Contracts

[Mattyblue]

Two of your key players with a year left and they haven’t even been offered anything.

This club doesn’t now even pretend to be a professional one.

[JHRover]

We'll just be getting some arse covering from the club being fed to Nixon and the Venkygraph over the next few weeks. The club, or the stooges running it, will want to get the last word out. They won't be happy at all that the trio of Tronstad, Travis and Brittain have publicly confirmed the truth - that the club hasn't even made the effort to speak to them about new deals - this disrupts the club's spin that they are hard at work and trying to sort it out but the greedy players are holding out for something better.

They succeeded on that con job with Lenihan, Nyambe, even Dolan. It isn't working on the others. 

So we will get bits in the press about this with the club trying to convince supporters they are trying, when most of us know they aren't. 

Edited June 13 by JHRover

[RevidgeBlue]

On 12/06/2025 at 13:03, Mattyblue said:

No issue (briefly) in signing players up when Gregg the Egg was here. 

Well, if they needed signing up because we wanted to sell them on for a profit maybe.

How many senior players still here did he sign up for an extension? (Genuine question because I don't know)

Buckley and Scott Wharton maybe?

[MarkBRFC]

20 minutes ago, RevidgeBlue said:

Well, if they needed signing up because we wanted to sell them on for a profit maybe.

How many senior players still here did he sign up for an extension? (Genuine question because I don't know)

Buckley and Scott Wharton maybe?

Pears, Carter, Wharton, Pickering, Buckley & JRC.

Also Garrett and Leonard if you want to count them as they would both need a squad place allocating this coming season.

Travis signed his extension a few months before he joined.

Edited Saturday at 06:07 by MarkBRFC

[RevidgeBlue]

19 minutes ago, MarkBRFC said:

Pears, Carter, Wharton, Pickering, Buckley & JRC.

Also Garrett and Leonard if you want to count them as they would both need a squad place allocating this coming season.

Travis signed his extension a few months before he joined.

Thanks.

The only one of those I'd say was a real coup would be Carter's as he looked at the time as though he'd be the next one to leave for big money.

His form and fitness have declined somewhat since then though which couldn't have been predicted at the time.

[MarkBRFC]

4 minutes ago, RevidgeBlue said:

Thanks.

The only one of those I'd say was a real coup would be Carter's as he looked at the time as though he'd be the next one to leave for big money.

His form and fitness have declined somewhat since then though which couldn't have been predicted at the time.

JRC was at the time too as he was playing superbly.

Easy to look back now and say who was a coup and who wasn't.

They all needed renewing at the times they were renewed.

Some have worked out, some haven't.

 

[Upside Down]

8 minutes ago, MarkBRFC said:

JRC was at the time too as he was playing superbly.

Easy to look back now and say who was a coup and who wasn't.

They all needed renewing at the times they were renewed.

Some have worked out, some haven't.

 

He was absolutely class under JDT.

It's quite amazing how players can flourish under one manager and offer nothing under another.

[RevidgeBlue]

2 minutes ago, MarkBRFC said:

JRC was at the time too as he was playing superbly.

Easy to look back now and say who was a coup and who wasn't.

They all needed renewing at the times they were renewed.

Some have worked out, some haven't.

 

I think it's a bit subjective. I've never rated JRC personally. Conversely I wouldn't criticise anyone for giving Buckley a 5 year deal at the time as again he looked like he was going to be the next big thing.  I rate Scott Wharton and again wouldn't quibble about him having been given a long term deal at the time.

On the other hand at no point would I have been rushing to offer Pears or Pickering new deals, I don't think you can just hand contracts out to everyone carte blanche, you have to assess who's performing best for you and who has the most potential resale value and prioritise accordingly.

Mowbray was particularly guilty of handing out contract extensions to those who didn't warrant them.

[Tomphil2]

Ironically the one given 5 years to secure the asset was the one who almost instantly fell away the most and i personally think there is a connection.

It did come under the Mowbray and Venus regime though so not that surprising.

[chaddyrovers]

 

 

 

[roversfan99]

We still havent offered him a contract? Wow.

[dingles staying down 4ever]

On 14/06/2025 at 07:40, RevidgeBlue said:

I think it's a bit subjective. I've never rated JRC personally. Conversely I wouldn't criticise anyone for giving Buckley a 5 year deal at the time as again he looked like he was going to be the next big thing.  I rate Scott Wharton and again wouldn't quibble about him having been given a long term deal at the time.

