Venky’s (& Suhail) Out Protest Ideas

[wilsdenrover]

42 minutes ago, TheRevAshton said:

Could it be? Is he... gone? 👀

Or just a return to the shadows.

[lraC]

7 minutes ago, wilsdenrover said:

Or just a return to the shadows.

It was probably not common knowledge, where he lived. Whoever owns the property has done so for 27 years, so I suspect he was renting it.

Assuming he is to remain in his post for now, he needs to live somewhere and can’t hide from everyone. 

 

[Wheelton Blue]

27 minutes ago, lraC said:

It was probably not common knowledge, where he lived. Whoever owns the property has done so for 27 years, so I suspect he was renting it.

Assuming he is to remain in his post for now, he needs to live somewhere and can’t hide from everyone. 

 

Waggot's old gaff at Mellor?

[Browjd]

2 hours ago, Exiled_Rover said:

What's the starting point for 'credible offers' though?

If the Venkys want their £200m back (I remain unconvinced it's all their money, but I digress) I can't see any of us having such contacts - nor is the club worth anything like that. 

It's an easy bar for the (now two) stooges to set though, knowing nobody is going to clear it. 

Forget the £200M - that is not happening.

It's about Venkys understanding that this asset is a write off (happens every day in the private capital world) and cutting their losses/getting as much as they can. As per @RoverDom it WILL become £300M, £400M... because we are not progressing upwards in any way with the current strategy - it simply will not allow us to grow.

Where this all falls down and unfortunately seems to be more and more the case, is if they just don't care and are treating Rovers not as an investible but a trophy asset, then it really is game over with this strategic direction. 

[lraC]

31 minutes ago, Wheelton Blue said:

Waggot's old gaff at Mellor?

Good shout

[lraC]

15 minutes ago, Browjd said:

Forget the £200M - that is not happening.

It's about Venkys understanding that this asset is a write off (happens every day in the private capital world) and cutting their losses/getting as much as they can. As per @RoverDom it WILL become £300M, £400M... because we are not progressing upwards in any way with the current strategy - it simply will not allow us to grow.

Where this all falls down and unfortunately seems to be more and more the case, is if they just don't care and are treating Rovers not as an investible but a trophy asset, then it really is game over with this strategic direction. 

The often quoted £20m per annum loss, means they will be in for another £100m in the next 5 years.

Would anyone on here, carry on paying their mortgage, if their house was dropping in value by more than the Mortgage payment every year, unless they had a body buried in the back garden.

I guess that simile is ironic, given the finding on Nuttall Street, when Uncle Jack was redeveloping the ground. 

[arbitro]

I have been told that Suhail is back in India but I don't know why.

[lraC]

7 minutes ago, arbitro said:

I have been told that Suhail is back in India but I don't know why.

Hopefully, to get his marching orders.

[Tomphil2]

Telling them they don't need to send any money hes got it all in hand.

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4 hours ago, Browjd said:

100% agree there are limits to what can be done if you do not have a channel of communication.

I still believe one of the ways to draw out Venkys into actually doing something (or not which still speaks volumes) is to actively source interested investors. Through our network, we must have some corporate financier, private equity professionals, well connected HNWs that could potentially gauge interest? The three amigos (now two) said that they would be present 'credible offers' to Venkys so let's find them....This interest (regardless of how concrete) would provide strong ammo for the Coalition to present to media. 

Would pushing that aspect of things not make them set their stall out as "that's the only reason we'll leave" and end up not finding anyone for many more years when it's too late?

Anything is worth a shot though

 

[...]

3 hours ago, glen9mullan said:

Just a recap

Two and a half months ago we had No Coalition. We had Jack a brfcs poster reaching out and hitting a brick wall to try and get something moving. His passion and drive was something I felt I could get involved with and many others felt the same and also joined to form a powerful voice.

Fast forward to present day.

Every supporter group bar one and we are trying to get this one is part of the Coalition.

Our first action was applying pressure on Suhail, Waggott and Gestede with the total vote of no confidence. 

This lead to the three coming out into the open and one has now gone.

The pressure on the other two will remain.

The global press our now covering our story and desire for the removal of the Raos and their band of merry men.

Our story is going back into parliament and we've now got the MPs backing the Coalition.

We've so much going on across a near 30 person panel it's quite extraordinary in such a short space of time.

Things evolve by the minute and it's hard graft,  extremely hard graft as our family time and in some cases taking days of work is being totally used up to force a better future.

We are still in our infancy and many things need to be agreed, formulated and developed. 

We have no funds , just hard grafting people trying to make a positive difference for something we commonly share, our club.

Given the democratic make up (we don't need politics) we have to balance everything and get a majority buy in on all things.

No one person leads the coalition, it's a collective group of people.

Anybody can get involved and shape it's future.

There really is no blue print for the journey we are on.

Other clubs supporters actually use previous Rovers supporter actions for their blueprints.

