January Transfer Needs

[chaddyrovers]

7 hours ago, roversfan99 said:

I prefer to say what I think we need rather than what I think may happen. Pickering is well down the list of players I would be keen to move on.

That's what my post is about what we need which is moving on Gueye, Carter, Garrett(sadly), Tyjon(cos he won't sign a pro contract), De Neve on loan/permanent and one of Ribeiro or Pickering leaving the other as back up to Hedges as LWB(I would keep Pickering personally and let Ribeiro go sadly)

That's give you 4 spots to bring new signings and register them if over 21. A striker is our must urgent need, a centre back and right wing back. 

7 hours ago, roversfan99 said:

Lyndon Dykes? Ideal?

He could play the focus point role up front like Gudjohnsen did, he is match fit and knows this league. We need players who won't need much adaption time. That's the type of signings we need, looking overseas will probably be cheaper but will they be ready unless they have experience of playing in England 

7 hours ago, roversfan99 said:

And also, you correct me a week ago by going on about this lovely committee we have that decides on signings when I criticised Gestede. Now its down just to him.

Is the committee doing the transfer negotiations? of course not, That's what Gestede's job is the head of football operations, That's is where your point above is wrong and you clearly don't understand how football works in you think a transfer committee is doing football transfers negotiations. We have 4 people on a committee/group who decide on transfers in Ismael, Gestede, Cairney and Owen. 

[KentExile]

7 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

We have 4 people on a committee/group who decide on transfers in Ismael, Gestede, Cairney and Owen. 

 

That number may have increased

 

https://www.linkedin.com/in/raphael-scherrer-aa3611b1/

• • Responsible for next generation recruitment (U18-U23) in Europe and Africa

     

     

    Whilst that would mainly be academy recruitment, there does look to be some overlap

Edited 5 hours ago by KentExile

[chaddyrovers]

2 minutes ago, KentExile said:

 

That number may have increased

 

https://www.linkedin.com/in/raphael-scherrer-aa3611b1/

• • Responsible for next generation recruitment (U18-U23) in Europe and Africa

You would expect majority of the work would be bringing in players for the under 21/18 whilst one of two might be first team squad. 

Edited 5 hours ago by chaddyrovers

[philipl]

No idea what we are recruiting for this January. Avoiding relegation? A play off push? Injury cover? Next summer's transition? Agents' benevolence fund?

[davulsukur]

9 hours ago, Exiled_Rover said:

Litherland clearly isn't a RWB - he's providing the same contribution at RWB that Miller or Carter could. We need an actually attacking force there to backup Alebiosu.

If we were pushing on as a club I'd target a backup RWB, a starting LWB and a starting CF in January - shipping out Pickering, Ribeiro and Gueye and committing to this 3 at the back system.

We're obviously content to tread water so that won't happen.

I agree with you on getting a RWB, Litherland isn't the long term solution but I think they will be looking at a LWB, CB (O'Riordan) and a striker.

I think they'll just stick with Litherland until Alebiosu is back and address the situation in the summer.

[KentExile]

2 minutes ago, davulsukur said:

I think they'll just stick with Litherland until Alebiosu is back and address the situation in the summer.

Is that code for "sell Alebiosu and replace him with someone cheaper?" 😉 

Edited 3 hours ago by KentExile

[davulsukur]

Just now, KentExile said:

Is that code for sell Alebiosu and replace him with someone cheaper? 😉 

Yes.

[Comfortably numb]

4 minutes ago, KentExile said:

Is that code for "sell Alebiosu and replace him with someone cheaper?" 😉 

They would pretty much need to be a free to be much cheaper ! 

Seriously though he has proved that quality is available for little or no money with the right recruitment. 

[KentExile]

Just now, Comfortably numb said:

They would pretty much need to be a free to be much cheaper ! 

Seriously though he has proved that quality is available for little or no money with the right recruitment. 

Yes, but that same little or no money may also get you a De Neve

[Comfortably numb]

Just done a comparison of incomings and outgoings to see how people think we have ended up stronger or not after the summer window.

Considering the money spent overall I think it's pretty favourable though I'm sure others will disagree 

One thing it has certainly done is bring the average age down considerably

 

Edited 3 hours ago by Comfortably numb

[KentExile]

10 minutes ago, Comfortably numb said:

Just done a comparison of incomings and outgoings to see how people think we have ended up stronger or not after the summer window.

Considering the money spent overall I think it's pretty favourable though I'm sure others will disagree 

 

I would include Beck & Leonard in the "who was replaced column"

 

Alebiosu - Brittain

Miller - Hyam

McLoughlin - Batth

Baradji - Travis

Tavares - Buckley

Gudjohnsen - Leonard

Henriksson - Weimann

TGH - JRC

Morishita - Dolan

De Neve - Beck

Edited 3 hours ago by KentExile

[Comfortably numb]

6 minutes ago, KentExile said:

Alebiosu - Brittain

Miller - Hyam

McLoughlin - Batth

Baradji - Travis

Tavares - Buckley

Gudjohnsen - Leonard

Henriksson - Weimann

TGH - JRC

Morishita - Dolan

De Neve - Beck

👍

[Comfortably numb]

19 minutes ago, KentExile said:

I would include Beck & Leonard in the "who was replaced column"

 

Alebiosu - Brittain

Miller - Hyam

McLoughlin - Batth

Baradji - Travis

Tavares - Buckley

Gudjohnsen - Leonard

Henriksson - Weimann

TGH - JRC

Morishita - Dolan

De Neve - Beck

Thanks, knew I'd forget somebody!

