2025 Summer Transfer Thread. 😂

[Forever Blue]

2 hours ago, Tomphil2 said:

You might well be right there and if Ismael could chose he'd probably want a bit more pace in that position but as it stands the squad without Batth would be significantly weaker.

I wouldn’t be surprised if there are plans to sell either Hyam or Carter. 

2 hours ago, Tomphil2 said:

[bluebruce]

4 hours ago, chaddyrovers said:

Did we not spend last summer on Gueye, Cantwell, Ohashi and Toth, or in January on Kargbo? 

And they've all been mixed bags. At fairly low expense.

[Tomphil2]

6 hours ago, bluebruce said:

And they've all been mixed bags. At fairly low expense.

At 20k per week Cantwell has been a luxury signing and a lot more is needed from him.

On a 2 year contract that sadly isn't low expense and i'd get rid immediately if it meant that money could go to keeping Dolan and Batth.

Edited 12 hours ago by Tomphil2

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@dallydally why the thumbs down? I've already got my season ticket so don't be a grumpy pants 🙃 

[Damien]

13 hours ago, chaddyrovers said:

I'm sorry I thought you have some inside info on what our budget was for the upcoming transfer window. 

It was roughly what we spend without Pasha saying it. Pasha's comments on the record and we will see in the accounts if his comments was right or not. 

It has been reported Wharton won't be ready for start of the pre season training and lets not forget it was serious injury and we shouldn't rush back. Batth hasn't sign yet. Another centre back signing is a must

Yes we need to bring 2 or 3 attacking players so lets who we bring in

very good deal. Big Brittain fan

Can’t fault Chaddy on any of his comments here. Spot on.

[Damien]

11 hours ago, Exiled_Rover said:

Well they haven't spent any money for nearly 2 years and literally drove off one of the best managers in the league because they refused to back him - so I'd suggest it's unlikely. 

This is true(ish) but until the close of the window, there has to be hope that will change. 
 

It is the hope which kills us.

[dallydally]

41 minutes ago, ... said:

@dallydally why the thumbs down? I've already got my season ticket so don't be a grumpy pants 🙃 

It's not me being grumpy. I simply don't understand why people keep parting with their hard earned cash to support the idiots who own the club. Vote with your wallets for goodness sake!!

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24 minutes ago, dallydally said:

It's not me being grumpy. I simply don't understand why people keep parting with their hard earned cash to support the idiots who own the club. Vote with your wallets for goodness sake!!

I'm not voting for anyone. I hate the venkys as much as anyone but I want to take my kids out on a Saturday because that's MY time. 

[alex l]

45 minutes ago, dallydally said:

It's not me being grumpy. I simply don't understand why people keep parting with their hard earned cash to support the idiots who own the club. Vote with your wallets for goodness sake!!

It's possible to support those in blue and white playing for your club without it being an endorsement of the owners, they're not mutually exclusive 

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54 minutes ago, alex l said:

It's possible to support those in blue and white playing for your club without it being an endorsement of the owners, they're not mutually exclusive 

This is it mate, personal opinion, I think people should still go on because it's the club we love not the owners. 

Doesn't matter if we have a bunch of nobody's playing on a Saturday they'll still get my support because of the Blue and White halves they are wearing. 

Everyone with a brain knows the regime is the worst tenure in our 150 years of history. 

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At the end of the day we won't have a club if no one goes. 

Scale it down to a non league club. It's the same principle with them as it is with us. 

If no one shows up to them they shut up shop. Clubs rely on fans to contribute. Yes you'll get heavy investment (and even significant investment 😉) from owners to keep the club running but ultimately if we don't go. It's over.

[chaddyrovers]

12 hours ago, Exiled_Rover said:

Wahlstedt covered the cost of Toth, Gallagher covered the cost of Gueye and Ohashi. 

So what, we spent £1.5m on Cantwell and Kargbo after bringing in over £30m? 

You say we didn't spend last summer and we did. We bought Gueye, Ohashi, Cantwell and Toth for cash. Is that wrong? I never mentioned which deals funded by what sale of players did I? 

9 hours ago, bluebruce said:

And they've all been mixed bags. At fairly low expense.

Some better than others. Ohashi probably best buy we done last summer for cash. 

1 hour ago, dallydally said:

It's not me being grumpy. I simply don't understand why people keep parting with their hard earned cash to support the idiots who own the club. Vote with your wallets for goodness sake!!

