Premier League

[Mattyblue]

Not quite sure how a young team manager is particularly comparable to Jack in the first place, but Vinner gonna Vinner.

[Mike E]

38 minutes ago, Vinjay said:

Amorim trying to deflect blame to his technical director (apparently not allowed to say his name) recently in the usual backstabbing that goes on at that club. Jack Walker never behaved like that hopefully he will get what he deserves soon. 

But you didn’t say his name, so…

[speeeeeeedie]

15 hours ago, Blue blood said:

This is what gets me. Most of the players they have are talented and have shown they can do it at other clubs. Granted theres a few plodders but even excluding the new £200 million strike force,  last season they had some good players. Everyone just seems to get worse there. Shows how rotten the club is. It's a shame... 

Cunha and Mbuemo should be good signings as they are proven Prem quality. Sesko is somewhat unknown but came in on a big fee so will have the expectations to match. However, it remains to be seen if any of them can score 20 league goals in a season. Ultimately I think they won't.

The club is rotten (nowhere near as rotten as Rovers, mind). I have so sympathy for them, their fans, Ratcliffe, the Glazers, or Amorim. 

Amorim is puzzling. 12 months ago Mainoo was coming off playing for England at the Euros. Now he can't get a kick. Strange. His adherence to 3-4-3 will be the undoing of him. He doesn't have the players to play it, nor is it a formation that breeds success. Off the top of my head I think that the only Prem winning team playing 3 at the back was Conte's Chelsea, and they had Diego Costa banging them in.  

In summary give him a 5 year extension with hope that the UK government dig their heels in on the rail hub and  make them pay for their new stadium

[RoverDom]

Did anyone notice sesko was 10th penalty taker last night? 

Either the guy has has put himself there or the coaching staff put him last. Either way not a ringing endorsement of your big money striker. 

[DE.]

Unless he was carrying an injury it was pretty weird. If I'm a United fan I'd be equally concerned that our new £74m striker couldn't score or even look especially useful against a team from League Two, mind. 

[DeeCee]

I would have scored with a broken leg if I cost that much FFS!

[chaddyrovers]

4 hours ago, RoverDom said:

Did anyone notice sesko was 10th penalty taker last night? 

Either the guy has has put himself there or the coaching staff put him last. Either way not a ringing endorsement of your big money striker. 

does he normally take penalties?  

[Upside Down]

5 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

does he normally take penalties?  

He's a striker, why wouldn't he?

[roversfan99]

Strikers dont always take penalties. So not taking the 1st or 2nd, fine.

But to be the very last outfield player to take one.

[RoverDom]

1 hour ago, chaddyrovers said:

does he normally take penalties?  

No idea. Maybe not. But a £70m + striker not taking one of the first 9 penalties against a league 2 club is embarrassing. 

[roversfan99]

@chaddyrovers do you think Amorim warrants the sack?

[chaddyrovers]

8 minutes ago, roversfan99 said:

@chaddyrovers do you think Amorim warrants the sack?

Its be a bit daft that given you have just back him in the transfer market and got rid of players he doesn't want. They have made their bed now. Now lie it in

[roversfan99]

44 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

Its be a bit daft that given you have just back him in the transfer market and got rid of players he doesn't want. They have made their bed now. Now lie it in

His win record is worse than Coyle and Gary Neville after the same number of games. He sticks to a formation that clearly doesnt suit the players he has.

What sort of attitude is "weve made our bed now lie in it?" Self punishment?

Would Mbuemo and Cunha not be useful to any semi competent manager.

I hope they keep him. Hes doing a dreadful job.

[chaddyrovers]

52 minutes ago, roversfan99 said:

His win record is worse than Coyle and Gary Neville after the same number of games. He sticks to a formation that clearly doesnt suit the players he has.

What sort of attitude is "weve made our bed now lie in it?" Self punishment?

Would Mbuemo and Cunha not be useful to any semi competent manager.

I hope they keep him. Hes doing a dreadful job.

United choose this head coach for a reasons. Would I have pick him? No I wouldn't. They now made their bed, lie in it. 

