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[Mattyblue]

End of the day that will be the reaction of most of the remaining rump of crowd. 

You’ll be very disappointed if you expect anything else. Like it’s been said many times, 10,000 have walked away, that’s your protest right there. The majority who are left just want to watch a game of football with some lads in a blue and white shirt.
 

[RevidgeBlue]

5 minutes ago, Mattyblue said:

End of the day that will be the reaction of most of the remaining rump of crowd. 

You’ll be very disappointed if you expect anything else. Like it’s been said many times, 10,000 have walked away, that’s your protest right there. The majority who are left just want to watch a game of football with some lads in a blue and white shirt.
 

There might be a few plastic snakes in attendance though.

[RevidgeBlue]

34 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

Why protest in our 150th anniversary game against Derby?.

You know the answer already but the advantage of a protest for this game would be that there will somewhat more attention on this fixture than usual due to the occasion. Add into that it's on Sky, the Eustace factor, and the fact it already seems to be a relegation six pointer.

Just so we know where we stand, are you opposed in principle to protests before, during or after any game or just this specific one?

[DE.]

After the reported falsification of the previous official minutes, and the club's seeming refusal to engage with anything other than positive feedback (or trivial issues), any meeting seems utterly pointless. Meeting with these people only legitimises their presence and authority. If their actions were as detailed previously, then Glen and the Action Group's stance is absolutely the correct one. Attending would be a waste of everyone's time. 

[wilsdenrover]

6 hours ago, chaddyrovers said:

Why protest in our 150th anniversary game against Derby?.

Because we don’t want this to be the last landmark anniversary the club reaches.

[MarkBRFC]

Is it true Gestede and Owen said at the FF on Monday that they aren't worried about a relegation battle because the "data" suggests otherwise?

[Tomphil2]

Any respectable set of data would predict losing thousands of mins Championship experience and replacing with non would lead to serious issues as the season unfolds.

Any respectable set of data would predict a Head Coach like Ismael would begin to struggle with the squad he's been given.

Any respectable set of data would predict an already fed up diminished fanbase would diminish even further given price hikes and all the above evidence.

The amazing thing about data is a human can select the bits he wants to fit his narrative and pretend the rest doesn't exist.

[AndyB]

2 hours ago, MarkBRFC said:

Is it true Gestede and Owen said at the FF on Monday that they aren't worried about a relegation battle because the "data" suggests otherwise?

Apparently they did

 

https://nitter.poast.org/PropaNortherner/status/1980750178803237161#m

[Roverthechimp]

14 minutes ago, AndyB said:

Apparently they did

 

https://nitter.poast.org/PropaNortherner/status/1980750178803237161#m

According to the stats onscreen after the match yesterday we were better in all aspects except actual goals.

As it this is obviously an outlier then it can be safely excluded from the dataset.

Wonder if there is an appeals process as an outlier in the data should not be able to affect the result to this extent…

🤡

[RevidgeBlue]

4 hours ago, MarkBRFC said:

Is it true Gestede and Owen said at the FF on Monday that they aren't worried about a relegation battle because the "data" suggests otherwise?

Unbelievable if true.

The "data" shows we have lost seven games out of ten, have scored only eight goals in those ten games and are headed for a record low number of around 31 -33 points for the season.

End of.

[StHelensRover]

Unfortunately for them, football is played on grass with real people and not inside spreadsheets and databases. Do they not realise the average fan doesn't give a flying F about expected goals and all the other obscure metrics that seem to be rife in the game these days?  Throw it out with other stupid new terminology I'm forever hearing now like "low block, mid-block" - just nonsense new terms for tactics which have been around for a century or more.

Edited 6 hours ago by StHelensRover

[RevidgeBlue]

9 minutes ago, StHelensRover said:

Unfortunately for them, football is played on grass with real people and not inside spreadsheets and databases. Do they not realise the average fan doesn't give a flying F about expected goals and all the other obscure metrics that seem to be rife in the game these days?  Throw it out with other stupid new terminology I'm forever hearing now like "low block, mid-block" - just nonsense new terms for tactics which have been around for a century or more.

"Turnover" for winning the ball or giving it away does my head in.

Like it's some mystical art form.

