Mashed Potatoes

It's not spin to point out that many of the problems that arise at clubs result from owners putting clubs on an unsustainable cost base and are then unable to continue - that is pointed out in the explanation for the financial sustainability tests required in the forthcoming Football Governance legislation

A one season legend - like Andy Crawford

Come off it - he singlehandedly ensured we weren't relegated.

OK -Thanks

Per the rules we have to be able to do so.

Not sure that bankruptcy would suffice for an existing owner provided a club was continuing to pay their way and could demonstrate that they could continue to do so.

It happens rarely. As we have seen at Reading there were problems over a period of years regarding non payment of wages and taxes before the owner was required to sell.

We were relegated from the Premier League in 2012. At the time parachute payments were paid to relegated clubs for the next 4 years so were still being received in 2015 and 2016.

Thank you for this. I think the club with its history and excellent Academy would attract potential purchasers without too much difficulty. The difficult issue would be negotiating a price.

Google the words "Football Governance Bill House Of Commons Library" - and then go on to the link dated 23 April 2025. Scroll down that page to the words "Explanatory Notes" as of 27 March 2025. They run for 116 pages. For the purposes of what has been discussed on this thread I think you will find pages 40 to 52 the most relevant. I was interested to see what is about to happen. My hunch is that fans are likely to be disappointed; I've seen comments on here about fans getting "more power" whereas that power is really limited to various heritage issues like club name or colour of shirts. I suspect it won't be too long before the Regulator is one of the most unpopular people in the country.

I would like the owners to sell - and have done since they sacked Sam Allardyce.

Speaking to the MPs - yes. Again, I want them to work within the system - it's just worth pointing out that the one outstanding contribution made by a supporters group was when the Trust got an Asset Of Community Value order placed over Ewood Park. That was an example of people making sure they understood the law and working within the system. As for the Coalition they've set themselves a very hard objective - advocating a sale by owners who have never shown an inclination to sell. I'm not personally able to see how they can achieve that - but Glen has made it clear that they will stay the right side of the law and that definitely is "the right thing".

I'm happy to show support for them in doing the right thing. I get behind them by making constructive proposals.

Masher has made the effort to read the Parliamentary notes explaining the new legislation and understands that when it is enacted the club will have statutory obligations regarding fan engagement which they will have to fulfil whether they want to or not.

Complete nonsense. Literally nothing in my post is critical of the Coalition. Here are 2 constructive proposals for them. The Bill provides for there to be regular meetings with a representative group of supporters : 1. The Coalition should approach the club for detail of how they envisage that representative group be constituted. 2. The Coalition should ask the club to state how many meetings a year they would regard as meeting the requirement that they are "regular". That is what I mean by working within the system.

The Football Governance Bill is passing through Parliament and should be law by the end of next month. It is designed to provide the protection that you are looking for, as well as a system for fan engagement. I think the Coalition are going to have to work within this new system.

I can remember two managers leaving of their own accord, with reportedly the club receiving compensation in each case. But who were the two who were sacked ?

Per the 2024 accounts costs were £38.6m which includes non cash items like depreciation and amortisation of player contracts. To suggest that there will be millions of pounds on top of that as a budget flies in the face of what we know to be the case.

She refers to a £45m budget for the men's team at the club which suggests that her grasp on reality is at best tenuous.

Adam is going to have to get completely fit to get the recognition he deserves. He completed the full 90 minutes just 3 times in the Premier League last season. Being at Palace didn't prevent Henderson and Eze from being selected and had he been fit Guehi would probably have been selected as well.

He's out of contract - albeit aged 22 - so the fee probably goes to a tribunal.

Didn't Mbappe leave PSG for nothing ?

Whether something is illegal is determined by the courts, not the press - but even if things do go against the Raos here I can't see it being anywhere near enough to enable the EFL to act. There is at least one Premier League club with owners who practise torture in their own country.

I think to the owners it's a matter of principle - they are ,to put it mildly, extremely unwilling to provide funding if they have to put up the guarantee as well.

At Reading there was non payment of taxes and wages . For the authorities to be trying to enforce a sale of a club requires there to be very serious infractions - not dissatisfaction from supporters.