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Yet another example of the loyal supporter being treated as a cash cow customer whereas there used to be a relationship with the Club in which those supporters were recognised as invested in the Club, not just the matchday shirts.

If just another 20 million of that player trading excess had been used to hire a good CEO and manager and invest regularly across the team like they did with Armstrong for example we'd be in a way better place now. Maybe the Prem or more likely with parachute money to make us competitive. I know hindsight is a wonderful thing but how many plans, journey's, resets, projects have there been in the last decade only for them to be pulled to bits again within a season or two ? Resulting in pay offs, wasted wages and reduced income swallowing up every spare penny and more. Their cack handed ignorant ambitionless way of running the club with those who've seeked for it to serve their own pockets etc has led to where we are now on and off the park. People out there need to take in the full picture before they jump to their defence and find excuses or blame fans. There has NEVER been a real plan other than wing it season to season even when a few well meaning managers or whatever have tried to install and work to one. it's ALL on the owners and their minions and its finally entered the terminal phase now whether they'll acknowledge that or not. Anybody who gets pacified again by them suddenly installing a CEO - to oversee bugger all - is a fool to be blunt.

Dare I interpret this as a desperate bid to claw in some extra cash by trying to persuade fans to hand over extra money to listen to Ismael? Perhaps suggests that things are really, really tight down there? Or are they really thinking that loads of people are going to shell out in January to listen to him as he's potentially reached 1 win in 13 home games?

I think the club (regime) would be quite happy with that. If the profit on the top 2 can clear the cash paid out / committed to be paid out on the rest then the job is just about done, and that's before we factor in the sales from last summer covering most / all of the initial outlay and what should amount to a significant wage saving in the process. It isn't hard to see why the chief stooge and his mates are able to tick the boxes when it comes to the Indians. So long as we can limp our way to Championship survival they will be happy, and it seems so will a large chunk of the Rovers' support base.

The only time you fail is when you stop trying.

Still every chance it gets canned with a ‘due to unforeseen circumstances…’ (Obviously nobody down there could have foreseen that no fecker would be daft enough to cough up… bit like how nobody could have foreseen Adam Wharton turning into a good footballer).

Boiling it down to this summer's activity, we spent roughly £10m on 10 players. Alebiosu you'd imagine you could sell for a tidy profit. Gudjohnssen has potential for a tidy profit but not there yet imo. Moreshita might just about get money back or a modest loss. The rest you'd think you'd be struggling to give away. Edit: So likely another trading loss if push came to shove but more importantly our Championship status in severe jeopardy.

A good couple weeks off yet, this, with strong chances that things will be even worse by then. Under any normal club any such evening would not be going ahead with the club in 20th and nosediving. Here it’s just a guarantee that he’ll still be in situ irrespective of results and performances.

The tickets and visiting the US are so so expensive in the midst of a global cost of living crisis I do wonder if the whole character of the tournament will further deteriorate. Will it be mostly rich Americans, celebrities etc, and not many actual home fans? I don't imagine too many empty stadiums, but I expect the atmosphere might be a bit muted and shit. Managing to successfully hold the last 3 world cups in post-Crimean invasion Russia, human rights crushing Qatar, and now daylight robbery in Trumps America is a real hatrick of evil.

Not a hope in hell.

Do you get your money back if he refuses to answer your question??

Brighton’s first year in the PL resulted in a broadcasting revenue increase of £102.5 million.

At last a well respected Rovers die hard blue and white spectacle historian telling it like it really is. That transfer 'excess' covers about 5 years at least running costs it's one big money go round on the books of the VH group and some in the middle are making money that's why it continues. A massive borrowing facility in India secured on land and serviced by the club turnover/platey sales and the VH group, with middleman/men creaming a few million a year off, whilst it serves against a bit of tax on the companies portfolio makes more sense when you think about it.

I think thats pretty much the case in honesty, that being said... Given 2 home matches have been called off due to sheer ground maintenance incompetence/under funding... I wonder if there is potential to claim our money back as we've been mis-sold??? 🤣

Venkys London accounts since ownership until 31st March this year reveal: Total profit on transfers of £92,859,896 Only two years of net losses on transfers (2013-2014 and 2014-2015)

The amount of attention given to someone with views that are diametrically opposed to ~80% of posters on here and clearly lacks the intelligence to understand the nuances of opinion, blows my mind

That’s more like it: a compelling fact-based argument that everyone can get behind.

Exactly what we should have done with Ismael after his first few weeks in charge.

Now that, is a target for a boycott.

Results will play a part as well. We have some tough and also some critical fixtures between now and the Watford game: Millwall - Tough Middlesbrough - Tough Sheff Wed - Critical Wrexham - Critical Charlton - Critical Ipswich - Tough Swansea - Critical Watford - Boycott I don't see us picking up many points across those whole set of fixtures but there could be some devastating losses in there. If we're in the bottom 3 by the time Watford come to town, we might very well get a lot of fans boycotting.

Let's get those ducks in a row now. Relegation and a failure to pay the bills and a few will want to jump on board. The question is then, will the venkys ever let it get to that amd would they just have to put their hands deeper in their pockets? I also think calling a boycott now highlights and gives credence to those us of who have already taken this stance (for example me and my group since the summer). Otherwise its too easy to pass it off as shit support when in reality if you changed the ownership and made imo basic attempts to reengage with supporters you'd quite quickly get a lot back (albeit some who are out of the habit will take longer to come back).

I have given some ideas to a member who messaged me here but I can't repeat enough that your last point is hugely important to any form of protest movement winning. There's a PR campaign to be had here. Open letters and calls to boycott are great but they will never really 'go viral'. Too often the retort to protesting fans are along the lines of Who will buy us? £20m per year investment £200m investment so far We are a small club, small town, small fan base...who will buy us? These sorts of narratives can and should be challenged on the battleground that is social media. Since the Venkys ownership, a cursory glance of the accounts show that, based on the accounts and position of Rovers on their purchase, to where we are now, there is around a 460m implied revenue gap. That is the cost of Venky's ownership and it does not even count in the new TV deals, which I am certain in concerted efforts on here we have the ability to produce and show that 'revenue gap' being much bigger had we maintained our PL Status This sort of simple graphic challenges the "£200m pound" lie easily, without drawn out debate and given its nature has the potential to go viral You can run all sorts of similar campaigns. A "Uncle Jack's Legacy" campaign could feature, with the well-known quote from Madame heading a series of "before and after" photographs, data or actions which could feature everything from the general state of Ewood, the attempt to sell off Brockhall, the drainage or the demise in fan base and interest In short I think there's a battle to win hearts and minds, to remind some supporters of what we can be as a football club instead of what folk think we should be and it needs to be social media friendly, quick, graphic and in large volume. From a single series such as the Uncle Jack's legacy you could create dozens of graphics and circulate periodically. And the wider football fanbase are insignificant - these graphics need to be targeted at Rovers fans and if they do reach others great, if not who cares And if you keep it factual then the Club can threaten all they want but they can't do a thing. Spelling out facts online is not a crime

It would seem that a few of the die-hard attendees, are only going because they have already paid for a season ticket.

I agree. Its come to the point where something more drastic has to be attempted.