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But he definitely doesnt prove that we tend to get exactly what we need and/or upgrade our team in January. That was my initial point, there might be the odd serviceable squad player in that time admittedly.

I thought Sanderson was decent, certainly good enough to be on our bench. He starts every game for Derby and Baath doesn’t.

I never really understood the need for getting a neck full of ale before a game. As you get older and the weather gets colder the need for a piss can be a nuisance. Especially now everybody is in seats.

So you agree that we need a Hyam replacement AND a second centre back that could potentially be O'Riordan. My comments about what we need arent necessarily aligned with whether its likely in January. But we are massively short at centre back, we were even before we changed formation. We are short at right wing back. And we are now massively short up front because we play 2 instead of 1. The last response shows that you are really reluctant to accept the reality of how the club operates nowadays. Trying to spin signing players like Sanderson as proof that we do sign quality that we need in January and being bored by the suggestion that we dont get what we need.

It looks very expensive as well.

It isnt a factor, I specifically said it doesnt matter. Points per game is the important one, obviously. Im guessing you think that 18th in the table is above or at least on par with where youd place this set of players in the table.

Brilliant 👏

Derby day in Sheff: A Welcome message for the lovely Mr Wilder and the queue outside Spoons in Hillsborough at 7.30am 🙃

To non players that pass wouldn’t have looked much but if you’ve ever played you’ll know how good it was. Later on he hits an inch perfect cross field pass with his right foot. You don’t get many left footed players that are happy to use their right foot when the occasion calls for it.

They'll be moving back to United now after another capitulation at Anfield yesterday, but you point still stands Matty.

The most poignant words are "out there"

2-0 Rovers. QPR wont fancy a midweek in November, with less pressure on them to now get a result coupled with our form, I think we'll comfortably win.

Our Home form is appalling for some unknown reason and yet people ask why we only average around 11-12k home fans...can anyone lay the blame at the supporters? Our most optimistic league position being mid-table mediocrity,yeah! lets go celebrate. Like I say,God only knows what the QPR attendance will be looking at the Seat Booker!!😬

Considerably so, but my point being there is still a sizeable fanbase out there.

That has always been the case. What has changed is the way that defenders are asked to play.

We arent out of it though 9 clear from relegation 6 away from 6th we've played alot of the tougher opponents in the league already, keep playing like we can against the next run of fixtures and we can be adding points nicely

The bit that frustrated me the most was that I felt there were three wickets we gave away that were preventable, by just leaving it. As it was, they went for the shots and ended up out. Absolute basics.

But a lot less season ticket holders, maybe ?

Lets see our League position improve rapidly before getting carried away. Much to do here.

I bought the record.

The Byrds - Eight Miles High

It's a good job the game is at Ewood then.

That's fair enough. The change of heart is for the team, not the circus just for the record! We look like we can play that's for sure in the strange mix and abilities things are clicking. Just enjoying it for the now and not for the post Christmas crevasse that we fall into normally lol

Wins over actual points to be used to fit an argument now.

Nobody is taking Carter at the minute.