Wheelton Blue Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago I thought we played quite well yesterday, it was an enjoyable game. Beyond the starting eleven plus a couple of others who were missing, the squad is so thin though. They seriously need to get some more experience in there. A couple of injuries to key players - which is bound to happen at some point - and we'll be in Dicky's meadow. Quote
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RevidgeBlue Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago 1 hour ago, alex l said: I get where you're coming from but we've not seen Tronstad linked to another club, does that mean he's poor?Β Hmmmm............ 1 Quote
Emerald Isle Rover Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago 2 minutes ago, RevidgeBlue said: If no-one leaves I dont think we need any more defensive or midfield options. Desperately need a decent right winger and at least one more striker who can chip in towards the goal tally. Someone posted a preferred first X1 a while back which boasted a grand total of 20 League goals between them last season. Ohashi and Gueye are both far better than Gallagher in their own way but probably still won't get you more than 5-10 goals each. We need a lot more firepower and I think VI has more or less admitted as such. Ohashi got 9 last season so not sure why 5 would be associated with him. Nothing is guaranteed of course but given his had a full pre season and not a half a season behind him itβs a fair assumption to make he will get over the 10 goals this season thag said another striker in would be helpfulΒ 2 Quote
RevidgeBlue Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago Just now, Emerald Isle Rover said: Ohashi got 9 last season so not sure why 5 would be associated with him. Nothing is guaranteed of course but given his had a full pre season and not a half a season behind him itβs a fair assumption to make he will get over the 10 goals this season thag said another striker in would be helpfulΒ Didn't say 5. Said 5-10. Same as last season. Quote
jim mk2 Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago 1 minute ago, RevidgeBlue said: Hmmmm............ Β Hmmmm..... let it go Simon. He's an important player for us who will be missed badly if he goes. I think you know this 2 Quote
Neal Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago 9 minutes ago, B16Rover said: Preferably avoid Chair as he throws bricks at lorries.Β Cantwell has the capacity for this. Hopefully the Leicester lad can ease the creative burden and let cantwell roam moreΒ He doesn't do it. He wanders into too many unthreatening areas of the pitch trying to be a playmaker and his finishing/shooting is awful. He's a flashes of brilliance player but those bits of ability aren't in the final third enough.Β 1 Quote
chaddyrovers Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago 1 hour ago, ROVER_N_OUT1978 said: Swansea looking to offload Jerry Yates. I mean we could do a lot worse and his pressing style would suit our set up.Β He would offer good competition to and share the burden with Yuki. I think we need a striker with abit pace, given us something different up front to Ohashi and Gueye. I think Ohashi will suit Ismael's style and I think he will get 15 goals this season if he stays fitΒ Quote
Emerald Isle Rover Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago 5 minutes ago, RevidgeBlue said: Didn't say 5. Said 5-10. Same as last season. And Iv stated why itβs a fair assumption Ohashi willΒ Quote
Scotty1991 Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago If Hayden Carter plays 20 games this season itβll be unbelievable. That squad is so thin itβs scary! 1 Quote
Emerald Isle Rover Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago 2 minutes ago, Neal said: He doesn't do it. He wanders into too many unthreatening areas of the pitch trying to be a playmaker and his finishing/shooting is awful. He's a flashes of brilliance player but those bits of ability aren't in the final third enough.Β Fell Val can get the best out of him his best form in a rovers shirt was end of last season and albeit a friendly yesterday he was excellent in the first halfΒ 3 Quote
chaddyrovers Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago 1 minute ago, Neal said: He doesn't do it. He wanders into too many unthreatening areas of the pitch trying to be a playmaker and his finishing/shooting is awful. He's a flashes of brilliance player but those bits of ability aren't in the final third enough.Β Lets see how he plays this season after a full pre season and we need Cantwell to be the playmaker if Travis and Tronstad are our Centre midfielders as starters Quote
