The not receiving the full fee logic is insane btw as a reason not to sign players. Considering the buying club still acquired their player. You do what they did you moron. It isn't a surprise to most fans that the full sum doesn't arrive in one go, just as it doesn't go out in one go.... If you can't spend the amount you want though, it isn't a good offer is it? In that it isn't structured well enough for you to use it, so you don't accept it... but the reality is that isn't the real reason they didn't spend much in summer. So that was more Steve Waggott drivel. People eat this up. That was a £17.4m sale, those are the facts.

or if it's being received in instalments 😂 absolute jokers.

Rovers also getting totally sidetracked at how piss poor the central midfield backup is, and a potential left back crisis. Needed a lot more agreed before now. 👍

Ah this one is absolutely perfect for Steve. Ambitious attempt, we can even make it an imaginary loan-to-buy right at the death for the perfect excuse. Strap in! "We did everything we could".

Adebayo makes sense, it's convenient for Waggott to go after a deal that depends on something else. Easy one to get out of when it doesn't go through, which it won't, even if it was serious, which it isn't.

I don't think you need to worry about the owners spending the cash on players.

The fact that the club directors weren't receptive (back in December) of the the fact we were 5th, had ridden our luck in terms of investment and squad size - in relation to league position and weren't primed to go, will remain unforgivable... it is the perfect example of the incompetence still riddled within the club. From the scouting, to the decision making, to a willingness (or lack of) to influence the owners in a way to get the team better results. They are incompetent in all departments now overseen again by Waggott. It's not a coincidence. We've struggled in all January fixtures to put a team capable of winning together and will struggle again on Friday, it will be too even. We knew where the squad needed strengthening to push on and needed to do more. I can tell you whatever they do in the next 6 days, will not make up for it. There's no excuses this time. The prize is the Premier League. THE PREMIER LEAGUE. We made the player sales to invest reasonably within FFP in the summer and now, and the owners didn't bother... AGAIN.... As a club under Venky's we are not serious. They've made it clear there is no strategy to get there. Under Waggott we are being lied to. This is happening season after season. We have got to get Suhail, Waggott and Venky's OUT! I do not mind being an ambitious club that fails, what I can't stand is being a passive club that fails. We are a far cry from the Blackburn Rovers of the 90s and 00s, and the reason (Venky's) isn't good enough. We need owners that want to invest their millions in improving all aspects of the club - the stadium, the players, the training ground, the pitch and the brand. You can mention Blackburn Rovers almost anywhere in the world and people know it; in America, Europe and across the Far East. Let's get them out!

I'd happily spend hard earned cash on protests. We need new owners.

I bet Waggott's on the phone to Fleck to see if he fancies a few minutes against Preston. Absolute joker. Ivanovic keeps scoring for Millwall, including against us. Cost them £3m ... way out of our league. Waggott and Venky's have us lower than Preston in terms of financial clout. Absolutely shameful what they've done to this club since buying it.

Great post. You also lose the player pulling power of being a team "heading for promotion". Not once have we capitalised on that under Venky's or Waggott. We're a tougher sell now. It's criminal the amount of times this has happened but the reality is we learned everything we needed to know about the owners the first time. We've been in better positions than this, with the same outcome - Steve should step down on Feb 4th and if he had anything about him he would... so no chance! 🤡

The Sam Gallagher, Ennis, Telalovic and Wahlstedt fees cover most of our transfer business in the past 12 months. Let that sink in.

Yep... it was wholesale and again not reinvested in the team in any way.

and finish 14th? 😁

There's only so long you can keep renewing and be lied to by the CEO. A lack of ambition, dishonesty, poor communication and no investment isn't a way to sell tickets.

I keep going back to the Wharton and Raya money, forgetting we got £9m for Szmodics in a summer when "the owners could fund freely by providing a personal guarantee". Bollocks! Scumbags. Waggott is a deceitful man. The whole ground turned on him last year and the chants were right. Eustace saved him from anarchy. Time to resign Steve and Suhail Pasha, you're next! Friday night could get nasty. They are running out of places to hide.

I'm sure Adam Forshaw is a decent guy but it's an absolutely criminal signing that tells you all you need to know about our CEO and the owners. Even with Travis and Tronstad a bit of money needed spending on the middle of the park. Money also needed spending at centre back. Early in the window. It's cost us points. The issues are glaringly obvious and it's a lack of interest in results by the owners... and the quality of our CEO. He's a plodder, with little ambition and his eyes firmly on his bank account. We might not see another Adam Wharton type transfer again, and when they happen it doesn't get reinvested at all in the squad, lets not pretend it will again on the next one....... so what is the plan? If you're not going to spend a reasonable amount of money on players when a sale like that happens you might as well forget it..... We need answers, Broughton made mistakes but his communication was open, honest and football driven. He had his eyes on reinvesting all of the Raya money. The owners need to go and they can take Waggott with them.

Starved out by the owners

This isn’t just a money issue, it’s a functionality issue too when it’s left in the hands of Waggott. We’ve seen it before, contracts get neglected etc. Smaller clubs that have generated less revenue are operating better than Rovers. Absolutely not what the players or manager deserve. We will never be successful with Suhail, Waggott and Venky’s. They would all have to go.

A few compliments to the group from Waggott makes sense. They aren't impressed and the feeling is it's a captainless ship above Eustace... who's very popular.

Players and the manager are frustrated at the lack of investment in the team. From one of the horses mouths. I won't say who and I doubt that is a shock to most on here...... they are in the dark and it's a similar thing every year. Fadz did his best to act as a messenger. There's little faith in anyone above the manager currently and it does have a psychological impact. 👍

Back from the game.... and why bother going. I'm not posting on here again until we sign some players. It's absolutely criminal. SPEND SOME MONEY!

Ha I'm not sure what your point is other than we have terrible owners, which is also the point I'm trying to make, I'd say lazily... but it took quite a bit of time to add up the transfer revenue in. I'm aware there's more to it and that a model like Brentford's takes 5, 10, 15 years depending on owner interest and willingness to spend; largely on things that win football games (players!), we've had that window a few times to know ours aren't interested or willing. If they fail to show up this transfer window...... and they haven't yet, then the focus should be toward a get them out within a year model.

Fully aware but it's irrelevant really since we aren't asking them to spend £37.5m on players. The point is the amount spent on players doesn't correlate and should comfortably be higher. Preston are outspending us regularly and now the likes of Plymouth. Similar situations and nowhere near this level of revenue made through player sales. Our owners are wealthier than most. Lets not make it look any prettier for them, we don't have 14 fans turning up on a match day we have 14,000. The owners are scumbags that are doing the bare minimum and investing next to nothing in players, results and new facilities. Reinvesting player sales is how you get out of this league. The Brentford model that they have no interest in executing.

We generated £37.5m gross in player sales (without the Armstrong sale). (Raya £4 million add on included). Adam Wharton - £17.4m Thomas Kaminski £2.4m Ashley Philips £1.9m Nail Ennis £485k Sam Szmodics - £8.9m Sam Gallagher - £1.49m Wahlstedt - £830,000 The money spent is a complete and utter disgrace. Embarrassing stuff.

The wild thing is this is now the same conversation every winter and summer so it's no longer guessing, or if it is they are now more educated guesses that are nearly always right, people thinking the opposite (that Venky's will spend) is just blind wishful thinking... and there are now zero trends to support that... even if they did miraculously starting spending and showing some interest... you would not expect it, if you had any sense.