I think we've come a long way in a short space of time, but have a long way to go. Its going to have it's bumps on the way, as we are all human.

We are all just football supporters equal to the next and don't have all the answers.

I'm just a regular fan, born n bred into Blue and White halves, as you said no one person leads the coalition its a unified effort some of whom we may never hear from or see, but genuinely grateful for the efforts and the digging and processing information night after day after night. 

And when this is all over I reckon we hire every suite at Ewood and drink to the badge.

It'll happen I'm sure of it. 

May not be tomorrow but it won't be forever 

 

ARTE ET LABORE 

[A Northern Horde...]

53 minutes ago, lraC said:

Hopefully, to get his marching orders.

....And to be told the Club is being put up for sale.

PARTY TIME!

[Brfcrule1]

6 hours ago, glen9mullan said:

Just a recap

Two and a half months ago we had No Coalition. We had Jack a brfcs poster reaching out and hitting a brick wall to try and get something moving. His passion and drive was something I felt I could get involved with and many others felt the same and also joined to form a powerful voice.

Fast forward to present day.

Every supporter group bar one and we are trying to get this one is part of the Coalition.

Our first action was applying pressure on Suhail, Waggott and Gestede with the total vote of no confidence. 

This lead to the three coming out into the open and one has now gone.

The pressure on the other two will remain.

The global press our now covering our story and desire for the removal of the Raos and their band of merry men.

Our story is going back into parliament and we've now got the MPs backing the Coalition.

We've so much going on across a near 30 person panel it's quite extraordinary in such a short space of time.

Things evolve by the minute and it's hard graft,  extremely hard graft as our family time and in some cases taking days of work is being totally used up to force a better future.

We are still in our infancy and many things need to be agreed, formulated and developed. 

We have no funds , just hard grafting people trying to make a positive difference for something we commonly share, our club.

Given the democratic make up (we don't need politics) we have to balance everything and get a majority buy in on all things.

No one person leads the coalition, it's a collective group of people.

Anybody can get involved and shape it's future.

There really is no blue print for the journey we are on.

Other clubs supporters actually use previous Rovers supporter actions for their blueprints.

I think we've come a long way in a short space of time, but have a long way to go. Its going to have it's bumps on the way, as we are all human.

We are all just football supporters equal to the next and don't have all the answers.

Glen while I appreciate all you're doing but I feel it's something that needs to be addressed having read the first statement from the coalition it was gramatically poor the points made were very good however in some places it didn't make sense I know how it is for some people myself included it's very difficult & so I understand how difficult it can be I do think before putting out large statements someone should proof read it before it goes out however I completely agreed with all the points made 

[wilsdenrover]

I’d choose Glen’s et al drive and determination to improve our club over them being able to produce a literary masterpiece.

 

[Brfcrule1]

I agree Glen does some sterling work to affect change it's just the statement from the coalition a group of people trying their best was poor gramatically 

[SuperBrfc]

4 hours ago, arbitro said:

I have been told that Suhail is back in India but I don't know why.

It is Eid on Saturday in India, for the Muslim population living there. It's likely he has gone to spend time with family there over Eid.

Alternatively, it may be that Glen's regular updates to Pune have prompted them to call him in for talks.

If it is the latter, there are only one of two things he could say to them that would be acceptable, in my view:

1) Either, he tells them "I'm out", as the pressure is getting too much for him. This would leave them in limbo, "confused", and push them closer towards the exit door, IMO.

2) Or, he advises them to call it a day and sell up.

Nothing else is good enough.

All this talk about developing Academy players, giving them 3,000 minutes and selling them on is for the fairies.

Big Sam even said as much to Rudy's face, when he told him the Academy shouldn't be the main focus. JDT wanted experience for a reason. As did Eustace and as will Ismael. You win eff all with kids, quite simply.

If they want to play the numbers game, fine. Here's one for them.

It has been 4,770 days since we were last in the Premier League. 4,770.

Why don't they find some shame regarding that stat? Do something about it or piss off...is my message for those in Pune and for Pasha. They aren't arsed about that and many other football matters...so the message is clear. Piss off. Regardless.

[glen9mullan]

39 minutes ago, Brfcrule1 said:

Glen while I appreciate all you're doing but I feel it's something that needs to be addressed having read the first statement from the coalition it was gramatically poor the points made were very good however in some places it didn't make sense I know how it is for some people myself included it's very difficult & so I understand how difficult it can be I do think before putting out large statements someone should proof read it before it goes out however I completely agreed with all the points made 

The statements went across 27 different sets of eyes, and were reviewed by each of them too.

They were then reviewed by two journalist before finally being released.

The media has ran with every statement issued word for word.

 

 

[wilsdenrover]

15 minutes ago, Brfcrule1 said:

I agree Glen does some sterling work to affect change it's just the statement from the coalition a group of people trying their best was poor gramatically 

(So long as the statements are coherent) I just don’t see that as an issue myself.

The club are blanking the coalition because they’re running scared, not because (for example) their syntax might not be perfect. 

