KentExile Posted 22 hours ago Posted 22 hours ago 2 minutes ago, RevidgeBlue said: Maybe with the second one, first one, just play him in your own team then! Until it happens as with all transfer rumours involving us I'll take it with a lorry load of salt. If there's any mileage in it though, not for the first time this summer we seem to be seeking a deal completely different from what the selling Club want. "Β£4m ? How does Β£1.5m sound?" "We know we agreed a deal but our medical has uncovered a minor problem that might flare up in future. We'll offer a pay as you play arrangement." "You'll ONLY willing to let him go out on loan? Can we have a loan with a view?" Creates the impression of activity I suppose.Β Rovers will loan out several players this season with the intent of improving them rather than selling them, other clubs do the same Quote
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RevidgeBlue Posted 22 hours ago Posted 22 hours ago Just now, KentExile said: Rovers will loan out several players this season with the intent of improving them rather than selling them, other clubs do the same Yes but generally to Clubs below us/them who think the loanee could improve them. Are this Club so far above our levelΒ this guy could make a massive difference on loan? Quote
islander200 Posted 22 hours ago Posted 22 hours ago 22 minutes ago, RevidgeBlue said: Story sounds fake. Why would the selling Club prefer a loan to a loan with a view? You'd have thought it would be the other way round. Because he is a young player and maybe they see a future for him there and only want to loan him to gain experience and playing time? Quote
RevidgeBlue Posted 21 hours ago Posted 21 hours ago 2 minutes ago, islander200 said: Because he is a young player and maybe they see a future for him there and only want to loan him to gain experience and playing time? So why dont they play him in their own side if he's that good? Let's see if it happens anyhow. You can be linked with anyone but it's irrelevant unless they actually end up here. Im calling BS on that particular one with the mock up of him in last year's kit as well. Quote
islander200 Posted 21 hours ago Posted 21 hours ago 16 minutes ago, RevidgeBlue said: So why dont they play him in their own side if he's that good? Let's see if it happens anyhow. You can be linked with anyone but it's irrelevant unless they actually end up here. Im calling BS on that particular one with the mock up of him in last year's kit as well. Iv not said he is any good I know the square root of fuck all about him. The link probably is bullshit but your point that it makes the link less likely due to his club only wanting to loan him rather than with a view is what I'm disagreeing with.Why does any club loan a player rather than just selling them? 1 Quote
Old Codger Posted 21 hours ago Posted 21 hours ago 1 hour ago, Damien said: Is it just me or is anyone else annoyed that Weimann elected to have surgery whilst being paid by rovers to be fit for the next season. Only then to fuck off to a rival? CCL. Gone. End of. Time to move on, even if he does rock up on our 150th birthday celebration game and piss on our chips. Quote
RevidgeBlue Posted 21 hours ago Posted 21 hours ago 9 minutes ago, islander200 said: Why does any club loan a player rather than just selling them? Quite often when you want them off the wage bill but there's no takers on a permanent basis. Quote
KentExile Posted 21 hours ago Posted 21 hours ago (edited) 10 minutes ago, RevidgeBlue said: Quite often when you want them off the wage bill but there's no takers on a permanent basis. "Quite often" is like asking "how long is a piece of string?".Β I would envisage that your scenario more applies to senior and/or highly paid players rather than youngsters But the majority of the time, (in well over half of cases), players are loaned out in order to develop and improve them Edited 21 hours ago by KentExile 1 Quote
Paul Mellelieu Posted 21 hours ago Posted 21 hours ago https://x.com/SportsPeteO/status/1950887738065985747 Quote
BankEnd Rover Posted 21 hours ago Posted 21 hours ago 2 minutes ago, Paul Mellelieu said: https://x.com/SportsPeteO/status/1950887738065985747 πͺπ at least it's not to Derby. 1 Quote
wilsdenrover Posted 21 hours ago Posted 21 hours ago 3 hours ago, joey_big_nose said: Hmmm, I broadly agree but not as pessimistic. I think we probably are offering simlar to mid bottom half teams. This is actually a question we can come up with a concrete answer for by looking at the published accounts I think? Which don't break down per player but do show overall wages. There must be site that shows the wage bills by club for the last accounting period? 2023/2024 I guess? The below is from hereΒ https://www.matchdayfinance.com/post/championship-financial-results-season-2023-24 3 Quote
RoversClitheroe Posted 21 hours ago Posted 21 hours ago 4 minutes ago, Paul Mellelieu said: https://x.com/SportsPeteO/status/1950887738065985747 As mentioned by Mercer. Terrible. Duru and Ryan to step up. I personally liked the look of Duru, but seems he had bad luck with injuries last season? Quote
Emerald Isle Rover Posted 21 hours ago Posted 21 hours ago Think sports Pete is awful although I think there could be some substance to this given the massive Hackney windfall pendingΒ Β Quote
KentExile Posted 21 hours ago Posted 21 hours ago (edited) 16 minutes ago, wilsdenrover said: The below is from hereΒ https://www.matchdayfinance.com/post/championship-financial-results-season-2023-24 I would also hazard a guess that if we could use up to date figures (following the 2 years of cost cutting after the court case & bond etc became an issue), and then take out Rotherham, Plymouth, Huddersfield etc, and replace them with Wrexham, Charlton etc, we may slip another spot or two at least Edited 20 hours ago by KentExile 3 Quote