Like I said in the season ticket thread, its a personal choice and no-one should be judge for whatever decision they make. If you have problem with people buying the Season ticket and wanting to back the team then that's your problem and issue

[dallydally]

52 minutes ago, ... said:

At the end of the day we won't have a club if no one goes. 

Scale it down to a non league club. It's the same principle with them as it is with us. 

If no one shows up to them they shut up shop. Clubs rely on fans to contribute. Yes you'll get heavy investment (and even significant investment 😉) from owners to keep the club running but ultimately if we don't go. It's over.

If that's what it takes to get rid so be it. I intensely dislike not going but I will NOT support these charlatans any longer!

[Eddie]

28 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

You say we didn't spend last summer and we did. We bought Gueye, Ohashi, Cantwell and Toth for cash. Is that wrong? I never mentioned which deals funded by what sale of players did I? 

Some better than others. Ohashi probably best buy we done last summer for cash. 

Stop this.

Please.

You get some unnecessary flak on this messageboard, but defending the transfer spending is just idiotic. It undoes any valid points you might make on other topics as it makes you seem like a complete and utter stooge. 

We have spent a tiny fraction of transfer incomings on new signings. Well below what anyone would consider to be the normal fiscally responsible limit and well under what would be part of a normal club that was aiming for realistic sustainability. 

So, please, stop it. No one is denying that there were new signings, but they were signed using a small percentage of fees that were brought in.

We have consistently had an incredibly low net spend. Defending it is particularly stupid as we are missing a wonderful opportunity to invest in the playing squad without going over FFP limits. 

Just stop it. 

[lraC]

1 minute ago, Eddie said:

Stop this.

Please.

You get some unnecessary flak on this messageboard, but defending the transfer spending is just idiotic. It undoes any valid points you might make on other topics as it makes you seem like a complete and utter stooge. 

We have spent a tiny fraction of transfer incomings on new signings. Well below what anyone would consider to be the normal fiscally responsible limit and well under what would be part of a normal club that was aiming for realistic sustainability. 

So, please, stop it. No one is denying that there were new signings, but they were signed using a small percentage of fees that were brought in.

We have consistently had an incredibly low net spend. Defending it is particularly stupid as we are missing a wonderful opportunity to invest in the playing squad without going over FFP limits. 

Just stop it. 

The bigger picture here is we could so easily have been Sunderland. If you look at some of the signings Chaddy himself suggested, just 2 or 3 of those, would have given us a wonderful opportunity, so no real way of defending the actual signings.

[roversfan99]

14 hours ago, chaddyrovers said:

Childish pathetic response from yourself. Better than shit or used to be. 

We need 5 centre backs in the squad. 

Yes we need 2 or 3 signings in forward areas

Time for such questions is after the window not now. 

No the time to answer whether we have faith in the owners providing the required funding and the staff having the necessary competence is now. Its a prediction, its what we think will happen.

The time to answer whether we have had a good window is obviously after. I was asking whether you have faith in us bringing in everything that we need, both quality and quantity.

[roversfan99]

13 hours ago, JCRovers said:

This is Rovers' transfer history under Venky's tenure (from November 2010 to present):

Source: Transfermarkt

Winter transfer, season 2010/11:

Net expenditure: 4,8 million Euros (biggest signing: Formica)

Season 11/12 (relegated from PL):

Net income: 20 million Euros (biggest signing: Dann, biggest sales: Jones, Samba, Kalinic)

Season 12/13:

Net expenditure: 6 million Euros (biggest signing: Rhodes, biggest sale: Nzonzi)

Season 13/14:

Net income: 3 million Euros (biggest signing: Marshall, biggest sale: Olsson)

Season 14/15:

Net expenditure: 3 miilion Euros (biggest signing: Duffy)

Season 15/16: 

Net income: 25 million Euros (biggest sales: Rhodes, Gestede, Cairney)

Season 16/17 (relegated from Championship):

Net income: 13 million Euros (biggest sales: Hanley, Duffy, Marshall)

Season 17/18 (promoted from League One):

Net expenditure: 1 million Euro (biggest signing: Dack)

Season 18/19:

Net expenditure: 10 million Euros (biggest signings: Brereton Diaz, Armstrong)

Season 19/20:

Net expenditure: 3 million Euros (biggest signing: Gallagher, biggest sale: Raya)

Season 20/21:

Net expenditure: 1,8 million Euros (biggest signings: Pickering, Kaminski)

Season 21/22:

Net income: 16 million Euros (biggest sale: Armstrong)

Season 22/23:

