CheshireRover

I just don't get why you'd sell it after the fact. The players will never wear it again, so what's the point in selling it afterwards when nobody can wear it? Utterly bizarre.

I personally have always liked the connection to the Maltese cross, and have often said the club should do more to play on that heritage. It was (almost certainly) the first badge worn by players representing the club during a Blackburn Rovers fixture, whether every player wore it is clearly up for debate, but nevertheless the club should've done more with that history sooner. I think from the perspective of a (former) marketing professional, whoever was the ultimate decision maker on this project has opted to use it because it seems the most historic externally, IE to someone who isn't a Rovers fan, because it's a very ancient symbol that really isn't used that much in the modern day - maybe it is in Malta but that aside. I can see the logic of the white kit, and I think objectively it's a nice idea - it does exactly what it says and reflects the original kit we had 150 years ago as far as the records currently state. Does it truly represent Blackburn Rovers, our town or our history? Probably not, it should've been blue and white and probably included the town badge - but as Gary Aspden found out, it's not always easy to get the necessary permissions to use the town name in branding (the Adidas Blackburn trainers) so I presume the same is the truth for the badge, and as we know they don't like to do anything that requires hard work down at Ewood. I'll still buy it, assuming it's ever put on sale, because in 15, 20, 25 years it'll represent to me 150 years of Rovers' existence, hopefully by then that lot will be gone and the anniversary celebrations won't be quite as underwhelming!

I think there's a lot of managers very much like JDT at the moment, in a similar age bracket, who know nothing beyond "their way". Martin & Amorim fit into this category. Stubbornly only playing "their way", and somehow being proud of not having a plan B, which just makes them look ridiculous. The reason that Ferguson was the best was he wasn't scared to play 5 in midfield and a lone striker away in Europe, and then on the Sunday play a front 3. He was flexible and did what worked for the players he had/opponents they had coming up.

Not wrong, but also they won’t have a fucking clue that this has happened. Anyone with half a brain cell can see how bad this is from a PR POV, no way they’d have sanctioned it if they knew.

I was born 7 months later so I've always been jealous of my Dad and his mates who experienced it all, and I was too young still to appreciate the League Cup win for what it was. But reading this thread and thinking about the state of the club now, just makes me angry. Angry it's happened, angry at Venky's for making it happen, angry at the footballing authorities for letting it happen and angry at the people in the fanbase who continue to watch it happening without question. Venky's out.

They have no interest in growth as shown by the multiple times we've sold out the ground and then the following match/season tickets have been sat in the top 10% of the league's pricing table. It would make the club more money to have 15k ST holders at £250 (adult) than they do half of that (thereabouts) at £350. That's before you consider reducing walk on costs and the money people spend at the game. They just don't want the scrutiny of an engaged fanbase over 20k weekly.

I'd argue he's just another person on the internet who's absolutely desperate to always be on the winning side of any debate for some unbeknownst reason. Just makes him look naïve at the absolute best.

What will it take for you to see that there's no excuse, rhyme or reason for this to keep fucking happening? The family line is absolute bullshit, the article tells you this, Does Pasha have spit in your face or something?

I feel as though I am responsible for Ohashi’s goal after this. Unbelievably good performance going forward, still very concerning with the goalkeeper situation. He just needs to be replaced, I think he knows it too.

I'm beginning to think the "submit" button still doesn't work.

The past 12 months has surely showed every youth player the best way to the top is to play for us for a bit longer? Wharton is in the England (provisional) squad for the Euros & was one of the best players in the country for the past 2-3 months whereas Ash Phillips is being linked with more Championship loans!

Rewarding the self proclaimed super fans who the clubs love and pushing away traditional fans who they don't. Shock.

ESTC resets after every major tournament and goes to "total caps" and "active caps". So for example if England are drawn with Gibraltar in the next qualification period, the first game being away, the "active caps" for everyone is 0, I believe in this instance they'd use the "total caps" to determine who's getting what in terms of tickets - I'd expect Rovers to use a similar setup should it be required.

They loyalty scheme is also a crock of shit. More points for a women's game than Plymouth, Cardiff or Sunderland away? Really? I've been a member of the England Travel Club for roughly 10 years and women's games aren't even considered as part of it. Just to add, I am well in favour of growing the women's game, but this feels like the club forcing people into spending money for the sake of "loyalty" points.

Have similar thoughts - may as well lock the thread…

I would agree, but there's also been a lot of talk that they didn't like one another, so would he be that bothered?

But equally, 11 months ago, but for the width of a crossbar, JDT would've got us into the playoffs. Fine margins don't make or break anything, you need to look at his spell as a whole to judge. I agree its clear he lost the players, the reasons for which I don't think we'll ever know, because until December he was working miracles with them...

Just get rid of the arrogant twat. Everyone who said JDT was arrogant must be delighted we’ve got this fucking useless dullard taking us down.

Can’t believe JDT made Pears let that in!

There's so much said in that statement that they (whoever at Ewood has scrambled the statement together) haven't even realised. The court case "should" have no future impact on funding. That's not a 100% committal, it's very heavily caveated, IE those at Ewood who wrote it, don't have a fucking clue, this is how I see this going. Fans who have not spotted that "should" is a big caveat think all is well now. It gets to Summer and we've miraculously stayed up, we start selling the crown jewels, or what's left, call them the fallen diamonds - Szmodics, Carter, anyone with value basically. No money is re-invested however and people begin to question this. It can't be FFP, we've sold millions of £ of players, it can't be the Indian courts, the club told us this doesn't effect us now, so why aren't we spending? Questions get asked of Waggot - he gets uncomfortable. Outcome? The club releases another statement/interview saying (paraphrased) "Oh, it turned out that the owners sending funds was effected, but we never said it wasn't we said it shouldn't be!" In this scenario, I think/hope what's left of the passive fanbase will realise we're still owned by idiots and they'll never do what's right by us and sell There's also the use of "the Owners have always supported the club, which will continue as and when they are required to do so". You own the club, you've made all the decisions that have lead us to this point, of course you're fucking required to do so!

With no end in sight, and seemingly this becoming a twice-yearly occasion, you have to begin asking what is the point for us (as fans)? We know unequivocally there will be no positive aspirations whilst the owners are prevented conveniently not allowed to invest in a promotion push, and as everyone knows if you stand still in this league you go backwards. We know the outcome before another ball is kicked, what is the point?

AFC Wimbledon made a club homeless on the whim of Chelsea. They’re bigots of the worst kind, I’d rather not be anything like them.

I believe we've had a bid rejected for Jamie Reid at Stevenage last night (info coming from their #ITK), and we're expected to make another bid...

On the plus side, this entire fuck up has brought their ownership into the mainstream of American sports media. Any other yanks fancy buying a Championship side?

Definitely: EDIT - Beaten to it