rovers11 Posted 21 hours ago Posted 21 hours ago 5 minutes ago, Paul Mellelieu said: https://x.com/SportsPeteO/status/1950887738065985747 He's going to go so get it done ASAP imo. If its left to later in the window then the club will claim they tried to get a replacement in but couldn't get it done in time. Then they hope, once again, it becomes yesterday's news and fans don't shout about the money not being re-invested. We're still waiting for the Wharton and Szmodics money to be re-invested! We saw a top-ish level striker as a priority in Jan and were linked with some good names, yet come the summer we're not even targeting a new striker. How does that work?! 1 Quote
roversfan99 Posted 21 hours ago Posted 21 hours ago 3 minutes ago, RoversClitheroe said: As mentioned by Mercer. Terrible. Duru and Ryan to step up. I personally liked the look of Duru, but seems he had bad luck with injuries last season? Im pretty sure that Mercer said Derby. 3 Quote
MarkBRFC Posted 21 hours ago Posted 21 hours ago Covered this summers transfer business and then some in one fell swoop that Brittain deal. Pasha and Gestede will be laughing there heads off. 6 Quote
RevidgeBlue Posted 20 hours ago Posted 20 hours ago 10 minutes ago, KentExile said: "Quite often" is like asking "how long is a piece of string?".Β I would envisage that your scenario more applies to senior and/or highly paid players rather than youngsters But the majority of the time, (in well over half of cases), players are loaned out in order to develop and improve them Ok. We're going round in circles. The fact that the Club want to loan him out suggests they dont feel he's good enough for their first team. In those circumstances I'd say "the majority of the time" the parent Club would prefer a deal where there's a good chance of selling for a realistic fee at the end of the deal than an out and out loan. In fact maybe the story does ring true. We're probably wanting to loan him with a view to buyingΒ him for a half eaten Mars Bar and an empty Coke can at the end of the loan in our usual style. Quote
KentExile Posted 20 hours ago Posted 20 hours ago 1 minute ago, RevidgeBlue said: Ok. We're going round in circles. The fact that the Club want to loan him out suggests they dont feel he's good enough for their first team. In those circumstances I'd say "the majority of the time" the parent Club would prefer a deal where there's a good chance of selling for a realistic fee at the end of the deal than an out and out loan. In fact maybe the story does ring true. We're probably wanting to loan him with a view to buyingΒ him for a half eaten Mars Bar and an empty Coke can at the end of the loan in our usual style. I agree with your final paragraph Quote
RevidgeBlue Posted 20 hours ago Posted 20 hours ago 13 minutes ago, Paul Mellelieu said: https://x.com/SportsPeteO/status/1950887738065985747 But but..... Chaddy said he was staying. 1st X1 further weakened. Only ray of hope is it's O Rourke and he's been way off the mark for a long time concerning Rovers. 1 1 Quote
roversfan99 Posted 20 hours ago Posted 20 hours ago If Brittain goes as expected, then obviously a giant blow. On Weimann, I said at the time that I personally wouldnt have offered a new deal considering his injury and he did start to slow down before picking it up, but he can be someone you wouldnt have renewed AND a big loss at the same time. He has to be replaced, would sum us up that we offered him a deal yet didnt see fit to bring in another player when he didnt sign it. Holding a grudge over him having treatment for a couple of months is unfair. You cant expect him to sign a new deal just because he received medical treatment under contract. Also, no thanks to loaning young Saudi players. Signing him long term to develop as well as signing some more ready made attacking players, then maybe. Quote
FE123 Posted 20 hours ago Posted 20 hours ago 3 seasons Brittain has been here - misses 15 games a season through injury, goes missing when we are up against it defensively and we are getting 3.5 million with a year left on his contract. Normal circumstances good business, but these arenβt normal circumstances. Cheap or no replacement and weaker come the West Brom game. 1 Quote
roversfan99 Posted 20 hours ago Posted 20 hours ago I think O'Rourke has been off the mark for a while although did report the McLoughlin deal. Quote
DeeCee Posted 20 hours ago Posted 20 hours ago 15 hours ago, chaddyrovers said: I have done a squad plan for you and I said which position I want to strengthen.Β Ismael wants another centre midfielder whilst I don't want another but another striker. Which is DIFFERENT to what Ismael wants.Β Β Does the transfer window end in just over a week?Β The time to judge whether we are weaker or stronger is by performances, plenty of people wrote us off last season and look how badly wrong they were when Gestede said that comment I took it as the wide areas aswell not just striker area Β There it is! 1 Quote
roversfan99 Posted 20 hours ago Posted 20 hours ago Just now, FE123 said: 3 seasons Brittain has been here - misses 15 games a season through injury, goes missing when we are up against it defensively and we are getting 3.5 million with a year left on his contract. Normal circumstances good business, but these arenβt normal circumstances. Cheap or no replacement and weaker come the West Brom game. Under Eustace he massively improved defensively and certainly doesnt go missing. Cant see a better right back in the league. 5 Quote
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