Net expenditure: 4,8 million Euros (biggest signings: Szmodics, Hyam, Brittain)

Season 23/24:

Net income: 25 million Euros (biggest signing: Wahlstedt, biggest sale: Wharton)

Season 24/25:

Net income: 8,6 million Euros (biggest signing: Gueye, biggest sale: Szmodics)

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Total net income from 2010-2025: 76,2 million Euros

Club made a loss on the following players: Gallagher, Rothwell, Brereton Diaz, Formica, Dann, King, Best

Club made a 'considerable' profit on the following players: Szmodics, Wharton, Armstrong, Jones, Samba, Nzonzi, Gestede, Cairney, Hanley, Duffy, Raya

Note that the club has struck gold on a couple of occasions with academy products / youth intake in Wharton, Raya, Jones and Hanley. Players that cost next to nothing to bring in / develop yet generated relatively large fees. So you barely got a handful of players who the club has made a profit on by acting in the market over the course of 14,5 years. 

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Board has been on record this year saying that player sales won't affect the summer's transfer budget so I wouldn't trust us to spend anything unless it involves players going the other way. 

 

Brilliant post.

@RevidgeBlue youve always been keen to defend their owners for "willingly" putting in money, pinning blame onto various individuals instead.

This is a full and consistent pattern throughout their tenure, of which those (Waggott, Broughton, Mowbray etc) have only played a temporary part. Surely this changes your interpretation somewhat? Its a big difference having to cover the bills and willingly investing for the betterment of the club.

[chaddyrovers]

10 minutes ago, Eddie said:

Stop this.

Please.

You get some unnecessary flak on this messageboard, but defending the transfer spending is just idiotic. It undoes any valid points you might make on other topics as it makes you seem like a complete and utter stooge. 

We have spent a tiny fraction of transfer incomings on new signings. Well below what anyone would consider to be the normal fiscally responsible limit and well under what would be part of a normal club that was aiming for realistic sustainability. 

So, please, stop it. No one is denying that there were new signings, but they were signed using a small percentage of fees that were brought in.

We have consistently had an incredibly low net spend. Defending it is particularly stupid as we are missing a wonderful opportunity to invest in the playing squad without going over FFP limits. 

Just stop it. 

Firstly, I'm not defending it but provide the facts that we did spend some money. 

Secondly, I would have like us to more money in both window. I have said this clearly in both window. I wanted Thomas-Asante in January. Thought he would fit our squad and I would target him again this summer if I was in charge. I wanted De Lange last summer and he was be good keeper for us but Rovers wouldn't pay the extra cash of 200/300k for him. 

Thirdly, I agree we are missing an opportunity to reinvest more money then we did last summer. Last summer, it was reported Eustace wanted to sign Jay Stansfield permanently and spend all the Szmodics money on him. I wanted him 2 years ago cos I thought he would be good signing. Last summer, spending that amount of money would have been a sign of intent and big push for a playoff place. 

 

[lraC]

13 hours ago, JCRovers said:

This is Rovers' transfer history under Venky's tenure (from November 2010 to present):

Source: Transfermarkt

Winter transfer, season 2010/11:

Net expenditure: 4,8 million Euros (biggest signing: Formica)

Season 11/12 (relegated from PL):

Net income: 20 million Euros (biggest signing: Dann, biggest sales: Jones, Samba, Kalinic)

Season 12/13:

Net expenditure: 6 million Euros (biggest signing: Rhodes, biggest sale: Nzonzi)

Season 13/14:

Net income: 3 million Euros (biggest signing: Marshall, biggest sale: Olsson)

Season 14/15:

Net expenditure: 3 miilion Euros (biggest signing: Duffy)

Season 15/16: 

Net income: 25 million Euros (biggest sales: Rhodes, Gestede, Cairney)

Season 16/17 (relegated from Championship):

Net income: 13 million Euros (biggest sales: Hanley, Duffy, Marshall)

Season 17/18 (promoted from League One):

Net expenditure: 1 million Euro (biggest signing: Dack)

Season 18/19:

Net expenditure: 10 million Euros (biggest signings: Brereton Diaz, Armstrong)

Season 19/20:

Net expenditure: 3 million Euros (biggest signing: Gallagher, biggest sale: Raya)

Season 20/21:

Net expenditure: 1,8 million Euros (biggest signings: Pickering, Kaminski)

Season 21/22:

Net income: 16 million Euros (biggest sale: Armstrong)

Season 22/23:

Net expenditure: 4,8 million Euros (biggest signings: Szmodics, Hyam, Brittain)

