thenodrog Posted March 28, 2015 Posted March 28, 2015 Oh Dear! http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/32096709 "Since the World Cup we have been fantastic. A lot of teams around Europe will be looking at this team and will be frightened." Indeed so. I believe San Marino, Luxemberg and Iceland in particular.
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Audax Posted March 28, 2015 Posted March 28, 2015 Indeed so. I believe San Marino, Luxemberg and Iceland in particular. October last year, Iceland 2 0 Netherlands. http://eloratings.net/Iceland.htm I don't know who is playing for them, but they were also in the playoffs to go to the last World Cup and came up short. They are playing now against Kazakhstan.
Audax Posted March 28, 2015 Posted March 28, 2015 Iceland, Fifa #35, http://uk.soccerway.com/teams/rankings/fifa/?ICID=TN_03_05_01 not bad and seeing who they are above in the rankings. On the other hand, in their last 2 friendlies, a draw and defeating Canada by a goal. Canada is not that strong right now.
Andyblue2 Posted March 28, 2015 Posted March 28, 2015 October last year, Iceland 2 0 Netherlands. http://eloratings.net/Iceland.htm I don't know who is playing for them, but they were also in the playoffs to go to the last World Cup and came up short. They are playing now against Kazakhstan. Eidur just scored too
Husky Posted March 28, 2015 Posted March 28, 2015 Oh Dear! http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/32096709 "Since the World Cup we have been fantastic. A lot of teams around Europe will be looking at this team and will be frightened." LOL. Ridiculous! England always lose to the first decent team they play............it was the same even when we had a much better team than now.
LWX Posted March 28, 2015 Posted March 28, 2015 it happened to owen and it's happening/happened to rooney... they lost their raw pace of youth and suddenly they aren't the same threat. you could say that the same, about shearer even, for us he had an extra yard to his game that made him that bit more dangerous than he was for newcastle
Audax Posted March 28, 2015 Posted March 28, 2015 Wales, big win 3-nil in Israel. Aaron Ramsey, 1 goal, Bale 2 goals. Who knows what they could do in a Euro. Wales on top of group B. So, there chances are way better than average, they will have to fool with Belgium and Israel too. Top 2 spots go to the Euro automatically. Wales already has a draw with Belgium.
Baz Posted March 28, 2015 Posted March 28, 2015 Wales, big win 3-nil in Israel. Aaron Ramsey, 1 goal, Bale 2 goals. Who knows what they could do in a Euro. Wales on top of group B. So, there chances are way better than average, they will have to fool with Belgium and Israel too. Top 2 spots go to the Euro automatically. Wales already has a draw with Belgium. Israel should be disqualified on the basis they aren't in Europe. There would be some much bigger derby games against Iran, Iraq and Saudi Arabia for them. Good luck to Wales though, they aint half had to wait long enough to be in position to qualify.
Moderation Lead K-Hod Posted March 28, 2015 Moderation Lead Posted March 28, 2015 They've a really tough group as well Wales, will be an achievement getting out of that one! The Dutch drew at home to Turkey tonight. They've a lot of work to do to qualify!
Amo Posted March 28, 2015 Posted March 28, 2015 Israel should be disqualified on the basis they aren't in Europe. We always turn a blind eye to Israel.
Andyblue2 Posted March 28, 2015 Posted March 28, 2015 I think Azerbaijan is knocking in the door of Asia too....
Audax Posted March 28, 2015 Posted March 28, 2015 Israel should be disqualified on the basis they aren't in Europe.There would be some much bigger derby games against Iran, Iraq and Saudi Arabia for them. Good luck to Wales though, they aint half had to wait long enough to be in position to qualify. Australia aren't in Asia but that is where they play now, seems they even won the Asian Cup this year, they defeated South Korea: It really wasn't fair to Australia to have to play in Oceania really and always have to play against one of the South American outsiders to qualify for the World Cup or at least some people see it that way. I know Saudi Arabians and the Iranians dislike each other, you find Iran football talk on the web and they don't even like it that that one World Cup is scheduled for Qatar and they want to boycott it. Now, it seems Iran and Saudi Arabia are fighting or close to it in Yemen, so I'm not sure how those two teams will play in the future.
