Hasta Posted 12 hours ago Posted 12 hours ago (edited) I’m not naive enough to think that money and contract length aren’t key points for renewals. But I heard from a good source towards the end of the season that a lot of senior players aren’t happy with how the club has been over the last couple of years, especially with the manner of Eustace leaving. Since then we’ve had Waggot depart, giving Suhail more control, and the shambles of the women’s team. I suspect the likes of Brittain and Travis don’t really want to renew. It’s just being leaked as financial as that’s the only way to save face. Similar with Baath. As a regular starter you think he’d sign up straight away for another season. He could want two years. But he could just want out. Edited 12 hours ago by Hasta 7 Quote
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simongarnerisgod Posted 12 hours ago Posted 12 hours ago 1 minute ago, Hasta said: I’m not naive enough to think that money and contract length aren’t key points for renewals. But I heard from a good source towards the end of the season that a lot of senior players aren’t happy with how the club has been over the last couple of years, especially with the manner of Eustace leaving. Since then we’ve had Waggot depart, giving Suhail more control, and the shambles of the women’s team. I suspect the likes of Brittain and Travis don’t really want to renew. It’s just being leaked as financial as that’s the only was to save face. Similar with Baath. As a regular starter you think he’d sign up straight away for another season. He could want two years. But he could just want out. relegation is going to happen is`nt it,sooner or later 1 Quote
Popular Post JHRover Posted 12 hours ago Popular Post Posted 12 hours ago (edited) 15 minutes ago, Hasta said: I’m not naive enough to think that money and contract length aren’t key points for renewals. But I heard from a good source towards the end of the season that a lot of senior players aren’t happy with how the club has been over the last couple of years, especially with the manner of Eustace leaving. Since then we’ve had Waggot depart, giving Suhail more control, and the shambles of the women’s team. I suspect the likes of Brittain and Travis don’t really want to renew. It’s just being leaked as financial as that’s the only was to save face. Similar with Baath. As a regular starter you think he’d sign up straight away for another season. He could want two years. But he could just want out. A bit like with the fans, the first one or two occasions where we chucked away good chances at promotion could conceivably be down to mistake, error of judgment etc. But it's happened now 3-4 times in the last 5 years. The players have worked their backsides off to get us into January in the mix and the regime has done absolutely nothing to help get us through the second half of the season. Instead they've simply expected more from the same players, run them into the ground, forced good managers out and continued to cut costs. People have started to realise that it isn't down to luck, misfortune, error or any other excuse. It is down to the regime, the very same remains in firm control today. If you are a player wanting to achieve success in the game you clearly aren't going to do that here. Even if we surpass all expectations and get into contention at Christmas this regime won't thank them, reward them with improved terms, or move to help them by bringing in quality reinforcements. And inevitably it will fizzle out, just as it has every year. The regime isn't changing course, it is doubling down. Why anyone would want to stay here after the events of the last 3-4 years is anyone's guess. At least at another club there's a chance they might try if they get to January in with a shout. Because that's all people ask for - to try - I'm afraid nobody associated with this regime can honestly claim that we've tried the last few years. Edited 12 hours ago by JHRover 14 Quote
Rover1984 Posted 12 hours ago Posted 12 hours ago If Travis doesn’t get the money he wants then I wouldn’t say that’s his Rovers career done. Could take Dolans stance and see out his contract. Get more than enough season after as a free, and wouldn’t put it past these owners for allowing him to do it 1 Quote
islander200 Posted 12 hours ago Posted 12 hours ago Wrexham have started their summer spending signing Ryan Hardie from Plymouth for an undisclosed fee Quote
Tomphil2 Posted 12 hours ago Posted 12 hours ago 54 minutes ago, Eternal Optimist said: Am I the only one who actually wouldn’t give Travis anymore money than he is already on? Yeah ok he runs around, so does Mo Farah! We have Tronstad who is better at breaking up play there’s no need for two defensive sitting midfielders. Travis doesn’t score, doesn’t assist & gets booked constantly My opinion sell to the highest bidder I wouldn't worry all indications is he hasn't been offered anything which shows they want to flog him. If/when they do they'll not be offering him more just most likely same wage, 2 years with a year option to which he'll say know if his agent has drummed up some serious interest. Then the fall out will be how much they'll let him go for which might well already be the hold up. Quote