[sharpysharps86]

1 hour ago, philipl said:

No idea what we are recruiting for this January. Avoiding relegation? A play off push? Injury cover? Next summer's transition? Agents' benevolence fund?

Injury cover seems the most likely. Rovers don't do long term plans these days.

[MarkBRFC]

The recruitment will be as cheap as possible, thats the only gaurentee.

[Comfortably numb]

1 hour ago, KentExile said:

Yes, but that same little or no money may also get you a De Neve

True, it's a gamble, but if only two or three come off then for  the recruitment team it's job done as that's the instructions they're working under

[sharpysharps86]

Impossible to try and guess who Rovers may or may not go for next month. We don't tend to hear who's coming in until the last minute anyway. However, its clear Gueye is being positioned for a move away, and with Gudjohnsen injured it is absolutely crucial that they bring in a couple of forwards...unless Henriksson suddenly transforms into the next Gyokeres, which seems pretty unlikely!

CB cover also a must, and if they intend to move Pickering on then a LWB cover for Hedges as well. De Neve simply cannot be put back into the team in that position, and I think Ismael probably knows that now.

With Montgomery, Morishita and Tavares all injured then another CM feels needed too. An injury to Tronstad would be devastating, and its really concerning that we'll be going into next season without him.

If Litherland continues to do well then I see less of a need for RWB cover while Alebiosu is away. I'd rather they focussed on more attacking positions. If he (or Alebiosu at AFCON) got injured however, then that changes the landscape.

Awkward month ahead, as usual.

[roversfan99]

3 hours ago, chaddyrovers said:

That's what my post is about what we need which is moving on Gueye, Carter, Garrett(sadly), Tyjon(cos he won't sign a pro contract), De Neve on loan/permanent and one of Ribeiro or Pickering leaving the other as back up to Hedges as LWB(I would keep Pickering personally and let Ribeiro go sadly)

That's give you 4 spots to bring new signings and register them if over 21. A striker is our must urgent need, a centre back and right wing back. 

He could play the focus point role up front like Gudjohnsen did, he is match fit and knows this league. We need players who won't need much adaption time. That's the type of signings we need, looking overseas will probably be cheaper but will they be ready unless they have experience of playing in England 

Is the committee doing the transfer negotiations? of course not, That's what Gestede's job is the head of football operations, That's is where your point above is wrong and you clearly don't understand how football works in you think a transfer committee is doing football transfers negotiations. We have 4 people on a committee/group who decide on transfers in Ismael, Gestede, Cairney and Owen. 

Does Gudjohnsen just play a "focus point role?"

His main job is to score goals. Dykes might have played a lot in the league but he has never really learnt how to score very often in it.

And thanks for your further patronising comments regarding our well structured and harmonious transfer committee.

[Tyrone Shoelaces]

Gudjohnsen and Dykes ? Two different types of strikers. They might be a good pair, one doing the donkey work and the other scoring the goals but we all know which one would be scoring the goals.

[wilsdenrover]

What happens if two of our committee want a player and two of them don’t?

What skill/experience does Gestede have in contract negotiations?

Why are some people unable to use critical thinking?

Edited 14 minutes ago by wilsdenrover

[chaddyrovers]

1 hour ago, roversfan99 said:

Does Gudjohnsen just play a "focus point role?"

Gudjohnsen stays centre of the pitch, has decent link up play, whilst Ohashi looks to run the channels. I think Dykes could play a similar role to Gudjohnsen. 

1 hour ago, roversfan99 said:

His main job is to score goals. Dykes might have played a lot in the league but he has never really learnt how to score very often in it.

Dykes roughly average 1 goal every 4.5 games at QPR so that's 10 goals a season. If he could come in a get 5 goals within 15 games period then I would be be happy. 

Everytime with yourself, you are so quick to slagged off and moan about people's suggestions whilst coming up with none of your own and when asked, we get the standard line, I'm not a scout, i don't know on fees involved but I will continue to moan at others for their suggestions. 

1 hour ago, roversfan99 said:

And thanks for your further patronising comments regarding our well structured and harmonious transfer committee.

Nothing patronising in my post but yet again, just posted the same old comments from you. You didn't read my comments and you misunderstood who does the transfer negotiations otherwise you wouldn't have posted what you did. 

No-one comment about its well structure or harmonious but you throw these comments in for some unknown reasons 

[Wheelton Blue]

We've got to bring some goals into the side; we don't score enough, ergo we don't win enough games.

Failure to addess that and we'll be nervously stuck around the bottom 6 for the remainder I fear.

[simongarnerisgod]

1 minute ago, Wheelton Blue said:

We've got to bring some goals into the side; we don't score enough, ergo we don't win enough games.

Failure to addess that and we'll be nervously stuck around the bottom 6 for the remainder I fear.

it`s blindingly clear we`ll be in the bottom six come may,it`s all part of the project innit,the signings in january will be an indication that the club will not be allowed to progress

[KentExile]

3 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

Dykes roughly average 1 goal every 4.5 games at QPR so that's 10 goals a season. If he could come in a get 5 goals within 15 games period then I would be be happy. 

 

or he has scored 7 in 54 for Birmingham, which included a year playing for possibly the best funded League 1 team in history who walked the league at a canter.  add to that he is now in his 30s, the signs point to a decline on what was not a prolific record in the first place

[simongarnerisgod]

there is no way lyndon dykes is taking a pay cut to come here,he would improve our set pieces though,guaranteed to get his head on them