bigbrandjohn Posted 16 hours ago Posted 16 hours ago 1 hour ago, Exiled_Rover said: In Β Out Β shake it all about β 2 Quote
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bigbrandjohn Posted 16 hours ago Posted 16 hours ago 1 hour ago, Displaced Rover said: Iβm entirely confident Dolanβs time in Spain will go exactly like Breretonβs. That said, presumably on decent money, fair play to him. Well if you get points for bigging it up he will be among the top scorers "La Liga is one of the best leagues in the world, so [it's an] exciting opportunity for me to come and showcase my talent. "The main thing is for me to give 110%, every single game. I'm an exciting player. Skilful, direct, want to get fans off their seats." Quote
... Posted 16 hours ago Posted 16 hours ago (edited) 1 hour ago, JCRovers said: Good move for Dolan, wish him well at Espanyol. He's getting a nice sign-on bonus, salary raise and nice weather conditions to play in. People should be pointing finger at the owners rather than an individual player who decides to leave for more ambitious projects than ours. Club is losing significant transfer money by either neglecting contract situation(s) or fail to cash in when offers do come by (Brereton, Dolan etc.).Β We have, since a couple of years back, entered a rather dangerous (and unsustainable) territory of not being able to renew player contracts leading to a decreased squad value and inability to properly replace the outgoings or strengthen the squad. We also have a head coach who now openly admits that they're willing to gamble on Brittain this year and risk letting him leave for nothing next summer. In addition, no reports suggests that a renewal for either Travis or Tronstad are near as well. What will happen next year if all three were to leave on a free?Β Β We're currently being outspent by thirteen Championship clubs this summer, including all three promoted sides (yes, even Charlton). Out of the ten teams who have spent less than us, you can argue that some of them already have strong squads (Leicester, Middlesbrough, Sheffield Utd.). It leaves us (theoretically) to compete with the likes of Sheffield Wednesday, Preston, Portsmouth, Oxford and Hull to avoid being dragged in a relegation battle this season. Our signings so far are speculative at best, with two players arriving from a relegated Belgian team, one from a team currently under transfer embargo (Hull) and the last one not being a regular starter for a mid-table Portuguese team.Β Β Β Erm erm erm Edited 16 hours ago by ... 1 Quote
neophox Posted 16 hours ago Posted 16 hours ago Dolan will have it tough in Spanish league but good luck to him...we got more from him than we bought him for. 1 Quote
roversfan99 Posted 16 hours ago Posted 16 hours ago 21 minutes ago, Dreams of 1995 said: You need to remember your attitude in situations like this when it comes to those calling you out, to be fair You cry wolf when it comes to bringing up your shocking claims around Szmodics or JRC. Alas, here you are, ready for a pound of Maniβs flesh With Szmodics, I like many thought for the money we paid was too much and I couldnt see why he was bought. I was terribly wrong, and admitted and can admit again that I was totally wrong. On JRC, its not as clear cut an error in judgement because he had a few amazing months then went back to being poor. This isnt some sort of witchhunt to out a single poster. Numerous people made out as if Dolan was greedy, his agent was leading him astray, he must have no offers because he hadnt been signed up again etc. They were wrong, fine, but the argument has now been changed to him potentially struggling in La Liga, which he might I agree, but its not the point. The issue is not people getting people wrong. I often do myself, we all do. 2 Quote
neophox Posted 16 hours ago Posted 16 hours ago Think he likes blue and white colors...but got more cash 1 Quote
Paul Mani Posted 16 hours ago Posted 16 hours ago 2 hours ago, K-Hod said: People are allowed their own opinions, but thereβs definitely an expectation that people should hold their hands up when they get it wrong.Β At the moment though, people that said he wouldnβt get a move anywhere good, are wrong. Iβm saying thatβs okay, but to then say βletβs see how he gets onβ, I donβt agree, Iβm afraid. βLetβs wait until I might be right again in a few years?β Do me a favour. He got a good move, then if he fails and ends up back in the Champo on loan, then fair enough, but heβs currently a La Liga player, when some said he was lower Championship or League one at best.Β They were just factually incorrect, to be fair. Mate, ffsβ¦.since when was there an βexpectation that people hold their hands up when theyβre wrongβ ?? The amount of absolute shite that gets peddled in here and then is consigned to history the day after is huge. I can count on one hand how many times Iβve seen anyone accept anything! π€£ One thing is for sure though, a low risk (basically free) move to Espanyol is NOT proof that Dolan is any better than Rovers or any other mid table Championship team, and with due respect I trust my own eyes over 100+ games over your opinion. On a personal note, I wouldβve been 50/50 on whether I offered him a contract at all. Same with Hedges. Poor players. So once again, why donβt we wait and see if this all works out or heβs on loan at Derby by January. 1 Quote