islander200 Posted 12 hours ago Posted 12 hours ago 5 minutes ago, roversfan99 said: Good signing that. Only £700 grand according to reports ,we probably didn't even consider him.Gestede too busy scouring Europe for players that will cost under half a million    2 Quote
roversfan99 Posted 12 hours ago Posted 12 hours ago Gestede is a novice who possibly doesnt appreciate the importance of the core of Championship proven quality we already have or the need to sprinkle some more i amidst potential signings from abroad. Quote
Tugayisgod Posted 11 hours ago Posted 11 hours ago 24 minutes ago, islander200 said: Only £700 grand according to reports ,we probably didn't even consider him.Gestede too busy scouring Europe for players that will cost under half a million    Have to wait to see who else they sign , but its not a signing that makes me think "yeah, they're really going for it this season " Quote
davulsukur Posted 11 hours ago Posted 11 hours ago 27 minutes ago, roversfan99 said: Gestede is a novice who possibly doesnt appreciate the importance of the core of Championship proven quality we already have or the need to sprinkle some more i amidst potential signings from abroad. Assuming none of Trav, Tronstad, Brittain or Hyam leave, I'll bet none of our summer signings start the season opener. Quote
islander200 Posted 11 hours ago Posted 11 hours ago 31 minutes ago, Tugayisgod said: Have to wait to see who else they sign , but its not a signing that makes me think "yeah, they're really going for it this season " Might not be a glamorous name but It's a smart and solid first signing.10 goals and 3 assists in 36 games for a relegated side. Sky saying he had a release clause that kicked in when Plymouth dropped to league one. I wouldn't have said no to having him here at the price they paid for him.Wrexham will have more ambitious targets,their owners won't want to be treading water in the championship and they will have genuine ambitions of getting into the Premier league, unlike ours  Quote
had.e.nuff Posted 10 hours ago Posted 10 hours ago On 14/06/2025 at 21:17, ... said: No it isn't. Let's do a a full 4 page bicker as someone once said this is getting far too silly. 1 Quote
... Posted 10 hours ago Posted 10 hours ago Just now, had.e.nuff said: as someone once said this is getting far too silly. "On second thought, let's not go to Camelot. Tis a silly place." 1 Quote
chaddyrovers Posted 10 hours ago Posted 10 hours ago 4 hours ago, Tomphil2 said: Last weeks signing will be replacing Dolan on the payroll on low wages and the fee over the course of the contract will amount to no more than about 150k per year which will be covered by Dolans compensation. Depends where he moves to. As Peterborough have find out this with Jones and possibly Poku moving to non English clubs meaning they don't not much of any fee. Which you haven't thought off 4 hours ago, Tomphil2 said: An easy low cost signing that fits the current model. I never said they'd offered Batth a 2 year contract it's you that has kept parroting that, i told you the quote i read from Nixon said Rovers had offered 1 yr but he wanted 2 and Derby would match that. what quote? I have said what I recall Nicko saying on Radio Lancs over a week ago 4 hours ago, Tomphil2 said: Nowhere has it been said hes had an official offer just as yesterday YOU said Rovers have offered Travis a contract yet nowhere has that been said that he has. All that has been said is the club are speaking to his reps there is no mention of an actual offer or of him turning it down. It's all in the wording. Rovers willing to offer a 3 year contract is what was reported. All in the wording Quote
roversfan99 Posted 10 hours ago Posted 10 hours ago Willing and having actually offered a deal, thats a big difference. The fact that we didnt offer him a new deal a year ago, never mind now is unacceptable. Same with the others. 4 Quote
chaddyrovers Posted 10 hours ago Posted 10 hours ago 1 hour ago, islander200 said: Only £700 grand according to reports ,we probably didn't even consider him. Gestede too busy scouring Europe for players that will cost under half a million Is Gestede doing the scouting or is people like Michael Cairney and Piotr Sadowski doing the actually scouting of players? Quote
DutchRover Posted 10 hours ago Posted 10 hours ago As far as I am concerned the club and Nixon are just laying the groundwork for their excuses. I'm not interested in semantics of "have offered" "are willing to offer" "open to discussing" etc. Either they are signed or they are not, end of. Until club signs them I don't care what comes out in the press. 9 Quote
