Cricket

[wilsdenrover]

Smith given out in 2nd test, Carey given not out in this one 🤔

[Gav]

30 minutes ago, wilsdenrover said:

Smith given out in 2nd test, Carey given not out in this one 🤔

BBG Sports, the company that owns Snicko, has accepted culpability for the mistake.

"Given that Alex Carey admitted he had hit the ball in question, the only conclusion that can be drawn from this, is that the Snicko operator at the time must have selected the incorrect stump mic for audio processing," BBG told BBC Sport.

"In light of this, BBG Sports takes full responsibility for the error."

[wilsdenrover]

Just now, Gav said:

BBG Sports, the company that owns Snicko, has accepted culpability for the mistake.

"Given that Alex Carey admitted he had hit the ball in question, the only conclusion that can be drawn from this, is that the Snicko operator at the time must have selected the incorrect stump mic for audio processing," BBG told BBC Sport.

"In light of this, BBG Sports takes full responsibility for the error."

But there was a difference between the sound and picture in the previous test too.

On that occasion the third umpire gave it out anyway, this time he didn’t.

As always with these things it’s the inconsistency which is frustrating.

 

[oldjamfan1]

The Aussies (with 2 notable exceptions) throwing away wickets England style today.
 

If we can nip out the tail without much further damage this is a below par score. Then we have to FUCKING BAT PROPERLY and keep the convicts in the field for two days.

[K-Hod]

Dropping Khawaja when he was on 5, then him going on to score 82- it's this kind of thing that usually ends up being costly.

[jim mk2]

Carey should have been given out on 72 but the Snicko operators got it wrong. They also got it wrong - again in the convicts' favour - when Smith was given out in the first Test

Same old Aussies etc etc

Catches win matches and England dropped another today, costing 80 runs.

 

[oldjamfan1]

10 minutes ago, jim mk2 said:

Carey should have been given out on 72 but the Snicko operators got it wrong. They also got it wrong - again in the convicts' favour - when Smith was given out in the first Test

Same old Aussies etc etc

Catches win matches and England dropped another today, costing 80 runs.

 

Yeah it was a straightforward grab as well. We did hold on to two pearlers as well, to be fair.

[Cherry Blue]

5 hours ago, jim mk2 said:

Carey should have been given out on 72 but the Snicko operators got it wrong. They also got it wrong - again in the convicts' favour - when Smith was given out in the first Test

Same old Aussies etc etc

Catches win matches and England dropped another today, costing 80 runs.

 

If Carey knew he had hit it, should he not walk?

[Tyrone Shoelaces]

11 minutes ago, Cherry Blue said:

If Carey knew he had hit it, should he not walk?

Those days have gone I’m afraid.

[oldjamfan1]

They crucified Broad for the same thing. Bet they’re a bit quieter about this one.

[Bronzed A Donis]

Finely poised. First hour tonight is big. Skittle them quickly and we should look to keep them out there 4-5 sessions and wear them down and take a healthy lead. I fear if we dont and have to chase 4th innings against Lyon.

If they add 50-60 as Starc can do and momentum shifts, I hope we've enough beligerence to see off the new ball.

[jim mk2]

Crawley and Pope …. The rabbits of England cricket. Hopeless

[Norbert Rassragr]

Stokes, McCullum and all the rest. Fuck off and don't come back. 

[oldjamfan1]

3 hours ago, jim mk2 said:

Crawley and Pope …. The rabbits of England cricket. Hopeless

I agree. Crawley got a decent delivery but words fail me with Pope. 

[Bronzed A Donis]

Pathetic

[47er]

Amateurs seem to have taken over again. Totally inadequate preparation, (they knew best) and a basic failure to understand that there are 5 days in a Test match. Feel so sorry for the thousands of England supporters now stuck with a dead series.

It seems to me we can  now only play at home on our wickets.

Edited December 18, 2025 by 47er

[jim mk2]

...... and even then screw up because of the stupid Bazball mentality. England should have won the previous Ashes series and last summer's India series but threw them away through the silly first Test declaration in the former and mindless batting in the last Test in the latter. It worked for a while and was exciting to watch but now it doesn't. McCullum should resign after this series. 

[K-Hod]

Simply not good enough.

Lots of changes needed all over the place tbh.

