davulsukur

It took Forest circa £175m and signing 21 players to finish 16th and survive by 4 points. Yo-Yoing is definitely the strategy for a lot of clubs. In the case of Leeds, Dingles and Sheff Utd they've come back down, sold a few players for good money and reinvested a good portion (but not all) back into the squad. Dwarfing the spending anyone else can achieve but actually making a profit in the market in the process + having parachute payments to boot. They can all offer huge wages vs the rest of the league and can attract better players by paying insane fees to agents (see Leeds spending on that one)

I thought I read that he was available for selection for last nights game but having brushed aside Bristol City in the first leg, they had the luxury of resting him again. Nice for some, to be able to rest a £10m player. Good summary that. Birmingham sound like they are going to be chucking some good money around this summer, Wrexham maybe also? Sunderland will likely spend a reasonable amount, albeit not to the level of the parachute payment teams. We're in with the rest, this group of 15 or so clubs that can finish anywhere from 7th - 24th. Bristol City won the tallest dwarf competition this year but could easily find themselves 18th next season. One of us could "do a Luton" but the chances are getting less and less. This group will start getting smaller over the next few years as other clubs start to circumnavigate the rules and investing more and more into their squads, coupled with teams with parachute payments not getting back up at the first time of asking. As always, in the medium to longer term under this ownership, we'll be in trouble and a few clubs like us will drop down to league 1, where the cycle will start again.

BBD not even made the Sheff Utd squad. Shows what other clubs are up against now. Top 2 is a closed shop for clubs with parachute payments and now looks like the play offs are as well.

Here's your 3rd left back.

Yes, I appreciate that but it won't be finalised without the player.

I agree about the contracts but it looks like they are all on holiday now, so those will have to wait.

Possibly in a minority but I thought Sanderson was good when he was on the pitch. I was hoping we would make his loan permanent but with Birmingham likely chucking big money about this summer, though we might get a cut price deal, £500k or so. £1m is a lot for the poor budget we will have, so probably not worth it.

😂😂😂😂 Laughable stuff.

Didn't realise we'd let Bloxham go as well. 20 years old, never really kicked on, probably the correct decision

I think hes just got back playing again recently. I'm sure i saw a tweet from Barrow about it. Couple of sub apps but it's a start 🤞 Edit: didn't realise he'd been released (as per the above post)

Come on, someone must have watched it?!

I think we'll be pushing to get all of those out the door. Markanday is out of contract I think, with a possible year extra if we activate it, which we'd only do to generate a small amount in a sale.

A shame but not unexpected. Could be a real player there but he's lost a lot of development time at first team level due to his injuries. Highly likely he'll need to drop down to League 2 after getting injury free and re-starting his career.

I'll be very surprised if he's a Rovers player come the start of the season. Didn't make the squad for the last 2 games and was an unused substitute 3 times before that. Gestede has already stated that RB & CM are positions we'll be looking at, so he's not being considered for those positions. He's too slow for any of the attacking positions.

That Judge is booking his holiday for the rest of the week as we type..........

😂😂 What an absolute joke their court system is.

A good first season for Yuki, no doubts there. He's also improved on aspects of his game that were lacking when he first joined, his first touch and control was pretty horrific when he joined but he's got up to speed with the league and it's improved a lot. Him getting a proper rest over the summer and a full pre-season with the squad should be good for him. What did we pay, like £200k for him? an absolute bargain.

Charlie Olson was voted Young player of the year at Altrincham, so perhaps he'll get a chance over pre-season?

If I'm being perfectly honest, I don't know the in's and out's of their squad, or what sort of quality (if any) they have. However the owners/board/whoever, have determined that a 14th place finish isn't what they were expecting with the squad they have and so, Cleverley gets the bullet. Unless he's got a starting 11 that is total dross, 5 wins from 25 just isn't good enough and he clearly isn't getting enough out of what he's got.

Providing there are no concerns with his latest injury, he'd be a useful option off the bench but he shouldn't be starting games regularly.

5 wins in 25? Yeah, fans of any club would be calling for his head. Watford burn through managers but they want instant success. Not sure what giving Cleverley another 25 games will achieve if he only managed 5 wins in his last 25, he ain't turning that around.

Cheers for that, as I said I don't have too much knowledge of the players coming through. I've heard Edmondson and Dunn's names banded about a bit by the club, as well as O'Grady-Macken. The club does spring a few surprises with the youth team retention though, just when you think a player might make it, we release them. Not sure on Markanday, I think he'll possibly only get the nod if we fail to land anyone in the summer but he's already shown he's not good enough for this level, so it would be a disappointing contract renewal. I think Gilsenan will end up following Sam Barne's route. Club obviously rates them but both just injured forever. I reckon we'll release him and he'll have to drop down a few levels to get himself back playing (albeit, there are a few years between them). If we give him another year, it will be last chance saloon for him. Shame, he seemed like a decent player when he did manage to get on the pitch for the 1st team.

According to Gestede in the No Tippy Tappy Football podcast (I finally listened to it 😞 ), the plan is to have 2 players for each position, with a 3rd player being an academy player (where possible). I suspect the club will try and do the following: GK: Toth, Pears, Michalski RB: Brittain, New, Duru CB: Hyam, Carter, Litherland CB: Batth, Wharton, Atcheson, New LB: Riberio, Pickering, New/Unknown from Academy RW: New, New, New/Unknown from Academy CM: Travis, New, Montgomery CM: Tronstad, Forshaw, New/Unknown from Academy LW: Hedges, Kargbo, New/Unknown from Academy AMF: Cantwell, Weimann, Tyjon ST: Ohashi, Gueye, New OUT: JRC, Buckley, Dolan, Vale, Markanday, Garrett, O'Riordan, Batty, Gilsenan, Leonard (on loan) Loans departing: Beck, Woodrow, Sanderson, Cozier-Duberry. I've stuck 6 academy players in there: Michalski, Duru, Litherland, Atcheson, Montgomery & Tyjon and i think we'll add 2 more to the group, I just don't know enough about the academy players to know who's coming through and who isn't but we'll want players coming through on the wings, where we are light on players. We could be fighting to keep hold of Tyjon as a few reports coming about that Man Utd (and others) are looking at taking him off our hands. That leaves us needing: x1 RB x1 CB (as has been mentioned on here and by RG, Wharton won't be rushed) x1 CM x2 RW x1 ST That's the "key positions" RG has mentioned That puts us up to 24 players, with 8 academy players added in.

My expectations aren't high but it will swing from either a relegation battle to midtable depending on the summer business. The plan is just to increase the value of younger players for a future sale, so i'd be looking more towards a relegation battle than anything else right now.

Derby staying up has done us no favours. Eustace knows the contract situation with all our decent players and he was a well liked manager by the players. Derby will back him to a point, I wouldn't be surprised if his first port of call was the agents of Hyam, Travis, Tronstad, Brittain and Dolan. Can get them all for a cut price, as our clown ownership has allowed them to get into their final 12 months and Derby will offer more wages.