Ghost7 Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 9 minutes ago, RevidgeBlue said: Not a chance. Yeah no chance, 6 months left of his deal and his club wanted rid. 1 Quote
alcd Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 1 hour ago, B16Rover said: Norton cuffey now gone to Inter. Think that's the trigger for Alebiousu. When's Litherland fit? Next month. Quote
roversfan99 Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago Not really any suggestion of some of the senior players who arent good enough leaving before the deadline. Henriksson, woeful player unable to make matchday squads at the moment. De Neve, pathetic excuse of a footballer. Tavares, back in a couple of weeks, not offering anything. Ribeiro, cant make squads, still here. Kargbo, waste of time. Are we going to have another mess of leaving senior players unregistered having presumably not pre warned them? 1 Quote
Leonard Venkhater Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 1 minute ago, roversfan99 said: Not really any suggestion of some of the senior players who arent good enough leaving before the deadline. Henriksson, woeful player unable to make matchday squads at the moment. De Neve, pathetic excuse of a footballer. Tavares, back in a couple of weeks, not offering anything. Ribeiro, cant make squads, still here. Kargbo, waste of time. Are we going to have another mess of leaving senior players unregistered having presumably not pre warned them? Well, if we do persist in appointing novices into key positions, we can't be surprised, can we? 3 Quote
scotchrover Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago (edited) Can someone tell me why Gestede’s being allowed to spend, after signing some utter s*%te over summer, but Eustace and JDT (and Mowbray when we were sat in the top 6) weren’t ? Edited 1 hour ago by scotchrover 6 Quote
Leonard Venkhater Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 1 minute ago, scotchrover said: Can someone tell me why Gestede’s being allowed to spend, after signing some utter s*%te over summer, but Eustace and JDT (and Mowbray when we were sat in the top 6) weren’t ? Maddening, isn't it... 3 Quote
KentExile Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago (edited) 4 minutes ago, scotchrover said: Can someone tell me why Gestede’s being allowed to spend, after signing some utter s*%te over summer, but Eustace and JDT (and Mowbray when we were sat in the top 6) weren’t ? Edited 1 hour ago by KentExile 3 Quote
neophox Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago We're signing a striker that has scored two goals this season to save us. God lord. 1 Quote
Tomphil2 Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago Someone is doing some uber bullshitting that these players are cheap investment signings that will double in value quickly. That's all they are interested in here we are run by agents and the two biggest are the COO and SD In my opinion. 2 Quote
neophox Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago Could it be Henriksson is off tomorrow to a Swedish club? Quote
Popular Post JCRovers Posted 54 minutes ago Popular Post Posted 54 minutes ago Don't think the club paid more than say £200K - £300K for an unwanted player with an expiring contract. Cheap but doesn't fit the bill of what we need (which is a target man). Ridiculous how bad recruitment has been this season, offloading Championship experience and replaced it with a bunch of L1 players basically (De Neve, Henriksson, Tavares). Compare that to Hull who has been under transfer embargo and yet signed better players than us on a free. My prediction for deadline day: - Alebiosu will be sold (reckon £5-6 million will be enough to get him which would basically mean a 10x on what we paid) - We get Cadamarteri I guess but is not what we need - We replace Alebiosu with a last-ditch loan or cheap signing (the other guy from St. Pauli perhaps?) Club is self-destructive in all possible senses: - Self-imposed wage cap, making it tougher to attract good players - Destroyed reputation domestically and made a laughing stock with botched transfer deals (O'Brien, Brierley, McGuire) - Refusal to extend player contracts or not offering enough salary (Hyam, Travis, Dolan, Batth, Brittain) - Refusal to give Eustace any money last January when in a play-off spot but will happily spend reportedly £3 million on a single player (Jorgensen) when in a relegation spot - Refusal to pay compensation to get a good manager / head coach after losing Eustace. Instead, they get a head coach who was out of work for a year (Ismael) - Have an 'acquired taste' of getting players who are not match fit in January window, thus limiting potential impact for remainder of the season (Dennis, Afolayan, Woodrow, Forshaw) - Refusal to reinvest into the squad after big player sales (Szmodics, Armstrong, Wharton) - Refusal to sack head coaches / managers when change is desperately needed. Instead, they rely on head coach / manager to offer resignation themselves or terminate contract by mutual consent to pay as little compensation as possible We keep changing project, direction, formation, style of play and constantly being in a transition phase. But the owners are still the same a**holes they were 15 years ago; nothing has changed behind the scenes in reality. It's all a smokescreen to trick us fans into believing that next time will be any different. 10 Quote