[roversfan99]

4 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

United choose this head coach for a reasons. Would I have pick him? No I wouldn't. They now made their bed, lie in it. 

What utterly bizarre logic.

Why not replace him if hes turned out to be a dud?

[chaddyrovers]

39 minutes ago, roversfan99 said:

What utterly bizarre logic.

Why not replace him if hes turned out to be a dud?

Given you backed him in the market now with a few signings, give him the time to see whether he is dud or not

[davulsukur]

7 hours ago, chaddyrovers said:

Given you backed him in the market now with a few signings, give him the time to see whether he is dud or not

How much time do you give him?

He has gained less points (28) than PL games he's been in charge for (29).

Now you're saying the club have signed players he doesn't want, probably best all round if he left now.

[roversfan99]

Its not like the players signed are specific to his system. In fact, theyd be probably better in a different system.

[Ossydave]

14 minutes ago, roversfan99 said:

Its not like the players signed are specific to his system. In fact, theyd be probably better in a different system.

That's the stupid thing about it, added to the fact he's now put one of their best players out of position making him far less effective (Bruno) to accommodate them.

No way he lasts till Christmas, he'll be extremely lucky to see Halloween in fact, unless they apply Chaddy logic and lie in their bed 🤣

Not ideal timing to be playing the twats up the road like, they'll fancy a draw at least against United now 😕

[chaddyrovers]

21 minutes ago, davulsukur said:

How much time do you give him?

He has gained less points (28) than PL games he's been in charge for (29).

Now you're saying the club have signed players he doesn't want, probably best all round if he left now.

No my point, maybe I wasn't clear enough is they have got rid of players he doesn't want Garnacho and Rashford. He wanted players like Cunha and they back him. 

I would give him till November but how many reset can you have 

[davulsukur]

22 hours ago, Vinjay said:

Amorim trying to deflect blame to his technical director (apparently not allowed to say his name) recently in the usual backstabbing that goes on at that club. Jack Walker never behaved like that hopefully he will get what he deserves soon. 

Let it go, Elsa. It's been 30 years.

[Tyrone Shoelaces]

4 hours ago, chaddyrovers said:

No my point, maybe I wasn't clear enough is they have got rid of players he doesn't want Garnacho and Rashford. He wanted players like Cunha and they back him. 

I would give him till November but how many reset can you have 

I won’t matter how long they give him, or anybody else. The whole club has become unmanageable. The manager capable of bringing them success doesn’t exist. It’s like the “ Titanic “ before it hit the iceberg.

[DE.]

He said last season he'd walk away if he wasn't taking the team forward during this campaign. His interview after the Grimsby match made it sound like he was close to following through on that promise. Rumours that he offered to resign last season as well. 

Can't see how it ends well for Amorim at this point. That image of him cowering on the bench whilst his team lost a penalty shootout to Grimsby will haunt him forevermore. Absolutely brutal. Lose to Burnley and I wouldn't be surprised to see him offer to resign (either for the first time, or again, depending on who you believe). 

One of the most toxic situations I've ever seen, there. They underachieved post-Ferguson, significantly, but they're plumbing entirely new depths at the moment. 

[DeeCee]

26 minutes ago, DE. said:

He said last season he'd walk away if he wasn't taking the team forward during this campaign. His interview after the Grimsby match made it sound like he was close to following through on that promise. Rumours that he offered to resign last season as well. 

Can't see how it ends well for Amorim at this point. That image of him cowering on the bench whilst his team lost a penalty shootout to Grimsby will haunt him forevermore. Absolutely brutal. Lose to Burnley and I wouldn't be surprised to see him offer to resign (either for the first time, or again, depending on who you believe). 

One of the most toxic situations I've ever seen, there. They underachieved post-Ferguson, significantly, but they're plumbing entirely new depths at the moment. 

It's absolutely fantastic 😁

[Tyrone Shoelaces]

It looks like the players have given up on him and are just treading water until the new mug comes in. A great time to play them !

When we used to play them in the “ Fergietime “ era you had to win there to get a draw !

Edited 3 hours ago by Tyrone Shoelaces