Id like to see first team players actually signing new deals to consider potential improvement on this matter. But maybe I am the one being unreasonable. He has said repeatedly that we will happily keep players and risk them leaving on frees.

Its pointless debate cos everytime I said one thing, its always no, no and no from you, So what's the point, I have posted my opinion, disagree fine, but I'm not going around and around in circles time after time

These original minutes don't give a true representation of what went on at all. Whoever agreed them with the Club should be ashamed. Unsurprisingly there is no real mention of the two points I flagged up, Suhail saying the owners were solely responsible for the appointment of the CEO - he's put them under real pressure there - and him throwing them under the bus regarding the women's team by saying it was their decision. Or the "Smoking gun" that proves what we've all long suspected, his admission that the owners' goal is merely to be "sustainable". I do hope someone gives the owners the opportunity to read the "real" minutes at some point! If Fans Forums are usually like this but all we see is sanitised minutes on the official website then my apologies may be due to the likes of K Hod for for accusing the members of being too passive over the months. If that's the case though whoever is recording what's gone on should be ashamed of colluding with the Club in producing doctored or heavily censored minutes for the official website. If however this meeting was a complete departure from the norm due to the introduction of a few feistier members then many congratulations are due to them - you've finally given the forum some teeth and made it relevant for the current situation. I bet the "Who are we playing in pre season" contingent were choking on their tea and biscuits!

I’m so over seeing Rovers “fans” comment on “negativity” and saying “who would buy us” or “they can’t put more in because of FFP”. The instagram post is full of it. Either we have an incredibly thick fan base or social media is full of club plants.

Selling Britain when he wouldn't sign is very much evidence. We'll see if there's any more evidence over the next few weeks.

Rovers has become what we used to call in the engineering industry a “ stopping off shop “. A company you went to until something else better turned up. One at which you had no intention of staying for any length of time but provided a wage for the time being.

Middle paragraph would suggest he and his team when doing due diligence wouldn’t have been aware of the noise around rovers? I find that very very hard to believe you don’t have to be a rovers supporter - type it in Google or speak to fellow agents or footballing people to ask JDT season he was unhappy come end of Jan (failed transfers) then the next summer tipped him over the edge if he naive then that’s on him il have zero sympathy for him

Still no mention of the ambition to get promoted 🙄

I wouldn't mind too much if that was all it was 😉

We need another striker we can't just rely on Gueye and Ohashi

loans are great if you can get a harvey elliot or van hecke,on the the hand you can end up with a moran and duberry who offered us absolutely nothing

I’d argue they could be the difference of keeping us in this league more than promotion. On the loan front, if Harvey Elliot moves this summer would he be the most expensive transfer to have ever played for us (based on transfer fee alone).

Least he read ours first Though not a chance in hell he wrote the one that went out. Clearly wrote by same person doing marketing

But we continue to tighten our belts. Why would we pay wages and a loan fee (several hundred £s) to develop someone else's player? They're not going to be the missing piece to fire us into the PL so it's literally setting fire to money.

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Very true. And also what we are lacking. We might have 9 (?) bodies once we get a winger in, but where are the goals? Where is the pace? The squad might look ok if fully fit, come winter when injuries start to pile up, could easily end up with subs benches not far off the Tomasson second season.

he might have been aware but that does`nt mean he`s not going to get fed up with the regime,especially if this complete gamble of a transfer model starts badly and gets worse,it might be success but i see us as being toothless up front and short of numbers and leadership at the back,as ever with rovers,it matters not who our manager is,he won`t be allowed to succeed

At the end of the day, he was offered a 3 and a half year deal at a Championship club in a league where he was probably going to struggle to get a job otherwise having failed in his last 2 jobs at this level. He wont have followed the club over numerous years like we all have. His first contact will have been with people who will have put a positive spin on it all. He may genuinely have some naivety that things will change too. Mistakes of the past? No evidence of them being left in the past. Tomasson for example was happy for a season when we bought 3 players. It was the summer after when the shit started to hit the fan.

Surprised he’s not interested in loans Chaddy. I have no reason to doubt what you say on that but it seems a strange decision as im sure other championship teams will be strengthened by some quality loan signings. We’ve historically (less so recently) done pretty well in that market.

How can you welcome people back to somewhere you’ve not been yourself for a decade?

I dont see 25 goals between them 2, but focusing on your 20-25 goals between our attacking midfielders. Thats what I am asking, where are they from? De Neve has never scored more than 2 in a season. Hedges never scores, youve even said hes "not that type of player," he got 1 last season. Cantwell got 1 from open play.

But he's giving it the spiel about "transition periods" and how they wanted players to extend contracts etc..... none have! If the penny hasnt dropped with him yet he's either not as bright as he appears or he's simply here to collect his pay check as long as possible.

Ismael always said he was fully aware of what had happened before he took the job yet he took the job

Agreed 100% were a stepping stone a free hit for any manager succeed at exceeding club expectations on a shoe string budget and get a move fail and itl be because we haven’t been sufficiently backed it’s near a win win - obviously if you go on a massive run of losses etc they likely lose there job but still a chance worth taking whilst getting paid