2025 Summer Transfer Thread. 😂

[Trinidad Rover]

What is becoming more and more evident is the owners view Rovers as a line on a P&L (and have for some time).

Pasha and Gestede's job is to make that line look better.

Fans do not fit into that equation. They do not believe we can fundamentally impact profits (decline in season tickets makes v little difference so not much incentive for them to increase them). The total lack of commercial capability or strategy further illustrates they don't see that as a worthwhile revenue stream.

Ultimately:

1. Money in is from transfers, TV rights and through the league, (they think the academy but this model is broken)

2. Money out: wages, transfer fees, 'running' costs,

Wages, transfer fees and running costs (including women's team) are controllable, hence all three being slashed. Running costs they fund to the minimum.

Grim times with us, the fans, being held in utter contempt and apathy.

 

[Emerald Isle Rover]

3 minutes ago, RevidgeBlue said:

No, because who would risk  leaving an eye watering amount of money on the table like that?

If he was ever offered anything it would have been for a nominal increase on his existing deal and not even worth considering. But at least then the Club would have been able to change the narrative and pin the blame on the player.

But you said he wasn’t offered one and you don’t believe Broughton 

[Exiled_Rover]

35 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

Maybe they are moving from Brittain perhaps

More than likely they're getting both.

[RevidgeBlue]

2 minutes ago, Emerald Isle Rover said:

But you said he wasn’t offered one and you don’t believe Broughton 

Ok, if you want to be pedantic, I don't believe he was ever made a REALISTIC offer of a new contract back then otherwise he would undoubtedly have signed it.

Just like I don't believe he's been made an offer which reflects anything like his true worth now. Although of course now, he'll have a lot more options having been allowed to run his contract down and can afford to be a bit more choosy.

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2 hours ago, Tomphil2 said:

Given how shallow they came across when they first turned up that wouldn't be the least bit surprising.

That's what I mean I bet their basic ayof thinking led them to us.

[Emerald Isle Rover]

4 minutes ago, RevidgeBlue said:

Ok, if you want to be pedantic, I don't believe he was ever made a REALISTIC offer of a new contract back then otherwise he would undoubtedly have signed it.

Just like I don't believe he's been made an offer which reflects anything like his true worth now. Although of course now, he'll have a lot more options having been allowed to run his contract down and can afford to be a bit more choosy.

That’s better 

[roversfan99]

Ismael paving the way for Travis and Tronstad to leave.

His demeanour in the BBC Lancashire clip seemed frosty but hard to tell if hes already getting pissed off as he seems to just be like that all the time.

People will jump to the defence of the club by saying we moan when we let players run their contracts down and moan when we sell. To me, the issue wouldnt be selling them. Its again, how has it got to this? Why werent contracts offered earlier? Why do so many people want to go elsewhere?

[J*B]

Question for anyone that doesn't rate Dolan, or rates him as an average Championship player - if he was on a 3 year deal with, lets say, Norwich, how much do you think it would take to buy him?

[roversfan99]

45 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

Exactly 1000% correct there. 

GB tried and tried yet Dolan didn't want to talk cos he was changing agent. Maybe that was the sign he was lining up his next move. 

He now still no move line up unlike BBD did when he left us. Maybe his demands are too high as the Turkish club chairman or those supposedly interested clubs havent materialise into actual offers. Whichever it is he has gone from us and we moved on now. 

Maybe they are moving from Brittain perhaps

Have we moved on? We are all still talking about it. And the club still has a massive hole in the position where he played.

Yes, I am sure he, like Brittain, Tronstad, Travis all are just being individually unrealistically greedy.

[roversfan99]

1 hour ago, Emerald Isle Rover said:

Seems very plausible to me 

Broughton who was clearly best ant contracts in his role couldn’t even get a response from Dolan in the summer of 23 

then he found a new agent believe it to be the same one as Diaz who has likely been filling his head about potentials offers etc

of all that’s messed up at our club this scenario we’re speaking about now I could easily see being the case and I put a lot of ot down to agent as opposed the player himself 

With 2 years left on his deal? Thats a long time to be on peanuts unless the deal he was offered was not much more.

Your figures are obviously totally hypothetical but do you think any other wide player in the division who plays every week is on £6k? I suspect very few if any.

[ruggles1995]

I don't know about anyone else but I don't see losing Brittain as a big deal. Id say hes average at best. Apart from crossing a football hes not exactly been outstanding. Anything between 3-5 mill would be good business I think. Hes not blessed with pace and hes not exactly the best defender. I've watched many occasions him get his pants pulled down. Id love to see duru stay fit and get a go, loads of pace, and whenever he did play he did ok, I know it wasn't many mins for us but theres a player there. Id also say there are other positions that are worse to lose. 

