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Duggie didn’t have the pitches that Tugay has, the plastic coated waterproof ball or modern footwear either. Most of Duggies time he was playing on the proverbial mud heap with a waterlogged ball in hideous, heavy footwear with nailed on leather studs. How would Tugay have coped then? sorry, just seen the latest posts.

Disagree Mercer. All keepers make good saves but the best make few mistakes. Kaminski is full of mistakes IMO.

Incidentally, there’s an almost exact same thread on PNE online called that’s me done.

From being a mid table PL club trying to push on, to a Championship club with no ambition other than develop a few academy lads. Seriously, when was the last time ANYONE at the club, did anything but talk the chances of challenging for anything…. Down? If fans don’t have any hope for achieving anything, what hope is there they’ll hang around?

He looks very similar in style to a lot of the midfielders already on the books (although MAYBE better?). Surely we need a central striker that can play the target man.

Don’t forget Blackpool.

I started watching rovers in 1962. We didn’t have an academy then. Rovers A and B teams played at Livesy Branch road. That’s where any trialists had to turn up and show their skills. We brought through many, many top class (some world class) players. At that time there was no freedom of contract so we could keep any player we liked. Because of that I and many others saw promotions, cup finals and what I regard as the best Rovers team ever. Then came freedom of contract. Rovers fell from grace into terrible times. We still developed youth players though. The (huge) difference was that we could never keep any of the best lads. A sniff of the top League and they were off. Since then rovers have still developed youth players - and some superb youth players at that. However, we couldn’t keep them. The argument that we could sell them on and reinvest the profits into good experienced players that could strengthen the team was around then. Some fans believed it, (fell for it) some didn’t. We’ve been trying to run this project for how long? It never got us anywhere. The money we got from the sales was never fully reinvested. It isn’t fully reinvested now under Venkys. when we were a PL club I’d have cringed at the idea of someone like Warnock managing us. I’d bloody jump at it now. Someone who knows the lower leagues inside out, knows players, knows what’s needed to get clubs up and out of this league.

How many championship clubs have owners who’ve put in around £250m over 13 years and are still doing it?

Are you saying the plan is now different? I haven’t heard that interview. How is it different?

We’ve been working from that plan for 13 years now.

Flexible forward. If he could play the number 9 position, that’s where he’d be.

I hope the manager and players read this thread.

Yep. In a word “weak”.

Again, for me the fundamentals are wrong - everywhere. The club…. Long term plans are okay for clubs with budgets that mean they can keep their best players and add to them. In the Championship you have to go for the here and now because the best players won’t hang around. Not easy by any means but it’s the only way. Developing youngsters as your main driving force….. if this is where you’re looking, you’re taking your eyes off the ball. Don’t think for one second that any cash raised will go into building a squad capable of promotion. It never has, never will. It’s a “today doesn’t really matter” approach. Completely wrong. on the field currently…… 13 defeats say the fundamental of being hard to beat isn’t there. It’s nowhere near to being there. For me, there’s very little to make me believe we are being run in anything like a manner that will bring success. Sorry.

It’s the reason they sacked Allardyce and sold an entire Premier league squad. Blame the Walker Trustees. That’s how they sold the club.

First thing any team, in any league has to do is become hard to beat. It’s the basis, it’s the fundamental starting point for any side. we’ve lost 13 games so far. Only 2 clubs have lost more - and they’ve only lost one more. They are the two teams at the bottom of the league. What does that tell me? It tells me there is a massive rebuilding job to do. Who’s going to do it?

Weak as p***

Someone explain what’s Gallaghers role in this team? What is he supposed to be doing?

We need some “real men”.

Such a physically weak squad. No one need fear this rovers side.

Are Rotherham top of the championship?

For me two new players in the right positions would make a huge difference. Firstly a central midfielder. Not another 5’7” er who runs around achieving very little and regularly losing possession. I’ve had enough of that. No, we need a solid 6 footer. Someone who does the hard graft. Someone who the opposition can’t easily by pass - and someone who can just give the ball to one of his team mates. A Nzonzi type player, or Graeme Oates kind of midfielder. Then we desperately need someone who can play the central striker role. Goal scorers cost the kind of money we don’t currently have but he doesn’t necessarily need to score 20 goals before the end of the season. As long as he could link the play and still pose a threat. For me he would be someone who’s done the job. Doesn’t matter if it was loan or permanent. I reckon that would strengthen us greatly. That’s what I would try to do. We supposedly now have staff with the ability to recognise our needs and target the right players. I get the impression that they don’t know what they’re doing any more than anyone else over the last decade or so.

I wonder what Vinny Jones or Norman Hunter would have thought about that?

If you’re sure both valves are open could it be sludge in the rad? Could try taking it off and using a hose to clear it.

I’d much prefer referees and the authorities that help interpret the laws of the game to begin to put the fans first in everything they do. You guys pay a fortune to watch Rovers. You’re being cheated out of the entertainment of the game. The only people who lose out with these trivial red cards is you - the fans. red cards should be given when the referee really has no other option.