 

Edited Wednesday at 20:10 by wilsdenrover

[...]

Do you mean because the first statement was raw? That was exactly what was needed. A raw, dogged, straight to the point statement, no bells or whistles.

Said everything that was needed to be said. It was the first one. Since then they have developed and included more insight and information to

Le Grande Venky Cirque

[toogs]

2 hours ago, Brfcrule1 said:

Glen while I appreciate all you're doing but I feel it's something that needs to be addressed having read the first statement from the coalition it was gramatically poor the points made were very good however in some places it didn't make sense I know how it is for some people myself included it's very difficult & so I understand how difficult it can be I do think before putting out large statements someone should proof read it before it goes out however I completely agreed with all the points made 

That’s got to be the most ironic post I’ve ever read. 😊

.!

[RoverDom]

3 hours ago, Brfcrule1 said:

Glen while I appreciate all you're doing but I feel it's something that needs to be addressed having read the first statement from the coalition it was gramatically poor the points made were very good however in some places it didn't make sense I know how it is for some people myself included it's very difficult & so I understand how difficult it can be I do think before putting out large statements someone should proof read it before it goes out however I completely agreed with all the points made 

Would you like me to lend you some commas and full stops?

[47er]

10 hours ago, Exiled_Rover said:

What's the starting point for 'credible offers' though?

If the Venkys want their £200m back (I remain unconvinced it's all their money, but I digress) I can't see any of us having such contacts - nor is the club worth anything like that. 

It's an easy bar for the (now two) stooges to set though, knowing nobody is going to clear it. 

Venkys will never get their alleged £20M a year back. That's money thrown away by incompetence and no new owner will pay that to take over a basket case of a club.

The incentive for Venkys is they will get something back,( its a decent stadium after all, with an excellent training ground) and not have to spend any more time or money on a failed project.

[Upside Down]

It would be good to get potential buyers to go very public with their interest. Would push venkys into a corner and get the spotlight on them. 

You don't want to sell, why?

For a journalist that's looking for a great story about how a foundational club has been driven into the ground by foreign billionaires there's a literal gold mine here just waiting for them.

[lraC]

5 hours ago, glen9mullan said:

The statements went across 27 different sets of eyes, and were reviewed by each of them too.

They were then reviewed by two journalist before finally being released.

The media has ran with every statement issued word for word.

 

 

Nothing wrong with those statements and as someone has said, the post having a dig, was ironic.

To put it in perspective, the club release two lines, when announcing the departure of the CEO who served for 8 years. Much as I disliked him, that was a big departure and should have been given more prominence, but thats the nature of the beast.

If a couple of capital letters or a missing comma, here and there are made by the coalition, I don’t care a jot, as I’m loving the fight they are fighting. 

[Forever Blue]

19 hours ago, glen9mullan said:

We fully understand the legislation, have members who have been part of building the structure for the said legislation. 

Everything we do, we review the legal side and are extremely thorough and strategic to mitigate against the balls falling on the wrong side of the net.

The Coalition is made up of a lot of people, differing opinions/skill sets and does not stifle or prevent the group's involved carrying out their own objectives or remits. Individual group activities have not ceased or paused by being part of a collective panel.

Respecting each groups objectives and opinions has been paramount and remains top of the agenda in terms of how the Coalition operates.

Selling the club would be one outcome many desire.

However from a personal point of view stability, strong competent leadership at Board Level and the removal of those whose do the club harm is at the forefront of my mind.

We may get new owners and a continued circus entrusted with running the club.

We need to shut the circus down, and seek a hierarchy that functions with integrity , whilst are accountable for their actions.

If our current owners cannot implement the positive changes required for the club to rebuild then ultimately they need to go.

I'm a firm believer that we should never shut a door completely, but by the same sentiment, never be afraid to open a new one.

We need to eat the elephant piece by piece.

In terms of new owners one objective of the Coalition (baring in mind resource levels), is to make Rovers a credible purchase, developing what can be achieved,  how and utilising data and market research to increase the attractiveness to potential buyers/investors.

As I've tried to maintain throughout in my posts,  I'm trying to be as transparent as I can without literally handing on a plate to the club what our current activities are.

The club continues to ignore individual supporter group/ supporter emails, with them going unanswered regarding SLT engagement.

Whilst their generic response to the Coalition, was they'll speak to the Fans Forum in July.

The Coalition website is due to go live which has been worked on by a working group within the team and hopefully it can be another vehicle to communicate what's being done by all the volunteers involved.

 

I note your points about the supporter engagement with the club,  it's 100% been getting discussed weekly by the panel, at the moment the club has put a brick wall up.

 

 

Strange you’re focussed on the symptoms not the disease. The reason the circus exists is because of the owners. Venkys aren’t some benevolent invested owners being held back by shitty operators at Ewood. Venkys are the reason why we have shitty operators at Ewood. 
 

The owners need to go now. That should be the only focus.