B16Rover Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago 2 minutes ago, Neal said: He doesn't do it. He wanders into too many unthreatening areas of the pitch trying to be a playmaker and his finishing/shooting is awful. He's a flashes of brilliance player but those bits of ability aren't in the final third enough.Β I do agree - I've made the joke a few times that if he looked like Steve McDonald he wouldn't be a guaranteed starter. Quote
RevidgeBlue Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago 4 minutes ago, jim mk2 said: Β Hmmmm..... let it go Simon. He's an important player for us who will be missed badly if he goes. I think you know this Depends on the fee he'd fetch and who' would beΒ brought in to replacement. Difficult to gauge as there's been no obvious interest in him to date. Quote
ObiWhan8t7 Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago (edited) Cantwell looked in very good shape yesterday. Worked hard, and it was his burst in to the box that enabled De Neve tap in. Didnβt see that sort of sprint from him last season, I think heβs going to be a key player this year. Needs to be more selfish with pop shots, But a fitter, sharper Cantwell could easily add this to his game. Still needs a back up for him as he wonβt be able to play every game Edited 4 hours ago by ObiWhan8t7 3 Quote
chaddyrovers Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago 4 hours ago, yeti-dog said: Disagree. We might have 5 centre midfielders but the quality once you move past Travis and Tronstad is very questionable. I can live with Forshaw as 5th choice but Buckley needs to be sold. He's not a VI type player - sell him and bring one more in. never included Buckley in that 5.Β Travis, Tronstad, Montgomery, Forshaw and Tavares is the 5 4 hours ago, Tomphil2 said: It's not really a noteworthy story worth 'reporting' is it. maybe not for yourself cos it suits you 1 hour ago, roversfan99 said: Can get into as many good positions as he wants, he doesnt do much in those positions, the fact that you are hyping up a pass in the build up to a goal in a friendly and one of only 2 assists (and one goal) he got last season suggests hes little use. You was very keen to say that hes fine as a squad player. I presume you still think we need a first choice right winger anyway. Hopefully we can finally get one as repeated failures to do so in the market have left us having to play him. I said this morning we need 3 more signings in now, a centre back, right side attacking player and striker. Plus any replacement if Travis, Pears, Tronstad or Brittain leaves that's gives us 26 players in the squad.Β 1 hour ago, roversfan99 said: Says a lot about the Forshaw signing that so many feel that even with one signing that we are still short. Pointless signing. Before acknowledging that Dolan and obviously Weimann were leaving, we wanted a right winger and a forward. We didnt score enough goals last season. I just cant get my head around why people think we just need a right winger now. We have no senior competition for Cantwell without Weimann and we also dont have a striker in. Gueye is not direct competition for Ohashi as he forces a total change in style. We need more than 1, that is for sure. We need more goals and more pace. Won't Baradji be that right side attacking player if he signs here?Β Β 1 hour ago, roversfan99 said: And the reason he has played so much is that we have failed repeatedly to successfully recruit wide players full stop. is it? so JDT and Eustace told you this? Both picked him regularlyΒ Quote
RevidgeBlue Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago 4 minutes ago, Emerald Isle Rover said: And Iv stated why itβs a fair assumption Ohashi willΒ It wouldn't be a surprise if he got say 7. I'd be quite surprised if he got more than the 9 he managed last season. I dont see him as a 15 goal a season striker. Even if he did, we still need far more unless everyone starts chipping in from all over the pitch which they haven't done to date. Quote
ObiWhan8t7 Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago Need to forget about Baradgi. Elliot reported that what fans have been saying over social media is what the likely Injury is. Stress fracture is an injury you canβt put a time frame on due to how delicate the process is and could need resetting multiple times. I think we will revisit that deal in January unless they accept lowball offer to originally agreedΒ Quote
