Valérien Ismaël: Blackburn Rovers Head Coach

[RevidgeBlue]

2 minutes ago, arbitro said:

 

If you think it's a deflection tactic that is your prerogative but many think he is justified in doing so.

Whether or not he is 'piss poor' is irrelevant to this point.

 

That's some u turn from you arbitro!

What happened to "Mr Aloof" and Mr. "Arrogant"?

The fact Vince Viley is such a poor manager is absolutely the point. That's why we're not winning any (or at least many) football matches. We can't defend properly, we don't create anywhere near enough chances and his substitutions frequently cost us the game.

It's nothing whatsoever to do with poor officiating. Decisions go for and against you all the time. It may be we're temporarily not getting the rub of the green but that's irrelevant -you have to get on with it and do your job properly.

Complete excuse culture down there. Strip the squad to the bone then complain about injuries. Find yourselves unable to win a home game or hold onto a lead, turn the blame onto the officials.

It's absolutely nauseating.

Wonder what the excuses for Saturday will be? Vince must be hard at work already adding them to his "list".

[arbitro]

2 minutes ago, RevidgeBlue said:

That's some u turn from you arbitro!

What happened to "Mr Aloof" and Mr. "Arrogant"?

The fact Vince Viley is such a poor manager is absolutely the point. That's why we're not winning any (or at least many) football matches. We can't defend properly, we don't create anywhere near enough chances and his substitutions frequently cost us the game.

It's nothing whatsoever to do with poor officiating. Decisions go for and against you all the time. It may be we're temporarily not getting the rub of the green but that's irrelevant -you have to get on with it and do your job properly.

Complete excuse culture down there. Strip the squad to the bone then complain about injuries. Find yourselves unable to win a home game or hold onto a lead, turn the blame onto the officials.

It's absolutely nauseating.

Wonder what the excuses for Saturday will be? Vince must be hard at work already adding them to his "list".

You are making assumptions again.

No U turn here, I still think he is aloof and arrogant but on this occasion I believe he is right.

Sometime being objective is the best course of action - you should try it.

[Herbie6590]

Always nice to get an endorsement…

[roversfan99]

Its fine to have a whinge about the clear mistake surrounding the red card.

To come out with a pre prepared list of refereeing mistakes across the season in the immediate aftermath of the game, imply a lack of integrity and a bias for whatever reason to Ipswich, that is unnecessary.

[AllRoversGirl_]

You can bet VI will come up with an FA charge for the list

[Leonard Venkhater]

41 minutes ago, RevidgeBlue said:

That's some u turn from you arbitro!

What happened to "Mr Aloof" and Mr. "Arrogant"?

The fact Vince Viley is such a poor manager is absolutely the point. That's why we're not winning any (or at least many) football matches. We can't defend properly, we don't create anywhere near enough chances and his substitutions frequently cost us the game.

It's nothing whatsoever to do with poor officiating. Decisions go for and against you all the time. It may be we're temporarily not getting the rub of the green but that's irrelevant -you have to get on with it and do your job properly.

Complete excuse culture down there. Strip the squad to the bone then complain about injuries. Find yourselves unable to win a home game or hold onto a lead, turn the blame onto the officials.

It's absolutely nauseating.

Wonder what the excuses for Saturday will be? Vince must be hard at work already adding them to his "list".

I think it's called fairness. The ref was awful, whatever anyone thinks of Ismael...

 

[alex l]

6 hours ago, arbitro said:

Fair enough if he is but I read it as he would have kept him on.

Apologies for the lack of clarity, yes I meant bringing de neve on for hedges rather Ribero, I know hedges was injured. Another one to add to our casualty ward. 

[arbitro]

Just now, alex l said:

Apologies for the lack of clarity, yes I meant bringing de neve on for hedges rather Ribero, I know hedges was injured. Another one to add to our casualty ward. 

Thanks for clarifying - no need to apologise as I actually misinterpreted your words.

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49 minutes ago, Herbie6590 said:

Always nice to get an endorsement…

Hahahaaha bored Ian? 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

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[JamieUK]

4 hours ago, StHelensRover said:

Appointed at the beginning of March, we're now into December.

