2025 Summer Transfer Thread. 😂

[MarkBRFC]

So to summarise...

It's 8 homegrown players needed for you're squad of 25 (under 21 don't count)

It's 7 homegrown players needed in you're matchday squad of 20 (Under 21 do count).

At the minute we have Alebiosu, Hyam, Carter, Wharton, Pickering, Taveres, Forshaw, Cantwell & Hedges who would qualify us for the 25 man squad

The above plus Goddard, Michelski, Atcheson Montgomery, Batty, Tyjon who would qualify us for a matchday squad.

Obviously not counting Travis, Buckley, Pears or Leonard.

Is this correct?!

Edited 3 hours ago by MarkBRFC

[wilsdenrover]

5 minutes ago, CambridgeRover said:

There are two separate sections. The section you just posted is for matchday squads, the other section where the reduced squad size is relevant is for the registered season squad list.

Yes, I just worked out where the confusion had arisen from.

I’ve asked @KentExile to clarify re the reduced squad size rule but perhaps you know where this is from too?

[Exiled_Rover]

39 minutes ago, B16Rover said:

If we do turn Hyam over I wonder if we go back in for Isherwood.  Big, cheap, GBE free and having a good season based on Google 

Would not be surprised if Hyam is ushered out of the door for a million or so before next Monday.

[KentExile]

3 minutes ago, wilsdenrover said:

I’m not aware of the reduction in squad list rule if you can’t name 8 home grown players.

Perhaps @KentExile can clarify where they’ve seen this.

Read it some years ago,

a quick google shows (the below relates to Premier League, but stands to reason it will be the same)

AI Overview

If a club fails to name enough home-grown players for a Premier League squad, they can still register a squad, but the total size will be reduced because the number of non-home-grown players is capped. For example, with only six home-grown players, a club can only have a 23-player squad. The maximum number of non-home-grown players allowed is 17, meaning any player beyond that in a 25-man squad must be home-grown. 

[KentExile]

9 minutes ago, MarkBRFC said:

So to summarise...

It's 8 homegrown players needed for you're squad of 25 (under 21 don't count)

It's 7 homegrown players needed in you're matchday squad of 20 (Under 21 do count).

At the minute we have Alebiosu, Hyam, Carter, Wharton, Pickering, Taveres, Forshaw, Cantwell & Hedges who would qualify us for the 25 man squad

The above plus Goddard, Michelski, Atcheson Montgomery, Batty, Tyjon who would qualify us for a matchday squad.

Obviously not counting Travis, Buckley, Pears or Leonard.

Is this correct?!

That is my understanding

[CambridgeRover]

10 minutes ago, MarkBRFC said:

So to summarise...

It's 8 homegrown players needed for you're squad of 25 (under 21 don't count)

It's 7 homegrown players needed in you're matchday squad of 20 (Under 21 do count).

At the minute we have Alebiosu, Hyam, Carter, Wharton, Pickering, Taveres, Forshaw, Cantwell & Hedges who would qualify us for the 25 man squad

The above plus Goddard, Michelski, Atcheson Montgomery, Batty, Tyjon who would qualify us for a matchday squad.

Obviously not counting Travis, Buckley, Pears or Leonard.

Is this correct?!

From my reading whilst under 21 players are not included in the 25 man list, you can register them as an act of desperation to get to 8 homegrown players
 

[aletheia]

3 hours ago, BRFC. said:

Building for the future. 

Haven't we tried that one before?

Edit apologies BRFC -you were quoting Christopher.

Edited 2 hours ago by aletheia

[KentExile]

3 minutes ago, CambridgeRover said:

From my reading whilst under 21 players are not included in the 25 man list, you can register them as an act of desperation to get to 8 homegrown players
 

Yes, but there is no real point to it, as they would have been able to be used even if not registered

ie IF Rovers only had 7 home grown, so could only name a 24 man squad

they could register Tyjon/Montgomery & name a 25 man squad

But they haven't actually gained anything in terms of players they can use, as they could have named a 24 man squad and used Tyon/Montgomery anyway due to their age

Edited 2 hours ago by KentExile

[aletheia]

2 hours ago, Leonard Venkhater said:

Suhail et al wanted him out because he wasn't "aligned".

