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Posted
7 minutes ago, glen9mullan said:

Speaking to AO , the suggestion was, their time was up and a new deal was not what the club wanted.

The club didn't want to pay contracts of 10k pwk or more to them i assume.

If Suhail is saying spending big money doesn't guarantee higher league position you can bet the thinking is same with the wages.

At some point this man will drag this club back into league 1 in the near future i'd say that IS guaranteed.

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Posted
2 minutes ago, glen9mullan said:

Baath, Wiemann, Travis etc

Its also worth noting its the players council whose cards are marked, you upset the apple cart by speaking out against draconian behaviour at the training ground and your out!!!

Whilst I don't necessarily agree with it I can understand why they might be reluctant to sanction new deals for Batth and Weimann at their respective ages.

Travis is at a peak sort of age though and not to agree terms with him is lunacy. A decision that imo will cost us dearly by season end but then again so will not having a decent Dolan replacement or enough firepower etc.

You can go on and on.

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Posted
13 minutes ago, Tomphil2 said:

The club didn't want to pay contracts of 10k pwk or more to them i assume.

If Suhail is saying spending big money doesn't guarantee higher league position you can bet the thinking is same with the wages.

At some point this man will drag this club back into league 1 in the near future i'd say that IS guaranteed.

He claimed at the FF the wage budget had increased and expected the clubs wage bill to be around 12th in the championship come the end of August.

The new players are on buttons in comparison to others, so how he can state this I do not know

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Posted
6 minutes ago, glen9mullan said:

I cant emphasise how bad it is at the training ground in particular.

Contrary to popular belief Gestede is the most hated man there, even more than Suhail.

Long serving employees 10, 15, 20, 25 plus are exiting left right and centre and he's the route cause.

One employee, I talk to weekly who is pre-venkys stated its the worse its been at any point in his Rovers career.

We've got s ship people want off, and no amount of PR is going to mask it.

People are willing to talk and some maybe about to on record too. I cant say much more.

Nowadays I avoid transfer stuff as its not worth hassle, but the clock is ticking on things the ciub wont want public!!!!

As you know I wont put anything in written format until I have in my possession bullet proof docs to back it up or know it to be true as its horses mouth and can't be disputed 

 

Sounds bad Glen. Hopefully these charlatans will be exposed 

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Posted
1 minute ago, glen9mullan said:

Seriously the things ive heard from the lips of those affected is nothing short of bullying, we aint talking one person,  we are talking many 

Well, that only ends one way, to be fair. And it isn't with a strong set of results on the pitch...Just when there was a glimmer that perhaps things were actually starting to turn around too - and then someone screeches past in their go-faster-stripes Ford Escort and side-swipes yer pride and joy as if it was a jalopy.

Typical!

VENKY ESCORT DRIVERS OUT!!

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Posted
9 minutes ago, glen9mullan said:

I cant emphasise how bad it is at the training ground in particular.

Contrary to popular belief Gestede is the most hated man there, even more than Suhail.

Long serving employees 10, 15, 20, 25 plus are exiting left right and centre and he's the route cause.

One employee, I talk to weekly who is pre-venkys stated its the worse its been at any point in his Rovers career.

We've got s ship people want off, and no amount of PR is going to mask it.

People are willing to talk and some maybe about to on record too. I cant say much more.

Nowadays I avoid transfer stuff as its not worth hassle, but the clock is ticking on things the ciub wont want public!!!!

As you know I wont put anything in written format until I have in my possession bullet proof docs to back it up or know it to be true as its horses mouth and can't be disputed 

 

 

 

These things need airing through a more credible public source. Ideally national press if the locals won't publish. It always comes out as hearsay via the forum or Twitter and half the fans who attend don't realise what is really going on. All it does is cause divide... and surprise when one fan wants a board member gone and the other has no idea why.

Posted
2 minutes ago, Ghost7 said:

 

 

These things need airing through a more credible public source. Ideally national press if the locals won't publish. It always comes out as hearsay via the forum or Twitter and half the fans who attend don't realise what is really going on. All it does is cause divide... and surprise when one fan wants a board member gone and the other has no idea why.

Are you going to pay the legal fees? 

People speaking out is sensitive, its their livelihoods. It takes very brave people to come forwards and requires a significant amount of trust.

Papers won't run with stuff when they do have the evidence in black and white due to legals. I've personally in the past provided documents to local and national press, whose editors won't risk running the story's, which has frustrated the journalist, who has wrote the story 

Leaked emails etc, always needs consideration to be handled delicately.

Line the ducks up and ensure you get good legal advice.

This is about shifting the rot, not being a source of gossip in the pub to convince people, who if they cant see with their own eyes what's going on after all these years, then its a waste of time and effort to change their views.

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Posted

Sad to say it picking up similar bad vibes to what Glen is writing about.

Going into the new season as a very unhappy set up.

Ismael presser seemed very downbeat for the first game of the new season.

I fear the down turn inTrav and Tronstad form is because their heart isn't in it any more.

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Posted
7 hours ago, glen9mullan said:

Prediction of exits 

Buckley, Travis, Cantwell, Pears and Leonard , before window shuts !!