Upside Down Posted 10 hours ago Author Posted 10 hours ago 11 hours ago, chaddyrovers said: You need to take each player situation into this. BBD didn't want to sign a new contract but JDT and GB didn't want to sell him. Similar with Dolan who Eustace and Rovers were happy to keep last season and GB tried for 18 months to get him to sign new contracts and he didn't. Nyambe, I wouldn't be offering him a contract and as we seen Brittain he is twice the player he was. Lenihan was offered good contract by us but choose to seek a move elsewhere.  Are you fucking serious? Pathetic chaddy, even for you. 3 Quote
Upside Down Posted 10 hours ago Author Posted 10 hours ago 2 hours ago, JHRover said: A bit like with the fans, the first one or two occasions where we chucked away good chances at promotion could conceivably be down to mistake, error of judgment etc. But it's happened now 3-4 times in the last 5 years. The players have worked their backsides off to get us into January in the mix and the regime has done absolutely nothing to help get us through the second half of the season. Instead they've simply expected more from the same players, run them into the ground, forced good managers out and continued to cut costs. People have started to realise that it isn't down to luck, misfortune, error or any other excuse. It is down to the regime, the very same remains in firm control today. If you are a player wanting to achieve success in the game you clearly aren't going to do that here. Even if we surpass all expectations and get into contention at Christmas this regime won't thank them, reward them with improved terms, or move to help them by bringing in quality reinforcements. And inevitably it will fizzle out, just as it has every year. The regime isn't changing course, it is doubling down. Why anyone would want to stay here after the events of the last 3-4 years is anyone's guess. At least at another club there's a chance they might try if they get to January in with a shout. Because that's all people ask for - to try - I'm afraid nobody associated with this regime can honestly claim that we've tried the last few years. They can't claim that ever. Quote
Torgeir Posted 10 hours ago Posted 10 hours ago 2 hours ago, Rover1984 said: If Travis doesn’t get the money he wants then I wouldn’t say that’s his Rovers career done. Could take Dolans stance and see out his contract. Get more than enough season after as a free, and wouldn’t put it past these owners for allowing him to do it Would he risk it with his playing style? If he stays then that's more down to the club than him imo, but you never know. Since we're seemingly a bit more desperate for cash these days, my guess is he leaves for an undisclosed fee (£2.5m). Quote
simongarnerisgod Posted 10 hours ago Posted 10 hours ago 1 hour ago, Tugayisgod said: Have to wait to see who else they sign , but its not a signing that makes me think "yeah, they're really going for it this season " he`ll keep you in the division with 10/12 goals a season,proper honest championship centre forward,works his arris off as well Quote
Tomphil2 Posted 9 hours ago Posted 9 hours ago 56 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said: Depends where he moves to. As Peterborough have find out this with Jones and possibly Poku moving to non English clubs meaning they don't not much of any fee. Which you haven't thought off what quote? I have said what I recall Nicko saying on Radio Lancs over a week ago Rovers willing to offer a 3 year contract is what was reported. All in the wording 'Willing' just like it was said Derby were 'willing' to go to 2 years. Yes it is all in the wording isn't it i'm glad you've finally grasped it. 1 Quote
roversfan99 Posted 8 hours ago Posted 8 hours ago 1 hour ago, DutchRover said: As far as I am concerned the club and Nixon are just laying the groundwork for their excuses. I'm not interested in semantics of "have offered" "are willing to offer" "open to discussing" etc. Either they are signed or they are not, end of. Until club signs them I don't care what comes out in the press. This. Quote
oneandycrawford Posted 8 hours ago Posted 8 hours ago On 15/06/2025 at 11:42, Upside Down said: If the club had the slightest shred of ambition and also actually tried to get people into the ground then regular attendance would be around 20-23k. As it stands they can only manage to get 14-16k depending on away support. That's with zero ambition and zero effort. They can still get 8k season ticket sales despite hiking the price and additional penalty fees. In short, this club is very well supported given the location and size of town. Totally agree that support is good relative to size of town and the large number of surrounding clubs (a fact supporters of the likes of Norwich and Leicester tend to ignore when criticising our support). However that does mean in absolute terms our support will always be limited compared to many other clubs. I remember the 92 play-off final and the Old Trafford FA cup semi-final as two occasions when we couldn't sell our allocation. Quote
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