😉  Moving forward together...

[MarkBRFC]

Either way, it looks like we will just about make both criteria's for season squad and match day squads this season as things stand.

[Exiled_Rover]

One thing that's been impressive this window - they've kept their targets under wraps.

We only tend to find out about them when they're booked in for their medical - which is why we knew about Baradji for a few weeks before he signed.

Suspect we haven't heard who the targets are - the Senegalese lad, the Bolton lad etc seem to be wide of the mark. 

[Ricky]

I wouldn’t be surprised to see a British number two keeper come in which will help with the squad logistics. 

[wilsdenrover]

8 minutes ago, KentExile said:

Read it some years ago,

a quick google shows (the below relates to Premier League, but stands to reason it will be the same)

AI Overview

If a club fails to name enough home-grown players for a Premier League squad, they can still register a squad, but the total size will be reduced because the number of non-home-grown players is capped. For example, with only six home-grown players, a club can only have a 23-player squad. The maximum number of non-home-grown players allowed is 17, meaning any player beyond that in a 25-man squad must be home-grown. 

Thanks - I’ve looked at the wording for both the PL and EFL regs and there is a difference:

PL states a maximum of 17 non home grown players.

EFL states a minimum of 8 home grown players.

[Ricky]

Just on the Pears replacement. We could probably do worse than looking at Alfie Whiteman who was released from spurs. Only 26 and capped up to England Under 19. Could potentially push Toth.

[47er]

5 minutes ago, Exiled_Rover said:

One thing that's been impressive this window - they've kept their targets under wraps.

We only tend to find out about them when they're booked in for their medical - which is why we knew about Baradji for a few weeks before he signed.

Suspect we haven't heard who the targets are - the Senegalese lad, the Bolton lad etc seem to be wide of the mark. 

Anyone we've heard of is too expensive.

[roversfan99]

3 hours ago, chaddyrovers said:

Yes you find things or situations that only come out after they left, like Eustace over the Derby's approach or the fact he lied to the Rovers fans. You might be comfortable with that but I ain't. 

I like Ismael cos he told the supporters about the Brittain and Travis the truth, you might see it as throwing Travis under the bus but I don't think he ever did, he told the truth and as supporters that all you asked for. For some unknown reason, he don't agree and think supporters shouldn't be told the truth

Buckley, Leonard and Pears are all on the wage bill and we need to move on them otherwise we are going to either bring them in the fold or stick them in under 23's whilst still paying them. 

Also I think Rovers higher management/owners are allowing Gestede, Owen and Ismael to spend more than the original budget was. It was suggested the original budget was £5m but so far we spend around £7.5m with more set to spend. Yes they will be outgoing so more cash will be generate by the Travis sale, Buckley sale and possible others. 

I dont think you have factored in that most of the fees bandied around have been in Euros. Also, dont just take the idea that fees received have no impact on the budget. Use logic, we have made a lot in completed and soon to be completed sales. Obviously thats why we have spent more than expected.

Im not overly interested in what they say. If you want people to be annoyed with regarding Eustace's departure, how about the owners, Suhail and to a lesser extent the likes of Gestede and Owen. They are the ones that pissed off another manager to the point of leaving. Point is, you always rate the current manager higher than those who have gone before who you only start to criticise upon their departure. Always the case, everyone knows. You prefer Ismael to Eustace because he is the manager now, no other reason.

[MarkBRFC]

19 minutes ago, Ricky said:

Just on the Pears replacement. We could probably do worse than looking at Alfie Whiteman who was released from spurs. Only 26 and capped up to England Under 19. Could potentially push Toth.

He was very loosely linked earlier in the window I think.

Hasn't played a competitive game for over 3 years.

