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The sales of Jones, Kalinic and Samba brought in enough to cover V;s purchase price plus the inherited overdraft.

I'd love to know where all that money went seeing as we still had Prem income then to run the club and previous losses were i think sub 10 million.

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30 minutes ago, Tomphil2 said:

The sales of Jones, Kalinic and Samba brought in enough to cover V;s purchase price plus the inherited overdraft.

I'd love to know where all that money went seeing as we still had Prem income then to run the club and previous losses were i think sub 10 million.

Total loss pre player trading for 5 years prior to Venkys = £9 million

Post player trading = £5.6 million 

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Also something which may or may not be of interest it seems Barry and Bro set up a company in Switzerland in 2024- Venkys Europe AG - that appears to be listed as an investment company.

The 1 other name with them on that is someone called Daniel Steuble which also seems to match the name of an ex player and now finance director of a club named FC Uzwil......

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3 minutes ago, Frederick said:

It’s comical how they own a billion pound company 

The much trumped up Swiss Vaccine plant which also happened to be set up around the time they pitched up at Rovers went into liquidation in 2023.

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I don’t like the use of AI (in general not just here) but I really hope the video gets some traction.

I hope that we can remain reasonable with each other, I’m neither an official boycotter or attendee vs Watford, I’m in the majority perhaps, the natural boycotter after years of neglect.

Seeing sniping on twitter and it’s just what the powers that be would want 

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23 minutes ago, Tomphil2 said:

Also something which may or may not be of interest it seems Barry and Bro set up a company in Switzerland in 2024- Venkys Europe AG - that appears to be listed as an investment company.

The 1 other name with them on that is someone called Daniel Steuble which also seems to match the name of an ex player and now finance director of a club named FC Uzwil......

They certainly did FCuz....

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24 minutes ago, Tom said:

I don’t like the use of AI (in general not just here) but I really hope the video gets some traction.

I hope that we can remain reasonable with each other, I’m neither an official boycotter or attendee vs Watford, I’m in the majority perhaps, the natural boycotter after years of neglect.

Seeing sniping on twitter and it’s just what the powers that be would want 

I'll also overlook my dislike for ai in this instance, as it's a campaign against the ownership which I despise and I presume cost was the overriding factor here.

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59 minutes ago, Tomphil2 said:

Also something which may or may not be of interest it seems Barry and Bro set up a company in Switzerland in 2024- Venkys Europe AG - that appears to be listed as an investment company.

The 1 other name with them on that is someone called Daniel Steuble which also seems to match the name of an ex player and now finance director of a club named FC Uzwil......

I think I’ve found his direct dial (and email) if anyone fancies questioning him…

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He seems to have links to a few different firms in Switzerland / Zurich area involved in finance circles. Photo on those websites matches from his playing days. 

Always interesting and thought provoking when snippets of information emerge about their activities.

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I asked my dad at weekend if he was joining the boycott and he just looked at me weird and asked what I was on about. Granted he's in his 70's now but still pretty active on socials, still oblivious. 

You'd think in theory it would be easier to sort for us given the small fan base than for example Sheff Weds who had great success with it despite a much bigger fan base. Did they do anything differently?

Not a criticism in any way of those trying, I salute the efforts. Just feels like it's so hard work to get anything like this off the ground at Ewood. 

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3 hours ago, Ossydave said:

I asked my dad at weekend if he was joining the boycott and he just looked at me weird and asked what I was on about. Granted he's in his 70's now but still pretty active on socials, still oblivious. 

You'd think in theory it would be easier to sort for us given the small fan base than for example Sheff Weds who had great success with it despite a much bigger fan base. Did they do anything differently?

Not a criticism in any way of those trying, I salute the efforts. Just feels like it's so hard work to get anything like this off the ground at Ewood. 

Perhaps this forum needs promoting more it's a great source of info for all the goings on 

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3 hours ago, Ossydave said:

I asked my dad at weekend if he was joining the boycott and he just looked at me weird and asked what I was on about. Granted he's in his 70's now but still pretty active on socials, still oblivious. 

You'd think in theory it would be easier to sort for us given the small fan base than for example Sheff Weds who had great success with it despite a much bigger fan base. Did they do anything differently?

Not a criticism in any way of those trying, I salute the efforts. Just feels like it's so hard work to get anything like this off the ground at Ewood. 

I posted about comparisons with Sheff Wed back in December, when the boycott was first announced, and in my opinion it's really difficult to compare the two. 

Below is a section of the timeline I posted originally (which was way longer and included far more misdemeanours going back years), honing in on the immediate run-up to TWO protests, one vs Coventry (on-pitch protest) and the one vs Boro (boycott).  Before either of those happened, the club was under an embargo and players/staff had been told that wouldn't be paid on time for the 5th time in 2025 alone!  Immediately before the Boro Boycott the club was facing a winding up petition. 
 

On 26 September, the club were placed under a further two embargoes, so five in total, this time for football creditors and amounts due to another club.

On 29 September, senior players and staff were told not to expect wages on payday, the fifth time that calendar year.

On 4 October, the match against Coventry City was delayed due to a fan protest on the pitch against the owner.

On 6 October, the club were hit with their sixth embargo after failure to pay players on time.

On 9 October, new chair of the Independent Football Regulator, David Kogan said Sheffield Wednesday's struggles are a "significant problem" and the new football regulator is seeking powers to investigate clubs in such situations.

On 9 October, Unite the Union issued a statement against owner Dejphon Chansiri, for his continuous failure to pay non-football staff.

On 16 October, it was reported that HMRC are close to issuing a winding-up order due to an unpaid tax bill of around £1m.

On 22 October, the fans boycotted the fixture against Middlesbrough.


Whilst a lot of Rovers fans (Myself included) are extremely angry about the last 15 years, and extremely worried about the short, medium and long term future of the club under the Rao's, our current situation is (on the surface) not really comparable with that of Sheff Wed.  Very little of the above has happened at Rovers, save for a transfer embargo in.... 2015? 

What I'm saying is, whilst wages are paid, whilst there's 11 players in blue and white on the swamp, whilst we maintain Championship status and whilst there is no imminent (or at least publicised) threat to the club, many fans (and importantly the media and powers that be ((FA, EFL)) will turn a blind eye, and as we have witnessed, become quite angry at the prospect of protests, boycotts or otherwise, citing, "where would we be without them". 

In my opinion, protests won't gather a huge amount of traction until there's a tanginble threat to the future of the club. At the moment, the Rao's, and the board are managing to keep the good ship Rovers out of totally treacherous seas.  

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Staff and players not being paid at Wednesday meant more anger and probably no opposition from inside the club to protests etc.

Plus their owner had a presence at the ground sometimes.

Unlike here, invisible owners, people inside the club protecting their own gravy train and don't care about protests because of the thousands of miles buffer zone between here and India.

Staff and players always get paid as do the bills so no support comes from them.

It's a completely different dynamic here due to 15 years apathy rather than a few years anger as we had over a decade ago.

We more resemble Reading or what Charlton were in their slow demise quietly slipping away aside from the odd publicised kick off. When Bolton were slipping away they to had the odd spat but mainly like here loads just stayed away quietly.

 

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