As ive posted previously and from multiple sources (at least 11) all either employees or players. All points to one man , the one man who arrived last summer and is universally hated across the club more than suhail. This aint about money, this is about the whole environment. One outgoing employee of many years who I had an hour chat with Saturday, puts the blame firmly at Gestedes door. Id not post this if I couldn't support it either , hence Suhail was so desperate to have Gestedes name removed from the minutes

Still not answering the question. Third or fourth time you're insisting that a true version of events has been given. How do you know that? If you can't answer that then stop insisting it is definitely the truth. It might not be.

I agree it's standard manager speak - JE was a master of this. Say a lot without saying anything. I genuinely prefer honesty, or at least more than just waffle. Why I liked JDT's interviews also.

Yes he has Mike, He was asked a question and he answered it. Should he lie to the Supporters who paid their hard earned money supporting their team Ismael wants to be build a team and get promote. He is frustrated over their contracts problems that happened before he joined the Club. After the Spanish training camp things were looking good but losing Brittain and Travis(by the looks of things) has played a big part in the last 10 days. You mean like Eustace who told Rovers Supporters Szmodics was injured until Szmodics a few months told fans the truth. What is wrong Ismael being open and honest with the supporters over the Travis situation? He was asked the question and he told the truth, is there something wrong with that?

It all depends on what sort of person you are. If it was me I’d be thinking - “ I’m not covering up for these bastards any longer “ . Maybe Ismael thought the same.

You haven't answered my question. No surprises because you can't. The question was how do you know that Ismael has been open and honest about the situation? You don't. Nobody does other than him and the people he works for. Even he might not know whether the version of events he has been given by the Regime is accurate or not. It certainly wouldn't be the first time they have misled or lied to one of their employees to shore up their Regime. Its funny. You are a big fan of the 'Head Coach' model yet for some reason think that Ismael will have intricate knowledge of all contract negotiations, which isn't really what happens under a head coach model, where the board and D of F deal with that side of things. I bet he has no idea other than being told player x isn't signing or getting a new deal. I know what Jackson has reported. He's another lavishing praise on Ismael for 'honesty' - I'll ask again - how does he know he's being honest or more importantly even if he is that he's not been fed a load of tripe by his employers?

It looks to me as if gestede is a new broom and Ismael was his appointment . I said weeks ago that this feels different rather than a continuation . Now, I'm not saying they know what they're doing , but I do think they're on the same page, there's no chance of success if they aren't. It seems to have been forgotten that we've signed the Hull defender, so maybe they're looking for a mix. Whatever happens, the recruitment department have it all to do.

Disagree, he could easily say things along the lines of not wanting to talk about the situation...He did not have to say what he said.

No one said to break it for one player. The issue is clearly how low that ceiling is in the first place. At least you are acknowledging the pattern. Couple of questions: - Do events of recent days and the potential to lose more key players in any way change your prediction of 6th? - you have been strong on certain opinions, justifying the clubs unwillingness to sign more than 1 more player, net of sales. You said I was wrong in suggesting that we cant just assume that say Montgomery/Michalski/Tyjon are all ready. And you previously have highlighted Kargbo as evidence of good recruitment. Have any of those opinions waivered?

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Alright Pasha... 😉

Well you can break it for the odd player and they have done in the past and were allegedly considering doing it for Szmodics. Despite cost cutting they also sanctioned a 20 grand a week contribution to Dennis loan wages, you just never know with this lot but cutting back wages so dramatically should allow for the odd quality player or two to be paid more, like Cantwell now for instance. The biggest needless issue is the fact they cannot even get or are prepared to pay academy graduates on a couple of grand a week to commit again because they are obviously not even offering them ten grand plus. That's just ridiculous.

Toeing the company line again chaddy

Could well be the Tim Sherwood effect, not comparing as players obviously but Timbo was a big character around the club and in the dressing room and so is Travis. A big loss when he went.

there is clearly a problem renewing contracts of key players but we have a wage structure and budget, You can't break that for one player and if you do then you created problems with other players you want to offer. I would be making Tronstad and Hyam are higher earners and new contract but we should be making them improved offers. As Ismael says that Rovers have Thanks for sharing that. I wonder if he was going more around in the coming months Go and listen to Elliott Jackson podcast today. Of Course Ismael will know exactly what we have offered to each player and how long the contract length

The party line for any manager in that situation is "things happen quickly in football, he's out player right now" or something to that effect. There was no need to state Trav wants to leave or Derby are offering to double his money... unless you've been asked to.

He was in a no win situation with the question He bats the question away and then Travis ends up at Derby a few days later them some would be saying "Ismael was covering up for regime above, he knew Travis was going " He is 100% going to go

Fair enough fella, a point we don't agree on.

Cheers chaddy. Even if Vi wasn't out of order saying Trav wants to leave (I think he was) surely he is by suggesting he's been offered "double" Who was it who cracked the joke "Attention everyone" " Operation Trav is a greedy bastard will start in 2 mins" Many a true word spoken in jest and all that.

£1.5m is a joke. They've made the club into such a toxic place that other clubs know it won't take much to turn a players head. Give it a couple of days and he'll have gone for an "undisclosed fee".

I’m not expecting him to but with such turnover I also don’t see the impact it will have on the team

No doubt that was said every time before we've played them, sorry but they often do.

Fair, and I'm not going to suggest that individualism and selfishness isn't more prevalent in football. I don't think it's the main factor at play here, though.

You clearly didnt read the message you quoted properly.

I think it’s pretty bad in sport. Cricket is worse in my opinion. When. I worked in industry we stuck together, we had to, because we knew if we didn’t we’d get abused by the management.