Edited 6 hours ago by RevidgeBlue

[JHRover]

People rinsing a ton of money out of football both in the media and behind the scenes at clubs need to come up with such 'modern' terms to justify their employment. 

BBC are the latest - articles riddled with factual mistakes - example being that Dyche led Burnley to qualify for Europe for the first time since the 60s - but loads of pointless stats about Xg and other drivel about his 'style'. 

Edited 6 hours ago by JHRover

[Tomphil2]

AI driven stuff has dreadful inaccuracies in it in everyday stuff across the media yet this generation is pinning all its hopes on it across the board.

Utterly ridiculous but no surprise this club is going all in on it if it thinks it can save a few pennies.

Whilst costing itself millions in the long run.

Edited 3 hours ago by Tomphil2

[AvRover]

On 21/10/2025 at 10:54, Mattyblue said:

End of the day that will be the reaction of most of the remaining rump of crowd. 

You’ll be very disappointed if you expect anything else. Like it’s been said many times, 10,000 have walked away, that’s your protest right there. The majority who are left just want to watch a game of football with some lads in a blue and white shirt.
 

Yep, in the PL days we'd get 20k home fans vs United. Now it's more like 10k. That's 50% of the fanbase who've left. That's shocking tbqh. A lot of it is a quiet boycott, myself included.

Rovers fans need to get serious. It may be difficult to achieve but get home crowds really down closer to 5k. Stop buying merch and food like Wednesday are doing. 

The fanbase, I'm sorry to say, have been a soft touch and we need a serious plan to safeguard the future of our club.

Protests, boycotts, hit them in their pockets, media. A multi pronged move on the ownership.

[lraC]

4 minutes ago, AvRover said:

Yep, in the PL days we'd get 20k home fans vs United. Now it's more like 10k. That's 50% of the fanbase who've left. That's shocking tbqh. A lot of it is a quiet boycott, myself included.

Rovers fans need to get serious. It may be difficult to achieve but get home crowds really down closer to 5k. Stop buying merch and food like Wednesday are doing. 

The fanbase, I'm sorry to say, have been a soft touch and we need a serious plan to safeguard the future of our club.

Protests, boycotts, hit them in their pockets, media. A multi pronged move on the ownership.

I actually think there were about 5k on last night in the home sections.

[rigger]

11 minutes ago, lraC said:

I actually think there were about 5k on last night in the home sections.

Whilst there are 9000 season ticket holders, the club will always be able to claim at least 11,000 crowds, even if not all season ticket holders turn up.

[lraC]

10 hours ago, MarkBRFC said:

Is it true Gestede and Owen said at the FF on Monday that they aren't worried about a relegation battle because the "data" suggests otherwise?

This is exactly why I have said what I have about the fans forum meetings.

Can someone who was there confirm what the response was to that nugget?

I hope they were taken to task over it and that this was recorded in the minutes.

They are way out of their depth spouting this sort of stuff 

[DE.]

If you work in data you know it can be manipulated to suit whichever narrative is most favourable. It isn't even difficult if the dataset is big enough and has multiple vague, stupid metrics. 

Anyone with eyes and a functioning brain can see we're going down.

[London blue]

1 minute ago, DE. said:

If you work in data you know it can be manipulated to suit whichever narrative is most favourable. It isn't even difficult if the dataset is big enough and has multiple vague, stupid metrics. 

Anyone with eyes and a functioning brain can see we're going down.

This is the thing.

Trying to pretend we're not underperforming and that we're in a false position is taking us for fools.

Extrapolate this start across the season and we're in for a fucking pasting of a year.

Ismail isn't the main problem here but can very much get to fuck with comments like that. 

[Tomphil2]

2 hours ago, rigger said:

Whilst there are 9000 season ticket holders, the club will always be able to claim at least 11,000 crowds, even if not all season ticket holders turn up.

Allowing for ST holders whether they show or not it's obvious only about one thousand or so people are buying match tickets now.

That should be a monumental wake up call for them but they'll just ignore it and pray for more huge away followings.

Which by the way Sheff U's was surprising last night and will have left a lump in the throat of the bean counters who were expecting 3k at £30 a ticket.

The absolute mugs.