Mowbray was only ever there to keep them up last year. He got an extra couple of months because of the playoff finish but he was always going to be binned for someone actually decent. As I've posted before, Sunderland have ambition, we don't.

Would take that in a heartbeat rather than the shit we've got here.

What constitutes trouble though? What have they actually done?

That's what a club with ambition does. Got what they needed from Mowbray and then binned him off just as one of his famous death spirals was beginning. Only at this club, where they have gone on record as saying they have absolutely no ambition at all, would a dolloper like Mowbray get 5 years to achieve absolutely fucking nothing.

That's a given though. The fuckin Yorkshire twats.

This reputation that Leeds have, is it justified? Or is this just a bunch of pissed up lads givin it the big un and a few fist fights? There is a lot of vilification of football fans. It's all fine and dandy to wage illegal wars and commit genocide, but give someone a slap on a Saturday afternoon and you're the scum of the earth. Anyway, Rovers 2-1 LEYDZ

The most depressing part of this was that they said they were committed to the club.

And there we have it. Venkys have never had any desire whatsoever to get this club back to the premier league. To say otherwise is at best total delusion. 19. JDT contract - it is a 3 year deal with no talks of a new contract planned at this stage, he is ambitious. We asked why JDT thinks he was sold a pup? He reiterated that its the same job as its always been with no pressure on league position. Its always been about developing and trading regardless of financial restrictions this summer.

West Ham having by far the largest budget in the competition was probably the main factor there. Ancelotti who is possibly the best manager around in the recent era doesn't bother with all this football philosophy bollocks. Just an organised defence and good attacking players. Football really is quite simple. If you can defend well then you've a good chance of winning.

Taking him off against Preston totally changed the game.

Ridiculous comparison. The men and women's games are totally different. Women's football is women's football.

Funnily enough I never thought Kaminski was that great. Fantastic shot stopper but poor on corners and generally commanding the box. Guess I am just judging by much higher standards from a bygone era.

He could score 35 goals and be player of the season and rigger would still call him shit.

I wouldn't. Under venkys the playoffs are the absolute minimum I will accept. Anything less is complete failure. Standards are important.

They'll be back next year when they buy their way to promotion. Again.

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The divisions whipping boys versus the little boys. Pathetic how easily our team will be bullied. Grow some fucking bollocks the lot of them. When I was a kid I was always told, if someone hits you, you hit em back harder. Weak as piss. Pathetic. Age is nothing to do with it.

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"Modern" tactics are responsible not only for a downgrade in goalkeeper quality but a downgrade of every position and the whole game really. That's the Pep influence right there. You used to have proper strikers. Their main job was to score. Proper defenders. Thier jobs were to stop the attacks. Proper goalkeepers. Stop the ball going in the net. Now you just have 11 average midfielders whose only real qualities are fast passing with good control and some decent positioning. Jack of all trades master of none the lot of them. The one thing all these pound shop peps seem to forget is that Pep has always had near unlimited amounts of money to build his squad. Guardiola has himself said that he couldn't do what he does without huge budgets. Look at Haaland as an example. Yes, he's world class, but I think a lot of his success comes from modern defenders not knowing how to deal with a traditional centre forward. They've never been taught how to deal with that. Put him in a side in the 90's, he'd still be great, he's a top class player, but he'd not be the phenomenon he is now. Short corners - Only effective when you hit them long 95% of the time. Passing out from the back - Unless you're a world class side, just don't. Keepers punching the ball instead of catching - Was, is and always will be complete and utter dog shit. Should never be done unless in an emergency.

Rovers legend.

More likely both.

Price has nothing to do with it. Apparently.....

It was absolute gold. A real gem of a programme.

Pleased to see that war criminal Henry Kissinger has finally died. Sad to hear about the rest. Amazed Shane McGowan made it to 65.

Wonder how many will get that one