But just remember "the football and commercial side are covered and performing to high standards."

I think it should come with lights like a Xmas jumper that would be cool

Probably just parroting this out of context.

TBH there is also plenty to be bitter about. We've had 15 years of misery, we deserve a fresh start.

Let's not be confused though---getting rid of Pasha would surely not mean Venkys would replace him with someone competent and worthy. Nothing would change. Ultimately we want a sale.

Totally different situation. Waggott was due to go soon and had very little recent contact with the owners and very little influence over the past 12 months or so. I think Venky's lost faith in him a while ago. Pasha is the one who feeds all the false positives back to India. They rely on him totally. He is the one who is driving the cost cutting, aiming to sell any asset worth a few bob and telling the owners all will be well. They will not sack Pasha but he hates any public exposure. If we can keep up the pressure on him personally to a point where he decides he has had enough and he resigns, it could mean Venky's would have to become more directly involved and possibly make them realise what a shit show it really is. They may not care too much, but getting rid of Pasha would cause far more problems for them than getting rid of Waggott.

They got last year's kit right. It's not difficult. It's deliberate at this point.

I thought he took one up too. Maybe he doesn't count towards esc because of age, or that he was not registered as a first team player? (although I thought neither of those factors mattered) Or maybe they are counting on moving him on in the summer (if it wasn't just a case of out of sight, out of mind?)

The Club Badge in Holograpic Gold with a commemorative ribbon underneath and most would have been happy at a guess...just that special touch,something different. All needed is a little thought to detail sometimes. Just a passing thought,does this set the trend for any special Club events this season?...dont get your hopes up too high folks!

Something to do with ‘stakeholders’, I’d imagine.

What good PR?

If only there was a 1.5 billion population market that the owners could try and tap into?

Keith Andrews is apparently!

Fair point. Who is actually in tune with the history and in touch with our past. Ought to be drilled into everyone from groundsman to bench staff to cafe worker on joining

I'm amazed you thought I was talking about you with a "this lot" comment. Was obviously talking about those running the club not going ahead with the reversed halves, despite having all the meetings, surveys etc telling them that it was the one feature that was non negotiable. Quite clearly not aimed at any one person on here.

You know what, I didn't realise it wasn't reversed halves when I posted, so my bad on that one...but calling someone thick for having a different opinion? Absolutely man child levels of pathetic. Get a grip and grow up.

Wrexham have smart, commercially minded business people running the show = significant revenue streams, even in league 2. Look at some of their sponsors: TikTok, United Airlines, Aviation Gin. Multi billion dollar businesses recognising a product with good brand recognition and equity. Imagine the possibilities if Rovers were a founder member of the football league, steeped in tradition and a premier league winner. Oh wait.... We can manage a local dairy and a local solicitors firm. We are (now) tinpot.

It’s like the old saying - “ Some people want to be part of the solution, and some people want to be part of the problem “. No prizes for guessing which category the Chicken Chokers want to be in !

Think of the folk we had working there at all levels of decision making roles 25 years ago and compare to now. Who there has a feel for Blackburn Rovers? Its heritage? Its traditions?

The article says that we have two ESC spots left for next season if Yuki is converted, but doesn't mention Mafoumbi who I thought needed one to come over last summer?

There are also some sweet people, but noticed you chose to focus on the bad.

This is why I could never be critical of anybody who is involved with any fans forum or liason groups. They deserve a bloody medal for turning up and trying to liase and have dialogue with the morons running the club.

I really like the shirt and I think I'll be buying one for the first time in a few seasons. I just hope they have another, more retro, shirt that they wear for the home match closest to the 150th anniversary date. Would probably get that one too tbf.

Is Accrington saying "Pasha Out" too?

No reversed halves tell me that there is everything wrong with it. Thick as mince this lot.