Rover1984 Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago 50 minutes ago, Exiled_Rover said: So we have no money for transfers and our most promising youngsters get picked off for pennies. Don't you just love football? This applies on Dolans future Quote
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Ossydave Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago That's a really odd signing for Derby if they get him, presume they've done considerable homework on him to shell that out for him but the bulk of his career is university level π Quote
Exiled_Rover Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago 7 minutes ago, Ossydave said: That's a really odd signing for Derby if they get him, presume they've done considerable homework on him to shell that out for him but the bulk of his career is university level π Bit like whatever that lad from Orlando was called. 1 Quote
simongarnerisgod Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago 4 minutes ago, Exiled_Rover said: Bit like whatever that lad from Orlando was called. duncan mcguireπthe non signing american Quote
RevidgeBlue Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago 49 minutes ago, M_B said: If Eustace hawking his services round to any club which would listen isn't a problem, I don't know what is.Β Because, (according to one or two accounts on here) they went back on promises made to Eustace after he kept us up and he even had to be talked out of leaving and sweetened up with some last minute transfer activity as early as last summer. The fault does not lie with either manager although I would say JDT threw the towel in in very disappointing fashion towards the end of his tenure. Quote
Exiled_Rover Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago 5 minutes ago, RevidgeBlue said: Because, (according to one or two accounts on here) they went back on promises made to Eustace after he kept us up and he even had to be talked out of leaving and sweetened up with some last minute transfer activity as early as last summer. The fault does not lie with either manager although I would say JDT threw the towel in in very disappointing fashion towards the end of his tenure. Both managers overdelivered and then were lied to. Both said "sod this for a game of soldiers". 4 Quote
M_B Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago 32 minutes ago, Exiled_Rover said: Both managers overdelivered and then were lied to. Both said "sod this for a game of soldiers". I don't think they were lied to, I just don't think the coaches and club were aligned properly,not helped by constantly changing staff behind the scenes. Β Β Quote
simongarnerisgod Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago 4 minutes ago, M_B said: I don't think they were lied to, I just don't think the coaches and club were aligned properly,not helped by constantly changing staff behind the scenes. Β Β of course they were lied to ,jdt over the budget (which they took awayΒ in his second season) and eustace over the transfer policy,both of them would have stayed if the club was normal and well run Quote
Emerald Isle Rover Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago 7 minutes ago, simongarnerisgod said: of course they were lied to ,jdt over the budget (which they took awayΒ in his second season) and eustace over the transfer policy,both of them would have stayed if the club was normal and well run Well not Eustace he wanted to move closer to his family by all accounts. Thatβs what he has said in all his interviewsΒ Iv stated many times on this forum if your taking the rovers job you should have done your researchβ¦β¦..the transfer failings / the excuses / the lies / the finances is all there in the public eye and even for a month JDT played it out publicly. So knowing this information and taking the rovers job thatβs on them (lies should never be told but it happens often)Β Quote
MarkBRFC Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago 1 minute ago, Emerald Isle Rover said: Well not Eustace he wanted to move closer to his family by all accounts. Thatβs what he has said in all his interviewsΒ Eustace came out within days of moving there seeing that it had been claimed that he moved for those reasons, and that it wasn't true. 2 Quote
Mercer Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago 3 minutes ago, Emerald Isle Rover said: Well not Eustace he wanted to move closer to his family by all accounts. Thatβs what he has said in all his interviewsΒ Iv stated many times on this forum if your taking the rovers job you should have done your researchβ¦β¦..the transfer failings / the excuses / the lies / the finances is all there in the public eye and even for a month JDT played it out publicly. So knowing this information and taking the rovers job thatβs on them (lies should never be told but it happens often)Β I am told he even applied for the Plymouth job when Rooney left - if correct, and the source is a respected journalist, that does not align to moving for family reasons! Quote
RevidgeBlue Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago (edited) 4 minutes ago, Mercer said: I am told he even applied for the Plymouth job when Rooney left - if correct, and the source is a respected journalist, that does not align to moving for family reasons! Shows how intolerable it must have been working for the 3 stooges. What manager worth his salt would actually want to bob along indefinitely, never aiming for or achieving any success, but maybe developing and selling on a player or two if we're lucky? Edited 3 hours ago by RevidgeBlue 1 Quote
