It's getting to the point where I'm thinking that we could replace the whole back 5 and we would be no better off, because we're so disjointed all over the pitch with no organisation.

I couldn't help but laugh thinking about this new style, as soon as we kicked off today we played it back to Lenihan who hoofed it forward to nobody. Set the tone perfectly.

Why did Buckley come on over our £7m striker for the last 10 when we needed a goal?

Looking at the pre season lineups, Rothwell was always in the "B team lineups" it was as clear as day that he wasnt going to start. I always felt that Mowbray only played him in that last 7 games because they were glorified friendlys, and even then it was through gritted teeth.

I cant believe that Graham wont start. The only thing I'm convinced with is that Rothwell won't start.

Yeah agree with the above, went into that season with some real optimism, we had just finished the previous season with a long unbeaten run, and there just seemed to be a bit of a buzz around the place on that Friday evening. I think we were actually in touching distance of the play offs until around December before it started to go really wrong, remember losing at home to Sheff Wed, then away games at Brentford and Bolton which were awful. Cup run aside our league form didn't really recover to make a threat to the playoffs, it was our most wasted season since coming down I think.

Charlton never bring numbers up here though, save for that one season in 07 (?) when they put free coaches on towards the end of the season. It'll be between 12-13k tomorrow, as Matty says mid to lower table second division will never pull the crowds in here, and never has done in the past.

You have a right beef with Grayson don't you?! Seen you mention how terrible he is a few times. I've never seen him play to be honest, what makes him a non league player?

He might took us up can't argue with that, I'd also bet that he would have took us straight back down again. The clubs financial situation would look a lot better though.

Apart from Newcastle, who did it twice! 1st - Cardiff 2nd - Stoke Rovers - anywhere between 12-16th Haven't a clue where the rest will finish.

No chance I'm afraid. Imagine Smallwood & Evans out and Reed in on deadline day?! Just too good to be true unfortunately.

Bennett for Nyambe & Gallagher for Rothwell, and I think that's the team.

That doesn't sound like Mowbray ? That's definitely happening then, i'm not doubting the lad is a good player but I just don't see how he plays regular here, this whole saga will end up being a complete waste of time IMO.

Seems to work for Elliot Bennett?

Sharpe reckons that Ipswich keeper is off to Milwall so isn't happening.

Was around 21k on, nowhere near a sell out.

I think Mulgrew got injured, then TM just kept Williams in because he had a couple of good games, and the fact the games were just glorified pre season friendlys at that point. If the games had meant anything then you can bet Mulgrew would have been back in the side. We'll see on Rothwell, but if I was a betting man then I'd suggest that Mowbray will start with Armstrong, Graham & Gallagher as his front three on Saturday.

Completely agree with this, but we just know it will be the usual subjects until the 70th minute "trying to keep it tight" until we bring the likes of Rothwell, Brereton on etc.

Oh come on. Bennett and Mulgrew will be permanent first team fixtures for a long time yet and no way is Mowbray leaving out Bennett for Nyambe, now, October or May It does seem that Evan's has at least been relegated to being behind Travis and Johnson though so that's one plus. Also Rothwell, I'd say in Mowbrays head he's behind Armstrong, Gallagher & Brereton for the "wide forward" roles at the moment.

Yeah, that one isn't happening.

Yeah, Graham, Bennett & Mulgrew all play. Gallagher & Armstrong will be the "wide forwards". Rothwell is in for another frustrating 6 months I feel.

Chapman must be behind Armstrong, Rothwell, Brereton, Gallagher, Bennett, Downing, Buckley, Butterworth & maybe even JRC now for a starting place in our "front 3". I'd be amazed if he starts a league game before Christmas.

Which this guy would probably be. I can't imagine we'll part with actual cash for him.

If signed, he will sit on the bench for 6 months regardless of results, to "learn the Mowbray way"

He'd probably think "I'll put Ritchie there, he can do a job". But seriously, I'd like to think even the thought of him being injured might just trigger a reaction to go and get somebody now whilst he still can. It's no good leaving it and thinking we have plenty of young lads in reserve, then Lenihan breaks his foot against Fulham.