[RevidgeBlue]

1 minute ago, roversfan99 said:

Ismael paving the way for Travis and Tronstad to leave.

His demeanour in the BBC Lancashire clip seemed frosty but hard to tell if hes already getting pissed off as he seems to just be like that all the time.

People will jump to the defence of the club by saying we moan when we let players run their contracts down and moan when we sell. To me, the issue wouldnt be selling them. Its again, how has it got to this? Why werent contracts offered earlier? Why do so many people want to go elsewhere?

It seems quite clear that we're no longer prepared to pay the going rate for established Championship players either in terms of transfer fees or wages.

It really is as simple as that and is only going to go one way. I've no idea how anyone can call any of the players greedy or expect any of the slightly better ones to extend their stays here under those circumstances.

[Emerald Isle Rover]

5 minutes ago, roversfan99 said:

With 2 years left on his deal? Thats a long time to be on peanuts unless the deal he was offered was not much more.

Your figures are obviously totally hypothetical but do you think any other wide player in the division who plays every week is on £6k? I suspect very few if any.

I didn’t mention anything about 6k 

[roversfan99]

1 minute ago, ruggles1995 said:

I don't know about anyone else but I don't see losing Brittain as a big deal. Id say hes average at best. Apart from crossing a football hes not exactly been outstanding. Anything between 3-5 mill would be good business I think. Hes not blessed with pace and hes not exactly the best defender. I've watched many occasions him get his pants pulled down. Id love to see duru stay fit and get a go, loads of pace, and whenever he did play he did ok, I know it wasn't many mins for us but theres a player there. Id also say there are other positions that are worse to lose. 

He was brilliant last season. A huge outlet going forward and improved loads defensively. Lets not underplay his ability just because hes going.

Not to be replaced by a kid who has had injury problems and has barely played.

[roversfan99]

Just now, Emerald Isle Rover said:

I didn’t mention anything about 6k 

Sorry, wrong poster!

[Wheelton Blue]

3 hours ago, Tyrone Shoelaces said:

We were just to the left of the centre circle. So Carter was right in front of me more or less. We were supposed to be on row C but I moved to row D, I didn’t want to be burnt alive. 
On another tropic - what were the mounted police all about ! Were they expecting trouble or did PC Plod fancy a bit of easy overtime in the sun ? 

 

We were on the 'Accy' side of the centre circle. I noticed Carter pull up, then a few moments later he was feeling the back of his thigh so I thought 'hamstring' straight away. My daughter said the same.

Hopefully just a twinge though.

We also noticed the horses near the away entrance. Perhaps there for traffic control, I dunno, but their presence looked a bit odd considering the low key occasion.

[deanives]

23 minutes ago, J*B said:

Question for anyone that doesn't rate Dolan, or rates him as an average Championship player - if he was on a 3 year deal with, lets say, Norwich, how much do you think it would take to buy him?

You could look at it at a different way,

Would Dolan be in the first team squad regularly at Norwich? If he was in and around the first team mainly as sub for the last 2 years and only made 15 appearances, mainly as sub appearances. Then how much would he be worth? 

I would say £1million. Still doesn't make any difference that he should of been allowed to run his contract down with Rovers receiving zero.

Is Brittain a villian for pushing for a move with a year left on his contract which he knows he won't renew with the peanuts that Rovers will offer him, or does he earn £3 million for the club that has looked after him and improved him for the last few years.

Look at Dolan, Brereton, Lenihan, Nyambe to name a few in the last few years that have completely sold us as fans and the club who had nurtured them.

The real villains are Venkys, pasha and gestede for the piss poor management and driving these players out with our league 1 budget

Edited 8 hours ago by deanives

[Ghost7]

17 minutes ago, J*B said:

Question for anyone that doesn't rate Dolan, or rates him as an average Championship player - if he was on a 3 year deal with, lets say, Norwich, how much do you think it would take to buy him?

 

I bet he doesn't transfer once in his career for anything over £3m. Hard-worker, poor technique, weak finisher, not that quick but is over inflated because he's young, English and has played way too many games at an underinvested club. We've made him appear better than he is.

I'm absolutely certain he wouldn't have got the number of appearances he did with us at any other top 8 Championship club... and he's cashing in on it.

He's low risk now but I'm not sure anyone decent ever would have taken the risk on him.