Emerald Isle Rover Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago 2 minutes ago, RevidgeBlue said: It wouldn't be a surprise if he got say 7. I'd be quite surprised if he got more than the 9 he managed last season. I dont see him as a 15 goal a season striker. Even if he did, we still need far more unless everyone starts chipping in from all over the pitch which they haven't done to date. Of course that could happen same could be said for most strikers before a season starts. I just donβt see your logic behind it considering he scored 9 last year after already playing half a season elsewhere and signs would suggest with a full pre season he could/should get more than thatΒ Quote
Forever Blue Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago 22 minutes ago, Hasta said: I think the criticism was due to his performances in the games he started. He started 12 games last season across 2 clubs and won just one. In most of his Rovers starts he was poor with people going drifting past him too easily leading to him having to stand off his man to avoid getting turned. Forshaw Season 24/25 starts P12 W1 D2 L9 For Rovers when he featured 45mins+ P7 W1 W1 L5 He did play a combined total of 78 minutes in the five games at the end where he did look better as we tended to be in front and defending heavily by that point. βVery goodβ is the over-exaggeration. Plus Batth didnβt look to be on the decline and people are concerned about his age. Forshaw looked old when he featured, clearly is on the decline and turns 34 next month.Β Β Lies, damn lies and statistics. IIRC the stats showed we were more likely to win when S Gally was in the team but he was almost universally derided for being shite.Β Β Quote
Hasta Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago (edited) 2 minutes ago, Forever Blue said: Lies, damn lies and statistics. IIRC the stats showed we were more likely to win when S Gally was in the team but he was almost universally derided for being shite.Β Β As opposed to being derided for being shite and the stats backing it up. Im the first to hold my hand up if I got a player or manager wrong. With Forshaw, he was the absolute wrong signing at the wrong time. Edited 4 hours ago by Hasta Quote
Forever Blue Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago 6 minutes ago, Hasta said: As opposed to being derided for being shite and the stats backing it up. Im the first to hold my hand up if I got a player or manager wrong. With Forshaw, he was the absolute wrong signing at the wrong time. The fitter he got the better he played. Heβs Β a squad player who brings vital experience. We donβt have enough of those players so Iβm glad heβs here. 1 Quote
Blow-in Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago 39 minutes ago, B16Rover said: Preferably avoid Chair as he throws bricks at lorries.Β Cantwell has the capacity for this. Hopefully the Leicester lad can ease the creative burden and let cantwell roam moreΒ Chair is Stool? 1 Quote
Leonard Venkhater Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago 5 minutes ago, Blow-in said: Chair is Stool? Is that you, doctor? Quote
wilsdenrover Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago 5 hours ago, alexanders said: Β ArsenalΒ may be harder to resist given their strong track record of promoting young talent. They have already signed Christian Norgaard, Kepa and Noni Madueke in the summer. From the article about Tyjon. Thatβs quite contradictory. Saying in one sentence that they have a strong record of promoting talent and now trying to to buy their way to the top.Β Β not many homegrown talents left in Arsenal. Most have gone elsewhere.Β Β Theyβd be stealing young talent not promoting it.Β 2 Quote
roversfan99 Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago 21 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said: never included Buckley in that 5.Β Travis, Tronstad, Montgomery, Forshaw and Tavares is the 5 maybe not for yourself cos it suits you I said this morning we need 3 more signings in now, a centre back, right side attacking player and striker. Plus any replacement if Travis, Pears, Tronstad or Brittain leaves that's gives us 26 players in the squad.Β Won't Baradji be that right side attacking player if he signs here?Β Β is it? so JDT and Eustace told you this? Both picked him regularlyΒ Why would we sign a central midfielder (an injured one) to play on the right? And no, its called having an opinion beyond just assuming that if a manager picks a player, its because hes exactly what he wants. Budget restrictions, issues with recruitment etc dont come into it. Still think we are 4 or 5 short. Wanted 6 or 7, lost 2 or 3 that we hadnt factored in. Also still have to sort the futures of Brittain, Tronstad and Travis. We supposedly have "learnt" from previous mistakes Β Quote
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