Season 23/24:

Net income: 25 million Euros (biggest signing: Wahlstedt, biggest sale: Wharton)

Season 24/25:

Net income: 8,6 million Euros (biggest signing: Gueye, biggest sale: Szmodics)

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Total net income from 2010-2025: 76,2 million Euros

Club made a loss on the following players: Gallagher, Rothwell, Brereton Diaz, Formica, Dann, King, Best

Club made a 'considerable' profit on the following players: Szmodics, Wharton, Armstrong, Jones, Samba, Nzonzi, Gestede, Cairney, Hanley, Duffy, Raya

Note that the club has struck gold on a couple of occasions with academy products / youth intake in Wharton, Raya, Jones and Hanley. Players that cost next to nothing to bring in / develop yet generated relatively large fees. So you barely got a handful of players who the club has made a profit on by acting in the market over the course of 14,5 years. 

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Board has been on record this year saying that player sales won't affect the summer's transfer budget so I wouldn't trust us to spend anything unless it involves players going the other way. 

 

I wonder what the agents made on this lot?

[lraC]

4 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

Firstly, I'm not defending it but provide the facts that we did spend some money. 

Secondly, I would have like us to more money in both window. I have said this clearly in both window. I wanted Thomas-Asante in January. Thought he would fit our squad and I would target him again this summer if I was in charge. I wanted De Lange last summer and he was be good keeper for us but Rovers wouldn't pay the extra cash of 200/300k for him. 

Thirdly, I agree we are missing an opportunity to reinvest more money then we did last summer. Last summer, it was reported Eustace wanted to sign Jay Stansfield permanently and spend all the Szmodics money on him. I wanted him 2 years ago cos I thought he would be good signing. Last summer, spending that amount of money would have been a sign of intent and big push for a playoff place. 

 

You are spot on suggesting some of the signings you have. Just a competent goalkeeper, as we all know on here, would surely have got us in the play offs, so £200k based on this post, to secure a play off place, but not worth the risk apparently.

[Blow-in]

1 hour ago, chaddyrovers said:

 

Some better than others. Ohashi probably best buy we done last summer for cash. 

 

Is that not the very definistion of a "mixed bag"

[chaddyrovers]

22 minutes ago, lraC said:

The bigger picture here is we could so easily have been Sunderland. If you look at some of the signings Chaddy himself suggested, just 2 or 3 of those, would have given us a wonderful opportunity, so no real way of defending the actual signings.

Agreed. Not asking for tens of millions pounds for 2 or 3 million pounds for a couple of signings

18 minutes ago, roversfan99 said:

No the time to answer whether we have faith in the owners providing the required funding and the staff having the necessary competence is now. Its a prediction, its what we think will happen.

The time to answer whether we have had a good window is obviously after. I was asking whether you have faith in us bringing in everything that we need, both quality and quantity.

How much funding do you want and do you have faith in Gestede yourself? 

I would like to see a new keeper, centre back, 2 centre midfielder and 2 or 3 attacking players. How much would that cost? God knows, but we must improve the quality of our loan signings. 

I'm unsure on whether I think Gestede can do it. How much of the transfer negotiation did he do last season I dont know, but let's hope he can do for the sake of Rovers and our season. 

[roversfan99]

Just now, chaddyrovers said:

Agreed. Not asking for tens of millions pounds for 2 or 3 million pounds for a couple of signings

How much funding do you want and do you have faith in Gestede yourself? 

I would like to see a new keeper, centre back, 2 centre midfielder and 2 or 3 attacking players. How much would that cost? God knows, but we must improve the quality of our loan signings. 

I'm unsure on whether I think Gestede can do it. How much of the transfer negotiation did he do last season I dont know, but let's hope he can do for the sake of Rovers and our season. 

I dont have faith either in the owners for providing anything like a reasonable enough budget or stooges like Gestede and the lingering Suhail sticking his nose in to have the competence to suitably fix the issues we have. I think we will get most of the positions we need filled, just not of a reasonable enough quality.

I am happy not to sit on the fence and say that. History shows that we have no reason to trust these people.

[roverblue]

I said it a few weeks ago but I will be amazed if we spend any money on player signings until either the court case is resolved or we sell some players.

Even if we sell some players I could see it being needed to run the operational side rather than purchases.

I am expecting nothing but loans and free transfers.

[jim mk2]

Agree with the above

The shocking and unwelcome demise of the women's team shows the accountants are in charge at Ewood and that spending this summer will be minimal.