All English.

Club really don't want those ESC places next summer do they.

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Posted
7 hours ago, glen9mullan said:

Prediction of exits 

Buckley, Travis, Cantwell, Pears and Leonard , before window shuts !!

On the face of it, not too bothered about any of these players leaving for the right price.

I hope they're "unexpected" transfers though as that's half our squad. They'd need replacing.

Posted
15 minutes ago, Exiled_Rover said:

On the face of it, not too bothered about any of these players leaving for the right price.

I hope they're "unexpected" transfers though as that's half our squad. They'd need replacing.

Why wouldn’t you be bothered? The team has been dismantled and replaced with unknowns. Right price? What does the price matter, we don’t see any of it 😂

Posted
19 minutes ago, Exiled_Rover said:

On the face of it, not too bothered about any of these players leaving for the right price.

I hope they're "unexpected" transfers though as that's half our squad. They'd need replacing.

Well that’s silly your not bothered about losing your club captain and starting number 10

strange 

Posted (edited)
23 minutes ago, wilsdenrover said:

Only an issue if we get rid of an existing ESC player.

 

 

Yep, but "getting rid" of an esc player can mean either selling one, or converting one to a standard GBE work permit.

Either way, with fewer English qualifying players in and around the first team, even now before any more are sold off (already lost Dolan, Batth,, JRC & Brittain - along with several English loanees, from last years calculation, with Pears & Pickering no longer regular starters), it is very unlikely we would get anywhere near the required amount of minutes played by English qualifying players to keep the 4 esc slots we currently have.

If they do want to get Baradji (or any other potential esc signing) in, they had better do it this summer (or possibly January at the latest) as we will highly likely not be able to sign any next season.  It is entirely likely that if Travis & Cantwell leave, that Rovers will have well under the required 20% of minutes played by English players to have even 1 esc slot next season

24/25 onwards Criteria

However, from this season onwards clubs will be able to plan for the number of ESC slots that they have, with the possibility that they could only have one if the number of minutes for EQP is lower than 20%.

  Number of available ESC places
Weighted EQP minutes % Premier League Championship League One League Two
>= 35% 4 4 2 2
>= 30% 3 3 1 1
>= 25% 2 2 – –
>= 20% 1 1 – –
Edited by KentExile
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Posted

Sounds like a horror show in the background and excuse my ignorance but how/why can’t ex players/staff come forward to discuss the club? Is it a case of defamation? Reason I ask is the latest podcasts there Owen coyle took a battering from some players isn’t that the same or is that different?

Posted
8 minutes ago, Emerald Isle Rover said:

Well that’s silly your not bothered about losing your club captain and starting number 10

strange 

The club captain clearly isn't going to be here next season and the #10 has flattered to deceive in a Rovers shirt.

Both good players that I'd prefer to keep, but honestly I wouldn't lose sleep over any member of this squad leaving - they're all cloggers.

They do, however, need to be replaced if they leave.

Posted
12 minutes ago, BigHoz said:

Why wouldn’t you be bothered? The team has been dismantled and replaced with unknowns. Right price? What does the price matter, we don’t see any of it 😂

The team that many thought was taking us down last year?

It's a roll of the dice each season with these owners / the clowns they put in charge.

Who the hell knows how good the players they've brought in are. Who knows whether Weimann and Batth will fall off a cliff this season.

If those players listed leave they have to be replaced - if they leave and aren't then we're in serious trouble.

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Posted
13 minutes ago, KentExile said:

Yep, but "getting rid" of an esc player can mean either selling one, or converting one to a standard GBE work permit.

Either way, with fewer English qualifying players in and around the first team, even now before any more are sold off (already lost Dolan, Batth, Brittain from last years calculation, with Pears & Pickering no longer regular starters), it is very unlikely we would get anywhere near the required amount of minutes played by English qualifying players to keep the 4 esc slots we currently have.

If they do want to get Baradji (or any other potential esc signing) in, they had better do it this summer (or possibly January at the latest) as we will highly likely not be able to sign any next season 

Also JRC from.last years calculation too.

Soon won't have any English players left if what Glen is saying does happen.

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Posted
4 minutes ago, Exiled_Rover said:

The club captain clearly isn't going to be here next season and the #10 has flattered to deceive in a Rovers shirt.

Both good players that I'd prefer to keep, but honestly I wouldn't lose sleep over any member of this squad leaving - they're all cloggers.

They do, however, need to be replaced if they leave.

Middle paragraph is a contradiction in itself 

the last line is the problem 

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Posted (edited)
23 minutes ago, MarkBRFC said:

Also JRC from.last years calculation too.

Soon won't have any English players left if what Glen is saying does happen.

Thanks, amended my post. 

I suppose also Baker, Woodrow, ACD, Sanderson etc all also played a part in the calculation too, & no longer here

As always, it feels like cost cutting in the here & now (foreign esc players are cheaper than the English players we had/currently have), but no thoughts to the future... 1 (at most) esc slot next season  so the transfer "plan" goes out of the window.  Although I suppose then, they will just pad the squad with U21s 

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