[chaddyrovers]

Where is the foot work from Pope and Duckett in their dismissal? Nothing. 

Crawley, Root and Brook got good deliveries but could their footwork been better? Probably in Crawley and Brook. 

Stokes dig in and show strength and character to fight. 

My biggest questions are:-

1. Are their better batsmen knocking the door in county championship? Top 3 run scores last season were Sibley, Hameed and Lees, who had their chances at Test level and failed. So are players like McKinney, Haines, Bethall ready to step up and coming for those 3? 

2. Is it time to bring in James Rew as the main keeper and bat 7? Only 21, but performances like last season, surely it only time with Jamie Smith moving up the order?

3. Did we pick the right bowlers? You look at Neser and Boland playing and you asking if Sam Cook or Matthew Fisher should have been taken to Australia? 

4. Why didnt we asked for minimum of 2 warm up games before the first test?

32 minutes ago, K-Hod said:

Simply not good enough.

Lots of changes needed all over the place tbh.

What changes would you like to?.

Change Captain? Change McCullum? Change which players? 

Can I ask anyone on here, does anyone watch any county cricket? If so, anyone stood out? 

[wilsdenrover]

How many of the players would be better if the team’s mentality was changed?

How many are just poor players ‘full stop’?

[chaddyrovers]

4 minutes ago, wilsdenrover said:

How many of the players would be better if the team’s mentality was changed?

How many are just poor players ‘full stop’?

Team mentality? 

Stokes digged in and show some character. Only can do the same? 

[K-Hod]

17 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

 

What changes would you like to?.

Change Captain? Change McCullum? Change which players? 

Can I ask anyone on here, does anyone watch any county cricket? If so, anyone stood out? 

I think McCullum and Rob Key need to go.

Stokes, I'm not so sure on- I think he's certainly one I'd keep around, but I imagine he'd end here as a test player and just focus on short forms of the game from here.

What annoys me is doing the same things over and over again, despite these ways failing time and again.

And the complete lack of accountability. They've messed up, regularly, just own it.

Arrogant was about right tbh, either that, or the most pig-headed nature you've ever known.

What stings the most for me, is that I don't think Australia have even had to hit top gear to beat us comfortably. 

[chaddyrovers]

12 minutes ago, K-Hod said:

I think McCullum and Rob Key need to go.

Stokes, I'm not so sure on- I think he's certainly one I'd keep around, but I imagine he'd end here as a test player and just focus on short forms of the game from here.

What annoys me is doing the same things over and over again, despite these ways failing time and again.

And the complete lack of accountability. They've messed up, regularly, just own it.

Arrogant was about right tbh, either that, or the most pig-headed nature you've ever known.

What stings the most for me, is that I don't think Australia have even had to hit top gear to beat us comfortably. 

Is ripping up again going to change things, would Pope or Duckett play different under another head coach? I'm not unsure. They played that way and I don't think they can play different. 

Maybe, the lack of accountability is because Stokes and McCullum think these are best 7 batsmen in county cricket and we don't have players knocking on the door. Would a Dom Sibley or Hameed been better choice than Pope. Should Bethall play even tho he hasn't even got a first class hundred?  maybe we need to restructure the County Cricket to focus more on quality or quantity? 

[K-Hod]

13 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

Is ripping up again going to change things, would Pope or Duckett play different under another head coach? I'm not unsure. They played that way and I don't think they can play different. 

Maybe, the lack of accountability is because Stokes and McCullum think these are best 7 batsmen in county cricket and we don't have players knocking on the door. Would a Dom Sibley or Hameed been better choice than Pope. Should Bethall play even tho he hasn't even got a first class hundred?  maybe we need to restructure the County Cricket to focus more on quality or quantity? 

Listen, I think there's a lot of credence in what you're saying.

I just think, with different coaching, these players are probably capable of playing differently.

[chaddyrovers]

13 minutes ago, K-Hod said:

Listen, I think there's a lot of credence in what you're saying.

I just think, with different coaching, these players are probably capable of playing differently.

I'm not disagreeing with you over McCullum and the staff. I think our pre test series preparations like a couple of proper warm up games were wrong. I think Vaughan, Tufnell, Botham, Lloyd have slammed that decision. You can not go to Australia and not prepare correctly.