Think his overall point is that people saying x player is not as good as x without seeing both play.

I look forward to all the new replacements -of course, time will be needed for bedding in, adapting to the new project and transition - and then I look forward to significant expenditure in January for reinforcements for a definite promotion push that will propel us into the top 6 -it's been coming for some time now (apart from league 1 of course)....

We could be stronger if we sign a right winger who can make things happen. My reservations are - I haven’t seen many good 6’2” fullbacks and not many centre halves make good full backs. Of course I’ll reserve judgement until I’ve seen him play in the flesh.

I think very few, if any, have written players off before seeing them play. What has happened, is people have noticed patterns over years, looked at the experience/careers/price/etc of players going out, vs payers coming in, and come to a conclusion. I said a few days ago that in most cases, any players brought in are likely to be an immediate downgrade on any they replace. Now this doesn't mean that any new signings are going to be rubbish, and it doesn't mean that they wont improve, and possibly even given time, be better than those who they replaced. But it is a logical step, seeing as we are in general replacing experienced Championship performers with younger players from overseas

Looking forward to Axel's rose video.

It’s a great point… The number who are ‘concerned’ or blatantly claim were weaker now, simply because they’ve not seen the signings play is laughable. Listen, all of the players we’ve signed COULD be shit, but I’m not stupid enough to write anyone off until I’ve watched them play and the number of fully grown men willing to do so is truly bewildering! 🤷🏽‍♂️🤣

And to be fair he wasn't a good right-back. Remember him taking a lot of stick from the Riverside (no surprise there!) Moving him into midfield was inspired though. Was that Tony P or Don Mackay who did that?

Anyone remember the collective attitude, when Mark Atkins replaced Chrissy Price?

I will make a further prediction When Liverpool replace Salah, that will also be a downgrade However, his replacement will still be good, probably one of the best Both of those things can be true simultaneously

tax and financial purposes ...if they don't give a fuk...we'll be in admin or filed bankruptcy ...they can't do both as they'll be called for the instruments by the bank... every cost in rovers books is inflated ...especially agent fees

I think the request that Pasha, Waggott and Gestede not attend matches was a good move, in hindsight. It was an unusual and quite petty request that the fan groups surely understood would be ignored, but it was a different angle of attack to the blanket "venkys out, sell the club". It caught people running the club off guard a bit and it got media attention in the way that the last ten years of "venkys out, sell the club" hasn't. I think since then they've continued to trip themselves up when speaking on the record and showed a level of incompetence many of us expected. Every time we're able to force the leadership out in the open they continue to expose the rubbish job they've done and continue to do. Given Waggott's speedy departure and then now coming out and threatening to ban fans, I'd say it ruffled feathers more than anything else in the last half-decade

Has anybody said that? I've seen people say we have downgraded from Brittain, but nobody who has actually said he's shite.

You're wrong, he's shite, the people on here who've never seen him play said so.

We are waiting for Ronaldinho to sign on a pay as you play first, but Beckham has signed. Possibly, anyway, he has been photographed in a Rovers shirt but nobody is sure if we pressed send. Don't worry though, we have a 1 billion quid warchest waiting for us if we can just get approval from the court toda- ah they've adjourned. Something fucking like that anyway.

You can pipe up in proceedings? Now that seems like something we could exploit...50 fans all coordinated sort of thing, that would have to garner some attention.

Has Axel Witsel still not signed then? How about Riquelme?

maybe I should have put "disappointed" in inverted commas?

I'll be disappointed if we do. Vile song, that frog was annoying as hell! Plus the original song is great and would serve the same purpose.

The time and effort thing is also a huge barrier for me personally, I already chair a group that runs charity stuff, and that takes up most of my spare time. I just thought important to add the part about how I felt it came across. Not that I don’t understand why, banging your head against a wall for over a decade can’t be a healthy pastime!

I'd taken you line of "I also don’t think you get people to engage with you by taking that approach, but I’m not or never will be involved in any of this because of the sheer time it must take up." to mean get people (at the club) to engage. However you mean people of different opinions across the fan group. In which case I agree with you to some degree.

What makes me sad is that many of us may not be around to celebrate 175 years. This is what you get when you have non Rovers supporting shysters running our Club. The famous Blackburn Rovers has put this Town on the map more than anything I can think of these last 150 years,it deserves so,so much better.

Honestly if we tie up this last couple of deals and then it's premier league loans for the remaining spaces so be it - wouldn't be my first choice but it does at least look like we are going to meet the bare minimum standard of starting the season with a moderately balanced squad with players in every position and I really did not think we'd achieve that at the end of last season. Whether the players we have brought in are up to it remains to be seen.

Australian fan here. Very happy we've signed Miller. He's been one of our better players internationally recently. Australia play 5 at the back and he's regularly played as the right wide/wing back, so he's no stranger to getting up the pitch. It looks like he was used differently at Hibs, but he's probably a bit more versatile than he's been given credit for.

If, after 2 days of waiting , we don't get an Axel F (Henriksson) Crazy Frog related reveal, I will be disappointed

I’ve never spoken to Mike, I’ve read his posts on here and I watched his address (and the full trust video) but I just couldn’t help but feel put off getting involved. I appreciate that the work they’ve done hasn’t come off like we and they want, and I know it’s not the trust or anyone from the FF or WATR etc - it’s all down to the club, I get that but need to stress it again!… I felt put off getting involved because of the sheer negativity, “the he said she said, we did this, they took credit etc” If I’m having that response - someone who cares deeply for the club, then it’s obvious to me that it would disengage many other fans too. Surely we need them all onside to change the ownership? The “demanding Rudy, Steve and Pasha don’t come to the games”, another thing I just thought a stupid response and easy to turn back on the fan group. I don’t know the answers, I don’t have solutions - but I thought a pertinent thing to add since that’s how I felt. Getting the majority of rovers fans to engage with these groups surely requires a different approach.