This guy has managed 14 competitive matches at Ewood Park.

We have won 3 of them. It's an aberration.

During that time he's nodded along without complaint while his bosses have gutted the team of any experience and replaced players as cheaply as possible. One or two of the replacements look like they will make the grade (Alebiosu and Gudjohnsen), they'll probably be sold on as soon as possible at a profit. The majority are horrific and shouldn't be playing at this level

Now people are loving this manager because he's waved a sheet of paper on TV and screeched about referees. 3 home wins in 9 months is all because of referees is it? I do and don't want him sacked, can't make my mind up. He's useless and taking us nowhere, but the clowns who appointed him would only appoint another mediocre yes-man.

Pretty sure it's 16 😕 

[RevidgeBlue]

2 hours ago, arbitro said:

You are making assumptions again.

No U turn here, I still think he is aloof and arrogant but on this occasion I believe he is right.

Sometime being objective is the best course of action - you should try it.

I am being objective, Im not looking at last night's incident through blue and white tinted glasses  as you appear to be.

As with the Chelsea v Arsenal decision you seem to hold a very strong opinion on both and think there's only one possible outcome. Id say both are extremely subjective decisions.

Anyhow we disagree on it so Ill leave it there. Like Penwortham put me on ignore if you dont like my posts.

 

[NeilInBristol]

2 hours ago, Herbie6590 said:

Always nice to get an endorsement…

This is wonderful 

[StHelensRover]

Edited 1 hour ago by StHelensRover

[aletheia]

This idea that reffing was better in the past is curious.

Pundits, managers, fans have always moaned about decisions. 

VAR was introduced because of all the technology available to fans in the ground and on TV. It was easy to instantly see if a mistake was made. So VAR is an attempt to protect refs from making mistakes we can all see. Of course, we all know that VAR may help in some instances but can make things even more difficult. Ever watched a replay loads of times (as experts do in TV studios) and still not sure? Someone has to make the call. It was the Thierry Henry handball that tipped us into VAR. Perhaps we should have VAR in our league 😉 Wouldn’t that be fun? Would we have got a pen last night? 

I get the laugh and joke refs of previous generations who had leeway and a ‘feel’ for the game. But they made crap decisions too and had favourites. Bryan Robson cleaning out opponents, injuring himself in the tackle only for the ref to waddle over and ask ‘Are you ok Bryan?’  We could go back to that, but I guarantee that there will still be an outcry up and down the land at ‘outrageous decisions’ given by refs.

I get the fact that reffing has become somewhat robotic or officious. But then, if refs started doing their own thing more, you can bet the ‘consistency’ word would crop up repeatedly.

Not suggesting all is hunky dory but after each initiative protests still occur.

Incidentally, just to make the blood boil, possibility of VAR for corners and yellow cards. Throw ins next? 😉

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/c62lgler7rlo

Maybe we should have a reffing thread. Could be lively.

[arbitro]

42 minutes ago, RevidgeBlue said:

I am being objective, Im not looking at last night's incident through blue and white tinted glasses  as you appear to be.

As with the Chelsea v Arsenal decision you seem to hold a very strong opinion on both and think there's only one possible outcome. Id say both are extremely subjective decisions.

Anyhow we disagree on it so Ill leave it there. Like Penwortham put me on ignore if you dont like my posts.

 

I give up, you being objective on a manager you have never liked and have been really critical of. Do me a favour.

I don't agree with the majority of your posts so I'll take your advice and put you on ignore.

[Wheelton Blue]

Are refs any worse these days than that George Courtney display at Selhurst Park?

I'm not so sure about that!

[Salgados Hair]

[RevidgeBlue]

4 minutes ago, Wheelton Blue said:

Are refs any worse these days than that George Courtney display at Selhurst Park?

I'm not so sure about that!

Or Gerald Ashby on behalf of Man Ure when he awarded a penalty and sent Berg off here.

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18 minutes ago, Salgados Hair said:

Touché for editing his finger lmao

[aletheia]

Ray Tinkler? Keith Burge?