so I suspect he felt obliged to keep them the same.

[rigger]

8 minutes ago, roversfan99 said:

They won 2 nil at Millwall before the break so I suspect he felt obliged to keep them the same.

A good manager plays his best team, not who he is obliged to pick. Sentimentality counts for nowt.

[chaddyrovers]

45 minutes ago, smiller14 said:

My point is Wilder has a more recent record of promotion, so think his point remains valid. 

Not sure I would be overly enamoured with either. Wilder knows the club and only left 10 minutes ago but it's pretty uninspiring and suggests a club with no strategy or plan. 

I can understand your points here

I totally agreed with your last point

18 minutes ago, roversfan99 said:

5 games in. I presume you wish relegation upon them and consider it a disgrace?

As I said before the owners made a bad decision getting rid of Wilder, no surprise they have panic already and got back to Wilder, more surprised Wilder has even entertain their approach 

[Tyrone Shoelaces]

Anybody watch the Southampton v Poersmouth derby ? Zzzzzzzzz. Like watching the Bay Horse v the Red Lion.

[DE.]

27 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

I can understand your points here

I totally agreed with your last point

As I said before the owners made a bad decision getting rid of Wilder, no surprise they have panic already and got back to Wilder, more surprised Wilder has even entertain their approach 

By the sounds of it he left on good terms, and he's obviously a Sheff Utd man, so from his pov he got a nicely paid holiday and likely a decent raise to return. Less pressure on him to get promotion now too, as he's got to try and clear up the mess that's been left behind. Ultimately it's the owners who will have egg on their face no matter what happens. 

[philipl]

24 minutes ago, Tyrone Shoelaces said:

Anybody watch the Southampton v Poersmouth derby ? Zzzzzzzzz. Like watching the Bay Horse v the Red Lion.

First non-Rovers Championship football I have seen this season.

Watched from my sick bed and now feel worse.

Couldn't believe how bad it was.

Of course both will be inspired playing against us but that was abysmal.