Waiting for someone to come along and say he would be better off staying here.

Pasha is the man behind a lot of the downgrading i have no doubts he'd be happy being the big cheese of an easy to run league 1 outfit. It's all about him in the eyes of the owners 'look look we've cut the budget, finished 8th and sold players to pay the bills' That kind of thing gets pay rises and bonuses, asking for multi million pound signings and missing or losing in the play offs probably gets the sack.

When Mowbray was here and he had a direct line to the owners my opinion of them was that, with the right guys in charge we'd flourish as the manager seemed to have carte blanche. Since they've turned the taps off and costs have been slashed across the board it's clear we're only heading one way - relegation and then liquidation.

I was on the riverside for that game too. 40,000 packed into Ewood. Imagine it with 61,000 on!

Hes not rocked the boat for seven and a half years he won't start now.

That’s why he’s not signed a scholar, enjoy Italy!

Absolutely dreadful decisions made on the squad. What the hell Tuchel?

"Adam, Wharton" trending on twitter now

I remember both of those games, very well. Both definitely in the 80’s

The suggestion that Pasha has been telling the owners that all is well and they don't need to spend has been doing the rounds for a few seasons now from a variety of "inside" sources. I didn't give it any credence at first, it's just too ludicrous for words, who apart from their right mind (apart from Mowbray) would be discouraging the owners from spending? Anyone normal on the ground would be doing their utmost to persuade the owners to spend as much on players as they possibly could. Does seem to be an increasingly common suggestion though - not least from one of our former managers" "Ask Suhail".

Some of my first games were those FA Cup ties against Cov and Villa in 1980 (?). I was in the Riverside seats with my dad and can remember looking down on the packed terrace below. I think there were 30k on Ewood for those games. Happy memories!

Question not directed at me but I've always thought it was those on the ground at Ewood whose cushy little number with minimum hassle would be affected - Suhail, Waggott, Mowbray, Venus, Lowe, Caley etc etc. Gestede has now come in and seemingly bought quickly into the "Play offs weren't the target this season it was building for next year" line. Can't see why the owners wouldn't want promotion if only to recoup some losses.

Exactly. Conversely if they'd gone the other way and suddenly decided to fully fund the women's side for good PR, bearing in mind it's not PSR related, but not communicated the decision miles in advance, that would have been absolutely fine. In general terms there genuinely isn't any impediment to them funding the women's side if they wanted to, they obviously just don't want to. It does make me continue to worry if funding has now been completely cut off all round , no matter what the situation, but we haven't quite got to crisis point yet.

I spent most of my early years supporting Rovers from the Riverside. Probably 1973 to 1985. It was far from full during those years, but it’s where I fell in love with Rovers and used to really enjoy my time there, with some great memories.

The last time the old Ewood was packed to the rafters was v City 1969(?) It was absolutely frightening standing on the Riverside. You saw the sway coming before it hit you and you had to cling to any rail for dear life. Can't believe how we used to get many more than that on. Crowds more well-behaved possibly.

By leadership, does that mean the owners don't want promotion or Suhail, Gestede and Waggott?

The decision to disband the team was shameful, lack of communication is bad but secondary. If they'd communicated it well it would still have been a shameful decision.

Club went downhill with all of them. Singh tried to make things better but had no clue and should never have had the job. This is the problem---Venkys simply appoint people they trust regardless of any experience or ability.

Tuchel said Livramento and Wharton are going to the under 21s euros

I take it the TV feed suggesting things are fine, was the hot topic?

Apples and oranges. The riverside holds about 5k now. Back in the day the riverside terrace alone probably held double that at least.

Dreadful selection. What on earth has Jones, Henderson, Toney, Walker or James done to deserve calling up? Liveramento, Guehi, Wharton, Hudson-Odoi, Maguire (Great for England) have all had better seasons... Come back Garry, all is forgiven..

I was willing to overlook the first squad being regressive, as it was his first one, but both of Tuchel's squads have been disappointing in my view. Some past it players included and some bang in form players overlooked, pretty much the opposite of how it should be.

This guy has by most accounts been involved in various capacities since before the wretches even completed their takeover. Two relegations, three near misses, collapses in attendances and income, losses over £200 million, negative publicity, chaos, humiliation, yet it appears he has even more power now than ever before, the latest move being to oust Waggott leaving his little gang in control. It's going to take a lot more than a couple of dodgy interviews or banners at Ewood to shift this bloke unless he gives up of his own volition. The intriguing part will be if he is shifted who the wretches get to replace him because they ain't giving that job and the direct line to just anyone.

Oh this hoodwink stunt had my fingers doing overtime last night, straight to pune HQ