RTM08 Posted 50 minutes ago Posted 50 minutes ago 3 minutes ago, JCRovers said: Don't think the club paid more than say £200K - £300K for an unwanted player with an expiring contract. Cheap but doesn't fit the bill of what we need (which is a target man). Ridiculous how bad recruitment has been this season, offloading Championship experience and replaced it with a bunch of L1 players basically (De Neve, Henriksson, Tavares). Compare that to Hull who has been under transfer embargo and yet signed better players than us on a free. My prediction for deadline day: - Alebiosu will be sold (reckon £5-6 million will be enough to get him which would basically mean a 10x on what we paid) - We get Cadamarteri I guess but is not what we need - We replace Alebiosu with a last-ditch loan or cheap signing (the other guy from St. Pauli perhaps?) Club is self-destructive in all possible senses: - Self-imposed wage cap, making it tougher to attract good players - Destroyed reputation domestically and made a laughing stock with botched transfer deals (O'Brien, Brierley, McGuire) - Refusal to extend player contracts or not offering enough salary (Hyam, Travis, Dolan, Batth, Brittain) - Refusal to give Eustace any money last January when in a play-off spot but will happily spend reportedly £3 million on a single player (Jorgensen) when in a relegation spot - Refusal to pay compensation to get a good manager / head coach after losing Eustace. Instead, they get a head coach who was out of work for a year (Ismael) - Have an 'acquired taste' of getting players who are not match fit in January window, thus limiting potential impact for remainder of the season (Dennis, Afolayan, Woodrow, Forshaw) - Refusal to reinvest into the squad after big player sales (Szmodics, Armstrong, Wharton) - Refusal to sack head coaches / managers when change is desperately needed. Instead, they rely on head coach / manager to offer resignation themselves or terminate contract by mutual consent to pay as little compensation as possible We keep changing project, direction, formation, style of play and constantly being in a transition phase. But the owners are still the same a**holes they were 15 years ago; nothing has changed behind the scenes in reality. It's all a smokescreen to trick us fans into believing that next time will be any different. Every time we transition and overhaul the squad it seems to work out quite nicely for certain agencies I notice... Whatever is going on it's certainly not with the football club in mind at the very least. 1 Quote
Eddie Posted 47 minutes ago Posted 47 minutes ago 20 minutes ago, scotchrover said: Can someone tell me why Gestede’s being allowed to spend, after signing some utter s*%te over summer, but Eustace and JDT (and Mowbray when we were sat in the top 6) weren’t ? In fairness, all reports point to the fact that Mowbray was allowed to spend, but decided not to. When and why aren't things that you can figure out at this club. The reality is that Gestede and Pasha probably hold good sway with the owners. If they wanted to spend more, they probably could. The project that they have presented is one of a 'financially sensible run football club'. They don't talk about success on the pitch. Now, it's possible that this is a directive from the owners, but that would imply that they are seriously invested in anything to do with this football club. The more likely scenario is that P&G have pitched the idea and are justifying everything else by claiming success on the financial front. They're probably also using some Trumpian economics to present those incredible savings and improved revenues. 1 Quote
bigbrandjohn Posted 37 minutes ago Posted 37 minutes ago 1 hour ago, KentExile said: Dapo? where? Are you sure you are not looking at his "market value" on transfermarkt? rather than an actual transfer fee? Maybe I am. This is on Fotbal. It says sum but maybe they missed a zero somewhere Quote
roversfan99 Posted 33 minutes ago Posted 33 minutes ago 11 minutes ago, Eddie said: In fairness, all reports point to the fact that Mowbray was allowed to spend, but decided not to. When and why aren't things that you can figure out at this club. The reality is that Gestede and Pasha probably hold good sway with the owners. If they wanted to spend more, they probably could. The project that they have presented is one of a 'financially sensible run football club'. They don't talk about success on the pitch. Now, it's possible that this is a directive from the owners, but that would imply that they are seriously invested in anything to do with this football club. The more likely scenario is that P&G have pitched the idea and are justifying everything else by claiming success on the financial front. They're probably also using some Trumpian economics to present those incredible savings and improved revenues. "Reports" dont say anything of the sort. They are paying more in fees although how much is guaranteed is anyones guess. And that might be because Suhail has all of the power now. But its all offset by a consistent slashing of the wage budget beyond competitive levels. And a more than usual aggressive shedding of any senior players we had on reasonable wages. Afolayan I suspect will be a nominal fee. Totally out of the picture at St Pauli. Quote
Eddie Posted 28 minutes ago Posted 28 minutes ago 3 minutes ago, roversfan99 said: "Reports" dont say anything of the sort. Except they do. For various reasons, I feel very confident in all of the statements that I made. Quote
