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In the US, well the NFL at least, they tend to finish the game as soon as the conditions improve. With a sparse or nonexistent crowd. It happens a fair bit with thunder storms. No idea if the pitch would have got any better as the rain eased, but that would have been the sensible choice if it had. Barring the obvious of just getting on with the last 10 mins anyway. Playing the last 10th of the game in suboptimal conditions is obviously a fairer conclusion than starting from scratch. But either way, I'll be shocked if that isn't the outcome. Probably just have to go out and beat them again.

Manxman chippy does John Bulls. Had one only last week. Wellington on Gally. Top Chippy. Holly Tree. I imagine Mill Hill chippy does them but not been in since it re-opened. John Bull, Chips n gravy wi a tea cake.

I asked the AI (Copilot) a few more questions and established that apparently, no game in any professional football league anywhere in the world has ever resumed a game from the score and minute it was abandoned, as far as the AI can find. Some amateur levels have experimented with it (seems mad that semi-pro and amateur levels can be more sensible about this shit IMO) and American Football and Basketball have been known to 'pause and resume due to weather or technical issues', not sure if that's the same thing or not. But I can say with about 99.99% certainty, this match is getting replayed in full starting at 0-0 and with 11 men v 11.

With a bit more probing, I managed to find 2 games where a team was allowed to keep a victory, but both were non-league. One of them the winners had a 3 goal lead and it was the 85th minute, the other one was only a 2-1, but it was the 88th minute.

Well lads, I think we can give up on the prospect of getting to finish this game, or being awarded the points. I asked AI to give me some precedents from the last 10 years, and I'd say we've no fucking chance. Apologies if these have been mentioned already (or if any are wrong due to AI innacuracy): 1. Blackpool vs Huddersfield Town (May 2015) Abandonment Time: 48th minute Reason: Fan protest—Blackpool supporters invaded the pitch. Score at Abandonment: 0–0 Decision: The Football League declared the match a 0–0 draw, as it had no bearing on promotion or relegation. 2. Charlton Athletic vs Doncaster Rovers (April 2023) Abandonment Time: 85th minute Reason: Medical emergency in the crowd. Score at Abandonment: 1–1 Decision: The match was replayed in full, despite being nearly complete. The EFL cited fairness and competition integrity. 3. Leyton Orient vs Hartlepool United (March 2021) Abandonment Time: 87th minute Reason: Floodlight failure. Score at Abandonment: 2–0 to Leyton Orient Decision: The match was replayed in full, even though Orient were winning and the game was nearly over. 4. Coventry City vs Rotherham United (February 2017) Abandonment Time: 85th minute Reason: Waterlogged pitch. Score at Abandonment: 1–0 to Coventry Decision: The match was replayed in full, despite the late stage and clear lead. So one game where the result stood, but only because it would definitely have zero impact on relegation or promotion. The other three all replayed in full, including a ridiculous situation where the game was abandoned in the 87th minute with Orient 2 nil up! That one seems to solidify we have no chance (with the slight caveat that the game was abandoned due to floodlight failure which, unless there was a blackout, would probably have distinctly been Orient's fault...but equally the EFL could ask us to prove we've done everything we can to improve our systems to prevent this flooding). The 4th game there is the most similar to ours, except that Rotherham didn't have 10 men, but Coventry were 5 minutes closer to victory. We're screwed. The second game was a playoff match btw, and with the score being level seems fair enough to me it was replayed. For what it's worth, Coventry and Leyton Orient both won their replays 5-0. So they actually ended up with more dominant wins. Knowing our luck, and with Ipswich being preseason favourites to win the league, I doubt it will go that way for us. And it's still another game we shouldn't have to play with our thin squad.

Climate change really but given their involvement in factory farming they will be making a decent contribution towards it. As I mentioned last time, this issue could be sorted out by installing a stormwater detention system for times like this but that would cost money. Since they can't even do the most basic maintenance there's no way while there's a hole in anybody's arse that this issue will be dealt with. The venky effect it is.

No, true apparently.

Im assuming fake news.

Isn't it the Venky effect that's to blame?

To be honest it's not a phrase I ever actually use myself - although plenty of other Valley people do!

Oh boy

I heard on national news some sink holes appeared in Darwen due to the heavy rain crazy times up north

That's not how the Venturi effect works. Flow in = Flow out Putting the pipe on an angle does nothing to change the hydraulic head pressure. I explained all of this the last time we had a game called off for a waterlogged pitch.

It’s not an option though and I’m sure other clubs in the league would baulk at that solution anyway.

Could we super soak the pitch next time it rains a bit

Be careful “for us tea” and things like “catch us bus” is dingle talk

All of the above.

Chippy on gally estate does them so does the one up Knuzden.

Just going back on topic, I’m surprised nobody has had a pop at the morons who sit openly in JW Stand. Fans are allowed to voice opinions and berating the stooges for 90mins seems like a good use of time to me. I don’t condone violence of course, but calling them a bunch of: ******* ****** **** for 90 mins is all in the game for me. Direct action required.

The club fighting out corner 😂 good one.

They are very simple valves with little to no maintenance, and can be manufactured to fit any diameter of pipe.

Well I’m glad the club is fighting our corner as it’s clear a few fans on here certainly wouldn’t if they were in a position to.

Mm, that’s a much more sophisticated valve than any I ever worked on. Basically the ones I worked on were designed just to prevent water flowing back up the out flow pipe.

What I find most extraordinary about the whole farce is the immediate (factual) pointing to the river levels as if that absolves us of all responsibility for our own ground. Random football fan/website - "What a joke that Championship Blackburn can't keep their pitch drained in this day and age!" Ultra-defensive Rovers fan - "I think you'll find it's not our fault because river levels..." This argument completely ignores the absurd point that our drainage system will only work during those periods when rain is not heavy enough to fill a small river. Now it could have cost us valuable points. Just perhaps we need a new system. Wonder if they'll stump the necessary cash...

A non return valve allows flow in only one direction. It is at work all the time, It never shuts off flow from the ground to the river, but does not allow a flow from the river to the ground. The venturi effect of the positioning of the outlet allows for the flow into the river, when the river level is above the outlet.