RoversClitheroe Posted 15 hours ago Posted 15 hours ago 7 minutes ago, Paul Mani said: Mate, ffsβ¦.since when was there an βexpectation that people hold their hands up when theyβre wrongβ ?? The amount of absolute shite that gets peddled in here and then is consigned to history the day after is huge. I can count on one hand how many times Iβve seen anyone accept anything! π€£ One thing is for sure though, a low risk (basically free) move to Espanyol is NOT proof that Dolan is any better than Rovers or any other mid table Championship team, and with due respect I trust my own eyes over 100+ games over your opinion. On a personal note, I wouldβve been 50/50 on whether I offered him a contract at all. Same with Hedges. Poor players. So once again, why donβt we wait and see if this all works out or heβs on loan at Derby by January. Bit silly this. He's playing in the top division in Spain and earning way way more than he was on? So he's got nothing to prove, he's the winner in the situation whether it works or it doesn't π Quote
roversfan99 Posted 15 hours ago Posted 15 hours ago But again, I don't think anyone has suggested that he is good enough for La Liga. I am not sure why whether he is or isn't would justify the main debate that is being had. The point that was being repeatedly debated was whether he had made the right decision to leave Rovers. People felt like it wasn't because he wasn't immediately signed up by a team, hence the talk about a dodgy agent leading him astray, the comparisons to Nyambe, total wild speculation about his ego. But his decision not to sign whatever paltry offer we put in front of him has been proven to be justifed, whatever happens from here on in. He has a chance now to play top level football, he may fail, I think he probably will like Armstrong/Brereton etc, but it wouldn't mean that he shouldn't have tried. He is a decent Championship winger, he has proven that. That is as far as anyone has said, no one has said he has the quality of a top level player.Β But he does leave a hole and he was by far (not much to go against, admittedly) our best winger. He is a loss. Comparisons to Hedges (7 goals and 5 or 6 assist v 1 goal and 2 assists), talk about being in League 1 soon, questioning whether he even should have been offered a contract, talk about him stumbling into league 1, comparisons to youtubers, suggestions that Markanday was better, and its not just one poster, but its all totally hyperbolic nonsense, in my opinion anyway. Quote
TugaysMarlboro Posted 15 hours ago Posted 15 hours ago We really need a RW, Hedges frustrates me more every time I watch him. There's times where he has 5 or 5 touches in quick succession and does well, then 30 seconds later, banjos a 5 yard pass. Tends to fall to pieces in front of goal and usually picks the wrong option. He's a workhorse, but if we do want to push on, he's one that needs to be replaced as a starter. 7 Quote
Moderation Lead K-Hod Posted 15 hours ago Moderation Lead Posted 15 hours ago 26 minutes ago, Paul Mani said: Mate, ffsβ¦.since when was there an βexpectation that people hold their hands up when theyβre wrongβ ?? The amount of absolute shite that gets peddled in here and then is consigned to history the day after is huge. I can count on one hand how many times Iβve seen anyone accept anything! π€£ One thing is for sure though, a low risk (basically free) move to Espanyol is NOT proof that Dolan is any better than Rovers or any other mid table Championship team, and with due respect I trust my own eyes over 100+ games over your opinion. On a personal note, I wouldβve been 50/50 on whether I offered him a contract at all. Same with Hedges. Poor players. So once again, why donβt we wait and see if this all works out or heβs on loan at Derby by January. Iβll wait and see nothing, thanks. Example, I got it wrong on Szmodics, I got it wrong on BBD, I got it wrong on Callum Brittain and I admitted it every time. How is your view of β100+ professional games more valid than the same sample size from anyone else? What makes your views superior to anyone elseβs? Anyhow, how are those bids for Buckley looking? Quote
BankEnd Rover Posted 15 hours ago Posted 15 hours ago 8 minutes ago, TugaysMarlboro said: We really need a RW, Hedges frustrates me more every time I watch him. There's times where he has 5 or 5 touches in quick succession and does well, then 30 seconds later, banjos a 5 yard pass. Tends to fall to pieces in front of goal and usually picks the wrong option. He's a workhorse, but if we do want to push on, he's one that needs to be replaced as a starter. There's a f*ck load going on at the club at the moment but on the pitch, the fact we still have Ryan hedges starting this season AGAIN is simply not acceptable. What other team does he start for? I get he has his positives, works hard, tracks back, Β blah blah but we need to start with so much better. I would rather we pump the rest of our budget on a decent RW and get cheap frees to see RH start at the Hawthorns...Lovely lad but Jesus he's not good enough.Β Β 5 Quote