Andyblue2 Posted March 28, 2015 Posted March 28, 2015 Can you imagine the magnet for nutcases the World Cup will be in Qatar. ? You wouldn't catch me anywhere near the place.
Gav Posted March 28, 2015 Posted March 28, 2015 Rooney is obviously a good player. To suggest otherwise would be ridiculous. He's also had some good games in Europe for Manchester united. However in a lot of them games he has been surrounded by teammates of similar and sometimes superior ability. For England when it comes to big games in major tournaments, he hasn't performed. My opinion is because he isn't incredibly good enough at anything in particular to turn a game when you need someone to. He's not slow but he's not quick. He can head but he's not aerially dominant. He's strong but not strong enough to bully top centre halves. He's tricky but can't go on mazy dribbles. He's technically good in England's team but not as good as the Spanish or South Americans. He can play a killer pass but doesn't have the greatest of vision. As a footballer he can do the lot. That makes him a very good domestic footballer. However he doesn't have one stand out attribute. In my eyes that what makes him short of being great. His reputation was also built on breaking into the Everton team so young, a big money move to Man United at a young age and an England debut at a young age. Unfortunately Scholes is probably right. Rooney should be at his peak now. However the slimmer, quicker Rooney of 2004 was better than the one we see now. Hope he proves me wrong mind you. Problem with Rooney is the press build him up to such a level that he can't possibly live up to expectations. He's a good player not doubt about that but he's not brilliant as many would have us believe. The number of mediocre games he’s had for the national side far outweighs the number of good games he’s had, but no manager has had the balls to drop him, Hodgson made him captain to avoid having to deal with the situation in my book. But all this said, he’s still our best player, but maybe that says more about the state of English football than anything else. Can you imagine the magnet for nutcases the World Cup will be in Qatar. ? You wouldn't catch me anywhere near the place. Having witnessed hundreds of England fans rioting in several places around Europe in years gone by It should be a walk in the park these days! But yes I take your point Andy, security will be an issue.
thenodrog Posted March 29, 2015 Posted March 29, 2015 it happened to owen and it's happening/happened to rooney... they lost their raw pace of youth and suddenly they aren't the same threat. you could say that the same, about shearer even, for us he had an extra yard to his game that made him that bit more dangerous than he was for newcastle Owens game was all about pace. Rooney in fairness has much more in his locker and does seem to be adapting as he gets older. His speed may be diminishing (although he was never a real speedster) but his footballing brain and his physical strength are as they always were. As for Shearer the terrible ankle injury that he suffered playing Everton occurring on the same leg that he ruptured his cruciate ligament reduced him to something of a plodder in comparison to the kid we bought from Southampton. Those NUFC fans simply don't know how good he really was although they do think they do.
chaddyrovers Posted March 31, 2015 Author Posted March 31, 2015 He did play midfield for Rovers for a number of games. But isn't a international midfield. Is Carrick injured? Shame Wilshere isn't fit.
Proudtobeblue&white Posted March 31, 2015 Posted March 31, 2015 He did play midfield for Rovers for a number of games. But isn't a international midfield. Is Carrick injured? Shame Wilshere isn't fit. Woy playing him as the bottom of the diamond in defensive role, but not impressing imo Aye, Carrick on, Jones back where he belongs......
chaddyrovers Posted March 31, 2015 Author Posted March 31, 2015 Carrick or Wilshere playing there would be miles better. I just see that Carrick has come on.
Proudtobeblue&white Posted March 31, 2015 Posted March 31, 2015 Walcott always seems to flatter to deceive, a better King, pace, but too offered injured, like King. Is it something about explosive football players? They seem to injure too easily. Michael Owen? Is it the same elsewhere? Pundits say not enough movement - ffs, why not? Italy have us in their pocket!
Baz Posted March 31, 2015 Posted March 31, 2015 Same old Hodgson, plays a decent team, and has no idea how to set the side up.
Proudtobeblue&white Posted March 31, 2015 Posted March 31, 2015 Same old Hodgson, plays a decent team, and has no idea how to set the side up. Like watching tut Rovers!
Proudtobeblue&white Posted March 31, 2015 Posted March 31, 2015 Cheillini has got away with so much, welcome to proper international footy Harry Kane, wore you like a glove!
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