roversfan99 Posted 24 minutes ago Posted 24 minutes ago 2 minutes ago, Eddie said: Except they do. For various reasons, I feel very confident in all of the statements that I made. If these "reports" are in the public domain then I have certainly never seen them. I cant believe considering where we are now that people are still willing to credit Venkys for putting forward money and blame staff at the time for declining it. Quote
alcd Posted 23 minutes ago Posted 23 minutes ago 28 minutes ago, JCRovers said: Don't think the club paid more than say £200K - £300K for an unwanted player with an expiring contract. Cheap but doesn't fit the bill of what we need (which is a target man). Ridiculous how bad recruitment has been this season, offloading Championship experience and replaced it with a bunch of L1 players basically (De Neve, Henriksson, Tavares). Compare that to Hull who has been under transfer embargo and yet signed better players than us on a free. My prediction for deadline day: - Alebiosu will be sold (reckon £5-6 million will be enough to get him which would basically mean a 10x on what we paid) - We get Cadamarteri I guess but is not what we need - We replace Alebiosu with a last-ditch loan or cheap signing (the other guy from St. Pauli perhaps?) Club is self-destructive in all possible senses: - Self-imposed wage cap, making it tougher to attract good players - Destroyed reputation domestically and made a laughing stock with botched transfer deals (O'Brien, Brierley, McGuire) - Refusal to extend player contracts or not offering enough salary (Hyam, Travis, Dolan, Batth, Brittain) - Refusal to give Eustace any money last January when in a play-off spot but will happily spend reportedly £3 million on a single player (Jorgensen) when in a relegation spot - Refusal to pay compensation to get a good manager / head coach after losing Eustace. Instead, they get a head coach who was out of work for a year (Ismael) - Have an 'acquired taste' of getting players who are not match fit in January window, thus limiting potential impact for remainder of the season (Dennis, Afolayan, Woodrow, Forshaw) - Refusal to reinvest into the squad after big player sales (Szmodics, Armstrong, Wharton) - Refusal to sack head coaches / managers when change is desperately needed. Instead, they rely on head coach / manager to offer resignation themselves or terminate contract by mutual consent to pay as little compensation as possible We keep changing project, direction, formation, style of play and constantly being in a transition phase. But the owners are still the same a**holes they were 15 years ago; nothing has changed behind the scenes in reality. It's all a smokescreen to trick us fans into believing that next time will be any different. An excellent summary of just some of the disfunction goings on. 1 Quote
davulsukur Posted 23 minutes ago Posted 23 minutes ago 47 minutes ago, scotchrover said: Can someone tell me why Gestede’s being allowed to spend, after signing some utter s*%te over summer, but Eustace and JDT (and Mowbray when we were sat in the top 6) weren’t ? Absolutely infuriating that they are backing a total dud in Ismael but 2 good managers in JDT and Eustace either had the rug pulled from under them or just weren't backed at all. Quote
RTM08 Posted 21 minutes ago Posted 21 minutes ago Just now, davulsukur said: Absolutely infuriating that they are backing a total dud in Ismael but 2 good managers in JDT and Eustace either had the rug pulled from under them or just weren't backed at all. Alternatively, they offered to back them in the same way and they were smart enough to realise that that "backing" would have us in League One very shortly. 3 Quote
Eternal Optimist Posted 18 minutes ago Posted 18 minutes ago At least Dapo can’t be any worse than De Neve, surely? Quote
roversfan99 Posted 17 minutes ago Posted 17 minutes ago They arent backing him in terms of a competitive Championship wage structure though. I suspect we have at best broken even on fees. Not in any way a defence of a terrible manager. 1 Quote
DutchRover Posted 12 minutes ago Posted 12 minutes ago 4 hours ago, alex l said: Leonard re-posted a message where it was said he rejected a new contract, so it seems the club took that as a sign to cash in. Yeah, but that was probably that we offered him £2 a year and no game time.. Quote
DutchRover Posted 11 minutes ago Posted 11 minutes ago 5 minutes ago, roversfan99 said: They arent backing him in terms of a competitive Championship wage structure though. I suspect we have at best broken even on fees. Not in any way a defence of a terrible manager. Nowhere near broken even, but 100% yes on not giving manager Championship squad Quote
islander200 Posted 10 minutes ago Posted 10 minutes ago 6 minutes ago, davulsukur said: Absolutely infuriating that they are backing a total dud in Ismael but 2 good managers in JDT and Eustace either had the rug pulled from under them or just weren't backed at all. Backing? A loan from Brighton that they are probably covering the lads wages for game time , a player for a few hundred k who hasn't been playing regularly and a million to 1.5 bids in for a couple of players of which we will only sign one is hardly Backing More was probably spent last January on kargbo and the loans if we were paying 20k a week of Dennis wages which reports suggested Quote
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