But might be a better option to sit on the bench than Michelski, as it would allow him to play games for the Under 21's and maybe even a National League loan.

Edited 2 hours ago by MarkBRFC

[BankEnd Rover]

 

[aletheia]

13 minutes ago, roversfan99 said:

I dont think you have factored in that most of the fees bandied around have been in Euros

Beat me to it.

[JHRover]

Chaddy should get a job working for the police or as a Judge. He has the ability to determine whether a man is lying or telling the truth based purely on what he says and this being printed in the newspaper. If only the world was so simple.

[Paul Mani]

1 hour ago, K-Hod said:

I think you're giving them too much credit.

They want players that are cheap and managers that are willing to work under the skinflint structure.

We aren't set up to push on from a position of strength, only to tread water. 

Close to the play offs last season? Let's sell the players that got us there.

Close to the play offs before that? The aim for the next season? Avoid relegation.

I really hope these players turn out to be class and better than those they've replaced, but even if they are, we'll just sell them and then start again. If we aren't giving it our all to get promoted all the time, what's the point?

Venkys don’t care and Pasha (bless him) thinks him and his mate RG can beat the system by scouring the market for cheap foreign imports. It 10000% is a strategy, and VI is ok with it, where JE wasn’t.

The mission of that leadership team is to retain Championship status while reducing the burden on their masters. 

The theory here is to make the club sustainable by utilising esc slots, buying cheap and selling high. They’ve washed their hands of the British golden handshake brigade and as far as they’re concerned, Eustace, Travis, Batth, Weimann et al can toddle off, on their big money contracts because they think they’ve got this thing nailed.

I’m not even entertaining the sabotage narrative, because honestly, I don’t think Venkys care enough to bother.

 

[Exiled_Rover]

13 minutes ago, MarkBRFC said:

He was very loosely linked earlier in the window I think.

Hasn't played a competitive game for over 3 years.

But might be a better option to sit on the bench than Michelski, as it would allow him to play games for the Under 21's and maybe even a National League loan.

Is he willing to be paid in buttons and accept being put up in the Training Ground?

[aletheia]

As it stands, we do seem to have spent more than got from outgoings this window.
Bear with me. I'm discounting the shedloads from Adam etc, sell on fees for Raya etc. Also, the plenty saved on wages.
Thus expenditure just this window circa euros 7.732m.
Incoming this window circa euros 3.87 euros (assuming for a round number 3m for Brittain).

Now they may just be happy to fund this 3.86m gap but with a week to go in the transfer market, and given previous, then to plug the gap it would seem clear that some ‘assets’ will leave:
Travis?
Buckley?
Pears?
Leaonard?
Hyam?
Tronstad? But surely too soon.

And in case it is not abundantly clear, I think that not reinvesting some of the incoming over the last few years tells you all you need to know about this club.

Edited 2 hours ago by aletheia

[Paul Mani]

1 hour ago, B16Rover said:

If we do turn Hyam over I wonder if we go back in for Isherwood.  Big, cheap, GBE free and having a good season based on Google 

IF we sell Hyam, I reckon we’ll go with Carter and Miller until January before we reasses. Just a hunch.

[KentExile]

1 minute ago, aletheia said:

As it stands, we do seem to have spent more than got from outgoings this window.
Bear with me. I'm discounting the shedloads from Adam etc, sell on fees for Raya etc. Also, the plenty saved on wages.
Thus expenditure just this window circa euros 7.732m.
Incoming this window circa euros 3.87 euros (assuming for a round number 3m for Brittain).

Now they may just be happy to fund this 3.86m gap but with a week to go in the transfer market, and given previous, then to plug the gap it would seem clear that some ‘assets’ will leave:
Travis?
Buckley?
Pears?
Leaonard?
Hyam?
Tronstad? But surely too soon.

 

Looking pretty much nailed on that Travis (£3M) & Buckley (£1M) will be added to Brittain (£3.5M) & JRC (£1M) in the very near future