On the other hand at no point would I have been rushing to offer Pears or Pickering new deals, I don't think you can just hand contracts out to everyone carte blanche, you have to assess who's performing best for you and who has the most potential resale value and prioritise accordingly.

Mowbray was particularly guilty of handing out contract extensions to those who didn't warrant them.

Like Rashford at Utd sometimes players are on easy street when they sign long term contracts. They know they can be injured or drift out of form so they dont have to play. Then out of nowhere come the last year of their contract they rediscover their form and fitness to earn their mega buck new deal or move....any thoughts about Dolan playing well at the end of last year purely coincidental.

The only players who differ are those who have already got their new deals sorted such as Brereton or Rothwell as they dont need to.

Mowbray just kept his favourites sweet

[K-Hod]

1 hour ago, chaddyrovers said:

 

 

 

When Rovers might get some clarity?

See the blame the players narrative is well underway.

[Cherry Blue]

There is no latest on Dolan as his contract isn't up until 30-06-2025. Just Jackson selling another story.

[davulsukur]

2 hours ago, roversfan99 said:

We still havent offered him a contract? Wow.

I thought he'd had a contract offer on the table for months? 

Mental

[JHRover]

The claim that Dolan was offered a new deal months ago simply doesn't tally with everything else that we've seen occur, and with what other senior players have publicly admitted.

So unless they've made an exception for Dolan I know my money is on him getting the same treatment as everyone else - no offer worthy of consideration.

[MarkBRFC]

Something doesn't add up there.

They will have to have made Dolan a contract offer on at least the same terms as he's on now by a deadline, think it's the same deadline as when they have to tell the players there decision if they are to be retained or not.

Or we don't get compo if he moves to somewhere in this country.

So I imagine we have offered him a token contract, and then maybe we'll throw something in as a last ditch attempt when he signs for someone else do they can turn around and say "we tried!".

[KentExile]

3 minutes ago, MarkBRFC said:

Something doesn't add up there..  They will have to have made Dolan a contract offer on at least the same terms as he's on now by a deadline, think it's the same deadline as when they have to tell the players there decision if they are to be retained or not.  Or we don't get compo if he moves to somewhere in this country.

So I imagine we have offered him a token contract, and then maybe we'll throw something in as a last ditch attempt when he signs for someone else do they can turn around and say "we tried!".

exactly the bold part

Edited 12 hours ago by KentExile

[roversfan99]

One line that people might say is that Dolan was offered a deal was it 18 months-2 years ago.

Yes, he may have been. But not a serious one that he has accepted and hes had 2 more seasons since so his justified demands can go up so why havent we bothered to offer him anything since.

[chaddyrovers]

Its was only a few months ago that people wouldn't bothered about Dolan leaving. 

Rovers should be offering him the bets terms we can, interesting that he hasn't had any formal contracts bid yet, interesting. Hopefully we can get him to sign here

[London blue]

1 minute ago, chaddyrovers said:

Its was only a few months ago that people wouldn't bothered about Dolan leaving. 

Rovers should be offering him the bets terms we can, interesting that he hasn't had any formal contracts bid yet, interesting. Hopefully we can get him to sign here

People are entitled to change their minds based on changing circumstances. You would do well to remember that.

He won't be signing for Rovers.

[roversfan99]

It isnt interesting that he hasnt been offered a contract here. Like with numerous other players here, its infuriating.

Hes not staying.

[MarkBRFC]

4 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

Its was only a few months ago that people wouldn't bothered about Dolan leaving. 

Only a few months ago you wanted Ismael removing from his position immediately, now you're in his biggest fan.

Folk can change there minds as they want, as you have done in the past. 

Edited 12 hours ago by MarkBRFC

[Mattyblue]

Some people, plenty of others have thought for a long time that he’s a handy (and now fairly experienced) Championship player… but of course such a player would quite rightly expect the going rate.

[chaddyrovers]

1 hour ago, roversfan99 said:

It isnt interesting that he hasnt been offered a contract here. Like with numerous other players here, its infuriating.

My point was about formal contract offers from other clubs NOT Rovers.