[JCRovers]

7 minutes ago, ruggles1995 said:

I don't know about anyone else but I don't see losing Brittain as a big deal. Id say hes average at best. Apart from crossing a football hes not exactly been outstanding. Anything between 3-5 mill would be good business I think. Hes not blessed with pace and hes not exactly the best defender. I've watched many occasions him get his pants pulled down. Id love to see duru stay fit and get a go, loads of pace, and whenever he did play he did ok, I know it wasn't many mins for us but theres a player there. Id also say there are other positions that are worse to lose. 

Brittain was a key player last season. To say it's not a big deal and then say Duru (who has played the sum total of 1 whole minute in the Championship) is ready to replace him is fantasy talk. Montgomery is currently ahead of him as are new signing Alebiosu. None of them are nowhere near Brittain's quality at the moment, though. 

I get the the feeling that some posters on here are deliberately trying to downplay every outgoing from the club, whether it's Dolan, Brittain, Batth or someone else...

[RevidgeBlue]

2 minutes ago, Ghost7 said:

 

I bet he doesn't transfer once in his career for anything over £3m.

Which even if correct puts him probably about two brackets above the calibre of player we're currently targeting.

[ruggles1995]

23 minutes ago, roversfan99 said:

He was brilliant last season. A huge outlet going forward and improved loads defensively. Lets not underplay his ability just because hes going.

Not to be replaced by a kid who has had injury problems and has barely played.

We looked better under Eustace collectively because we were solid as a unit. He might of been better than the previous season, but id say its a bit far fetched to say he was brilliant. Hes not a massive loss imo. Its a fullback, most younger players can usually slip in pretty well at full back with a bit of experience around them. Look at owen beck, even montgomery looked 'ok' there, and even Duru away against burnley when we were down to 10 looked 'ok there', even costello did ok there at times. Its not the hardest position out the 11 to fill imo. Id say its one of the 'easier' positions to fill out of an 11. Im not underplaying his ability because hes leaving, its my honest opinion. Its good money for a fullback thats replaceable. Brittains an ok footballer, he wont define how our season will shape whether he stays or goes. Just my opinion. 

Edited 8 hours ago by ruggles1995

[JHRover]

3 hours ago, chaddyrovers said:

So was Lambert, Mowbray, JDT and Eustace on this scrapheap as you call it

All unemployed and desperate to get back working in the Championship. Lambert needed a steady job after the Villa experience, Mowbray was unemployable in the Championship and had been turned down by Chesterfield after the state he left Coventry in. JDT wanted a route into England to enhance his reputation and foolishly believed this was a serious outfit and Eustace needed to build on his short Birmingham spell and had been overlooked by numerous other Championship clubs over the previous 6 months.

Common denominator - all were unemployed and keen to work - and all realised after getting into the building the true nature of the Venky beast. Lambert, JDT and Eustace couldn't wait to get out of here. The first two preferred unemployment to staying here any longer, the latter preferred to gamble his career on an uphill battle to avoid League One at Derby County.

Odd one out Mowbray but he managed to get his holiday to India at the start which got his feet under the table and the assurances he wanted, and even then he was undermined and disgracefully treated in his last 12-18 months.

Ismael will go the same way as Lambert, JDT and Eustace. If he makes it to 12 months I will be amazed.

[wilsdenrover]

2 minutes ago, ruggles1995 said:

We looked better under Eustace collectively because we were solid as a unit. He might have been better than the previous season, but id say its a bit far fetched to say he was brilliant. Hes not a massive loss imo. Its a fullback, most younger players can usually slip in pretty well at full back with a bit of experience around them. Look at owen beck, even montgomery looked 'ok' there, and even Duru away against burnley when we were down to 10 looked 'ok there', even costello did ok there at times. Its not the hardest position out the 11 to fill imo. Id say its one of the 'easier' positions to fill out of an 11. Im not underplaying his ability because hes leaving, its my honest opinion. Its good money for a fullback thats replaceable. Brittains an ok footballer, he wont define how our season will shape whether he stays or goes. Just my opinion. 

For me it’s not how good or not he is.

It’s how much worse his replacement would likely be. 

[RevidgeBlue]

2 minutes ago, wilsdenrover said:

For me it’s not how good or not he is.

It’s how much worse his replacement would likely be. 

Arguably, he's already here.

Hedges.

[ruggles1995]

2 minutes ago, wilsdenrover said:

For me it’s not how good or not he is.

It’s how much worse his replacement would likely be. 

yeh i get what you mean. Cost cut every corner i know.