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Posted
1 hour ago, DutchRover said:

Someone quoted earlier that the Indian Gov has like a 95% win rate in cases they take to trial for financial stuff, so we can be pretty certain that:

A - Venkys are guilty of what they are accused of

and

B - Venkys will lose the case; hence no funding for us

Win or lose there is also the 20% money transfer tariff that everyone seems to have forgotten about.

There is no way they are returning to previous funding levels whatever happens as that was allegedly responsible for the 20% funding cut that sent JDT into a tailspin.

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Posted
8 minutes ago, Forever Blue said:

Are there any towns or villages saying ‘Venky’s Out’? 
 

Getting Pasha out, like getting Waggott out, will achieve the square root of fuck all.

It tightenes the screw, but yes the ultimate aim has to be to remove the owners.

Posted
12 hours ago, Forever Blue said:

Are there any towns or villages saying ‘Venky’s Out’? 
 

Getting Pasha out, like getting Waggott out, will achieve the square root of fuck all.

Totally different situation. Waggott was due to go soon and had very little recent contact with the owners and very little influence over the past 12 months or so. I think Venky's lost faith in him a while ago.

Pasha is the one who feeds all the false positives back to India. They rely on him totally. He is the one who is driving the cost cutting, aiming to sell any asset worth a few bob and telling the owners all will be well.

They will not sack Pasha but he hates any public exposure. If we can keep up the pressure on him personally to a point where he decides he has had enough and he resigns, it could mean Venky's would have to become more directly involved and possibly make them realise what a shit show it really is. They may not care too much, but getting rid of Pasha would cause far more problems for them than getting rid of Waggott.

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Posted
1 hour ago, Crimpshrine said:

Totally different situation. Waggott was due to go soon and had very little recent contact with the owners and very little influence over the past 12 months or so. I think Venky's lost faith in him a while ago.

Pasha is the one who feeds all the false positives back to India. They rely on him totally. He is the one who is driving the cost cutting, aiming to sell any asset worth a few bob and telling the owners all will be well.

They will not sack Pasha but he hates any public exposure. If we can keep up the pressure on him personally to a point where he decides he has had enough and he resigns, it could mean Venky's would have to become more directly involved and possibly make them realise what a shit show it really is. They may not care too much, but getting rid of Pasha would cause far more problems for them than getting rid of Waggott.

I am pretty convinced, that if Pasha goes, it will be game over for the owners.

As you have pointed out, he is the one feeding back to the owners and has tried to hide some of the unrest from them and made things out, to be a whole lot healthier than they are.

More people are aware that he does not like publicity and it has been posted on here, that he actually fled the building, when a fans meeting, involving him, was due to get underway.

He avoided getting involved in any of the fan meetings, until he was shamed into attending one and I think the tactic of focusing on him, is a good one.

For anyone prepared to criticise, fine, as it won't suit everyone, as these things never do, but fairs fair, anyone criticising,, needs to put as much effort into their ideas too, as sitting back and criticising others, but but nothing yourself, is without doubt less effective in getting our club back. 

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Posted
24 minutes ago, lraC said:

I have no idea, but I doff my cap to those who have done this, as sitting back and doing nothing, is not an option, so anyone prepared to roll their sleeves up and get stuck in, has to be admired, not criticised, surely. 

I didn’t criticise, just stated the obvious.

 

 

Posted
18 minutes ago, lraC said:

I am pretty convinced, that if Pasha goes, it will be game over for the owners.

As you have pointed out, he is the one feeding back to the owners and has tried to hide some of the unrest from them and made things out, to be a whole lot healthier than they are.

More people are aware that he does not like publicity and it has been posted on here, that he actually fled the building, when a fans meeting, involving him, was due to get underway.

He avoided getting involved in any of the fan meetings, until he was shamed into attending one and I think the tactic of focusing on him, is a good one.

For anyone prepared to criticise, fine, as it won't suit everyone, as these things never do, but fairs fair, anyone criticising,, needs to put as much effort into their ideas too, as sitting back and criticising others, but but nothing yourself, is without doubt less effective in getting our club back. 

Certainly well done to those who put in a great effort. Superb idea.

But I'm not convinced they'll sack him, they are too stubborn and proud.

Nor am I convinced that sacking him would mean the end of them---for the same reasons.

But it would be some sort victory for us  to celebrate if only short -term.

I think it'll be the financial situation that will finally do for them and they'll clear off when we are in a lower division and crowds have dwindled further.

More misery to come I believe.

 

 

Posted
29 minutes ago, 47er said:

Certainly well done to those who put in a great effort. Superb idea.

But I'm not convinced they'll sack him, they are too stubborn and proud.

Nor am I convinced that sacking him would mean the end of them---for the same reasons.

But it would be some sort victory for us  to celebrate if only short -term.

I think it'll be the financial situation that will finally do for them and they'll clear off when we are in a lower division and crowds have dwindled further.

More misery to come I believe.

 

 

I don't think they will sack him either but I know he really flaps under pressure and hates publicity. He may decide he's had enough if he gest plenty of flak publicly.

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Posted

They'll not sack him and if he left we'd probably get the London based finance guy who was appointed to the board rocking up and overseeing matters.

I sense he might be behind a lot of the recent cuts on top of the thumbscrews the other two were already operating. Just like the rest of them he'd then spot his own opportunity to ride the gravy train and enjoy all the perks.

Posted
1 hour ago, Crimpshrine said:

I don't think they will sack him either but I know he really flaps under pressure and hates publicity. He may decide he's had enough if he gest plenty of flak publicly.

I think the coalition had Waggott and Pasha in their sights and think that is the logical way, given the difficulty in getting any traction in India.

If Pasha does crumble, as expected the foundations are ripped away and I expect it to topple. 

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