RoversClitheroe Posted 15 hours ago Posted 15 hours ago 14 minutes ago, K-Hod said: Iβll wait and see nothing, thanks. Example, I got it wrong on Szmodics, I got it wrong on BBD, I got it wrong on Callum Brittain and I admitted it every time. How is your view of β100+ professional games more valid than the same sample size from anyone else? What makes your views superior to anyone elseβs? Anyhow, how are those bids for Buckley looking? K Hod do you not realise? He's just better than you. OkayΒ 2 Quote
Bohinen1983 Posted 15 hours ago Posted 15 hours ago Wouldn't mind Hedges as a wing back- but as a winger, his decision making is appailing.. If it wasn't he'd be playing for an EPL side.. That's how poor is! Quote
BankEnd Rover Posted 15 hours ago Posted 15 hours ago 2 minutes ago, Bohinen1983 said: Wouldn't mind Hedges as a wing back- but as a winger, his decision making is appailing.. If it wasn't he'd be playing for an EPL side.. That's how poor is! It's shocking! Is it 2 full seasons now we've had him as a starter in the first 11? Maybe 3...It's fuckin mental!Β 1 Quote
M_B Posted 15 hours ago Posted 15 hours ago 4 minutes ago, Bohinen1983 said: Wouldn't mind Hedges as a wing back- but as a winger, his decision making is appailing.. If it wasn't he'd be playing for an EPL side.. That's how poor is! He did play Britain in with a lovely ball for the Everton goal 2 Quote
M_B Posted 15 hours ago Posted 15 hours ago 43 minutes ago, Paul Mani said: Mate, ffsβ¦.since when was there an βexpectation that people hold their hands up when theyβre wrongβ ?? The amount of absolute shite that gets peddled in here and then is consigned to history the day after is huge. I can count on one hand how many times Iβve seen anyone accept anything! π€£ One thing is for sure though, a low risk (basically free) move to Espanyol is NOT proof that Dolan is any better than Rovers or any other mid table Championship team, and with due respect I trust my own eyes over 100+ games over your opinion. On a personal note, I wouldβve been 50/50 on whether I offered him a contract at all. Same with Hedges. Poor players. So once again, why donβt we wait and see if this all works out or heβs on loan at Derby by January. As soon as someone makes a comparison between Dolan and Hedges, I completely dismiss their opinion because they obviously haven't watched them play.Β 1 Quote
Andy Posted 14 hours ago Posted 14 hours ago 1 hour ago, roversfan99 said: If anyone is missing Sigurdsson then something has gone horribly wrong. Poor player always injured. Always injured, yeah - but definitely had talent. That we fucked him off for a combination of Woodrow and Dennis last January is borderline criminal neglect. Even a half fit Arnor contributes more than both did for us. 2 Quote
neophox Posted 14 hours ago Posted 14 hours ago Surely Buckley will leave next week...only 4 mins today .. 1 Quote
neophox Posted 14 hours ago Posted 14 hours ago What happened to DennisΒ Β .forest want rid ..one year left on contract... surely we will avoidΒ Quote
Paul Mani Posted 14 hours ago Posted 14 hours ago 33 minutes ago, RoversClitheroe said: K Hod do you not realise? He's just better than you. OkayΒ Correct. π Quote
RoversClitheroe Posted 14 hours ago Posted 14 hours ago 1 minute ago, Paul Mani said: Correct. π Don't even think you're joking eitherΒ Quote
MarkBRFC Posted 14 hours ago Posted 14 hours ago So Ismael has told Elliot that he would like at least two new players before the end of the window, "3 would be perfect" he says. Nothing is close. Quote
chaddyrovers Posted 14 hours ago Posted 14 hours ago 1 minute ago, MarkBRFC said: So Ismael has told Elliot that he would like at least two new players before the end of the window, "3 would be perfect" he says. Nothing is close. Β Β Quote
chaddyrovers Posted 14 hours ago Posted 14 hours ago 10 hours ago, roversfan99 said: https://www.lancashiretelegraph.co.uk/sport/25340506.blackburn-rovers-compensation-figures-tyrhys-dolan/ This is a strange article. Says we are keen to learn our lesson regarding the current crop who have a year left. But it "depends who you speak too" and we are comfortable letting them all stay without having signed a new deal. So not really learning any lessons. Also says compensation will be Β£90k x how many years Dolan signs a contract for. what about the article point about Dolan's wage demands?Β 10 hours ago, Neal said: Rovers pushing an article for Mullarkey Mathews... They're probably angling as Dolans replacement so they don't have to spend.Β Β Is he any good?Β Good prospect for usΒ 9 hours ago, RoversTilliDie said: I hear Arsenal are interested in Tyjon, could we not make a deal, we keep him for a season, then do business. have been all summer and yet he is still hereΒ 6 hours ago, MarkBRFC said: Some sketchy sources linking us to Bali Mumba and Marc Leonard this afternoon. On that RoversXtra twitter page for anyone interested. same source who said Hull are interested in Brittain despite them can't pay fees for players and Derby bid for Brittain accepted yet he has just played for Rovers in a friendlyΒ 15 minutes ago, neophox said: Surely Buckley will leave next week...only 4 mins today .. Deffo, he needs a move where he will be regularΒ Β 1 Quote
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