Tomphil2 Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago 29 minutes ago, M_B said: I don't think they were lied to, I just don't think the coaches and club were aligned properly,not helped by constantly changing staff behind the scenes. Β Β So if the club said we are aligned with your ambitions and within reason we will provide the backing trying to achieve those ambitions then they didn't, there were basically lied to. 1 Quote
Tomphil2 Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago 12 minutes ago, MarkBRFC said: Eustace came out within days of moving there seeing that it had been claimed that he moved for those reasons, and that it wasn't true. Yep it wasn't the fans or lack of them, it wasn't to be closer to home although no doubt that was a handy bonus, it wasn't the group of players they loved him and he loved them. So i wonder what it was ? Quote
Gav Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago (edited) 17 minutes ago, Mercer said: I am told he even applied for the Plymouth job when Rooney left - if correct, and the source is a respected journalist, that does not align to moving for family reasons! Bullshit and you know it isΒ πΒ He never applied for the Preston Job either, more nonsence.Β Β Edited 2 hours ago by Gav 2 Quote
simongarnerisgod Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago 15 minutes ago, RevidgeBlue said: Shows how intolerable it must have been working for the 3 stooges. What manager worth his salt would actually want to bob along indefinitely, never aiming for or achieving any success, but maybe developing and selling on a player or two if we're lucky? mowbray was happy to do that,he`d probably still be here if the chicken killers had offered him a new contract,any manager with any ambition,they are out of brockhall pretty sharpish when the truth of the scenario reveals itself,i expect val to do the same,he does`nt appear to be someone who will work with idiots Quote
Mercer Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago (edited) 18 minutes ago, Gav said: Bullshit and you know it isΒ πΒ He never applied for the Preston Job either, more nonsence.Β Β The Plymouth one is not bullsh1t! I posted about it before when all the stuff was going on about Eustace. I am not going to name the respected journalist who told me this but if you knew his identity then you would not be so dismissive. By the way, did you ever track down Dyche in La Manga where you claimed him to be at the same time he passed me by in Brockhall!?!? Edited 2 hours ago by Mercer Quote
RevidgeBlue Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago 45 minutes ago, Emerald Isle Rover said: Well not Eustace he wanted to move closer to his family by all accounts. Thatβs what he has said in all his interviewsΒ Seemingly Derby are preparing to spend big on a striker. Meanwhile Our DOF has proudly delivered the inspiring message that the days of us parting with a large fee for a player are over. I'd suggest that has a bit more to do with it than the respective distances from his doorstep. 1 Quote
M_B Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago 37 minutes ago, Tomphil2 said: So if the club said we are aligned with your ambitions and within reason we will provide the backing trying to achieve those ambitions then they didn't, there were basically lied to. And if the coach is asking for players that the club says they can't afford,and swaps the play offs for a relegation battle, has he engineered a move? I'm guessing the truth lies somewhere in between,and highlights my initial post. Gestede and Ismael being aligned on transfers is the most important thing for Rovers this summer.Β 1 Quote
sharpysharps86 Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago So have we had any more links to players or are we now just debating Eustace and Derby again? Quote
Emerald Isle Rover Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago Not sure man who responded read the most important bit of my postΒ these managers know what their are getting into at roversβ¦.so Iv little sympathy for any of them Quote
roversfan99 Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago 21 minutes ago, Mercer said: The Plymouth one is not bullsh1t! I posted about it before when all the stuff was going on about Eustace. I am not going to name the respected journalist who told me this but if you knew his identity then you would not be so dismissive. By the way, did you ever track down Dyche in La Manga where you claimed him to be at the same time he passed me by in Brockhall!?!? So a well respected journalist had information that wasnt reported anywhere else and instead of publishing a story, he told you? 1 Quote
Tomphil2 Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago Aligned for now yes but lets not forget he was on the scrapheap for 12 months so he'll be aligned to the wage more than anything. I'm sure he'll be delighted if we are in 4th place in January and he gets a loan from Sunderland reserves and a 500k kid to develop from Southampton. Quote
Neal Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago Got to be honest... If we were looking to spunk 8 million on a striker from the MLS I'd be pretty concerned to be honest. It just simply doesn't look like sensible business. Whilst I'd like Rovers to be showing more ambition I certainly wouldn't want them to be gambling big money on unproven players from shite leagues.Β Β Picking up players for 2-3 million I would argue is the way most championship clubs should be operating, with the exception of yoyo clubs. How many players are you going to sign in the championship that you can sell for massive money? Not many. If they sign this guy for 8 million what are the chances they could sell him for double? Not great IMO.Β 4 Quote
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