Exiled_Rover Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago 4 hours ago, roversfan99 said: Obviously getting wages down is very much the plan. But dont let them fool you into thinking this summers overhaul is part of any plan. They wanted to keep all of the players that left and planned far less in the way of a squad change. Do we deserve more than 6 points? The game that seems to cause people to think we are hard done by is the Birmingham game. There was little in the game either way for 85 minutes, just one moment of quality. But it was solely down to our naivety and our poor decision making that led to a defeat. I still dont get how we can end that game feeling hard done by. Otherwise, West Brom and Norwich were deserved defeats. Hull we clearly deserved to win. I would also strongly suggest that we deserved to win yesterday, we took the lead and saw the game out very well. But if you argued that we deserved more v Birmingham, you could probably say that on quality of chances and territory it was pretty even. Your general point at the end is fair by the way. WBA scored 1 goal, which only happened because there was a foul in the lead up (their player dragged Alebiosu to the ground in the box). We also didn't get a stonewall penalty on Ohashi. There was nothing in that game We were winning against Birmingham until the referee incorrectly gave a penalty against us. So yes, we should have more points - but we don't because that's football. We should have had a penalty yesterday, but those decisions aren't going our way this season and it's definitely costing us points. 1 Quote
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Exiled_Rover Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago (edited) 6 hours ago, chaddyrovers said: Gestede has come across as unprofessionally and arrogantly? Yes, Gestede comes across as a massive knobhead. Edited 2 hours ago by Exiled_Rover 3 Quote
chaddyrovers Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago 29 minutes ago, roversfan99 said: Again chaddy, 1 first team player in 2 seasons has signed a new deal at the club. That being a left back who signed on a strange initial 6 month deal that was then extended. That pattern isnt normal and isnt healthy. End of story. You clearly are swallowing everything that comes out of people within the clubs mouths and that is your prerogative. Yes we all know that but was Travis ever really going to sign a new contract after Eustace left, probably not and then add his comments he made last week, made it sound like he was always going. I always noticed you avoid the Gestede's question, what is the context behind your comment? A conversation with him in person? based on an interview? what others who met him have told you? etc etc 1 Quote
Exiled_Rover Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago 2 hours ago, joey_big_nose said: Its early days but been impressed with all the signings except De Neve, Henricksson and Tavares. Plus obviously Baraji is injured. De Neve and Henricksson are a bit strange as its hard really to see where they fit in as there are so many players ahead of them. I guess once the game frequency picks up theyll get a game. Mori, McCloughlin, Alebiouso, Miller all look the part. Only seen a tiny amount of Gudjonsen and TGH but signs are promising. If we did manage to keep the squad quality similar to last season it would be incredible recruitment work considering we have no loans and no short term experienced players. Cantwell loves to miss a game with a cold or a niggle. Henriksson will play a lot this season. I think he's a goal scoring #10. Whilst Cantwell likes to drift out wide and create, Henriksson will be looking to get on the end of balls. Quote
blue and whites Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago Daniel Gudjohnsen scored two for malmø FF today. Sign him up in january, to play alongside his brother?😌 Quote
roversfan99 Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago 10 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said: Yes we all know that but was Travis ever really going to sign a new contract after Eustace left, probably not and then add his comments he made last week, made it sound like he was always going. I always noticed you avoid the Gestede's question, what is the context behind your comment? A conversation with him in person? based on an interview? what others who met him have told you? etc etc Again, you go off on tangents regarding individual players but the fact remains. And obviously regarding Gestede, how he speaks publically. And I am clearly not on my own in thinking that. 1 Quote
roversfan99 Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago 17 minutes ago, Exiled_Rover said: WBA scored 1 goal, which only happened because there was a foul in the lead up (their player dragged Alebiosu to the ground in the box). We also didn't get a stonewall penalty on Ohashi. There was nothing in that game We were winning against Birmingham until the referee incorrectly gave a penalty against us. So yes, we should have more points - but we don't because that's football. We should have had a penalty yesterday, but those decisions aren't going our way this season and it's definitely costing us points. It was a penalty against Birmingham. The West Brom ones perhaps but we were really poor that day. Its more the Birmingham one that people are claiming as unfortunate and undeserved whereby it was our own naivety and poor decision making that led to both goals. Especially the 2nd. 1 Quote
chaddyrovers Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago 30 minutes ago, roversfan99 said: Again, you go off on tangents regarding individual players but the fact remains. Cos you ignored the context of each player situation within your argument. Tronstad doesn't want to re-sign cos he wants to go back to Norway. Travis wanted out and go and join Eustace. Dolan was never re-sign here. We probably knew that 18 months ago. Brittain was the biggest surprise for me 30 minutes ago, roversfan99 said: And obviously regarding Gestede, how he speaks publically. And I am clearly not on my own in thinking that. So based on just that? Quote
chaddyrovers Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago 34 minutes ago, roversfan99 said: It was a penalty against Birmingham. The West Brom ones perhaps but we were really poor that day. Its more the Birmingham one that people are claiming as unfortunate and undeserved whereby it was our own naivety and poor decision making that led to both goals. Especially the 2nd. Yet you ignored most of the game which we were better team 1 Quote
roversfan99 Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago 4 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said: Cos you ignored the context of each player situation within your argument. Tronstad doesn't want to re-sign cos he wants to go back to Norway. Travis wanted out and go and join Eustace. Dolan was never re-sign here. We probably knew that 18 months ago. Brittain was the biggest surprise for me So based on just that? Yep, its just a series of individual circumstances and there is no pattern to see here and nothing that the club has done wrong. 2 Quote
Exiled_Rover Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago 51 minutes ago, roversfan99 said: It was a penalty against Birmingham. The West Brom ones perhaps but we were really poor that day. Its more the Birmingham one that people are claiming as unfortunate and undeserved whereby it was our own naivety and poor decision making that led to both goals. Especially the 2nd. The ex-Head of Premier League Referees said it wasn't a penalty and so did my eyes. To quote the great Brian Blessed in Flash Gordon: "Diiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiive". Quote
M_B Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago 34 minutes ago, roversfan99 said: Yep, its just a series of individual circumstances and there is no pattern to see here and nothing that the club has done wrong. There's very much a pattern, whether the club has done "wrong" remains to be seen. 1 Quote
chaddyrovers Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago 49 minutes ago, roversfan99 said: Yep, its just a series of individual circumstances and there is no pattern to see here and nothing that the club has done wrong. There is a pattern but also you ignored individual players wishes and can you say any where Rovers fault apart from when contracts talks started? Quote
RoversClitheroe Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago 2 hours ago, chaddyrovers said: Yes we all know that but was Travis ever really going to sign a new contract after Eustace left, probably not and then add his comments he made last week, made it sound like he was always going. I always noticed you avoid the Gestede's question, what is the context behind your comment? A conversation with him in person? based on an interview? what others who met him have told you? etc etc Chaddy I honestly can't believe your view points on contracts. It's utterly naive, I've never heard anything like it. 1 Quote
bluebruce Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago 31 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said: There is a pattern but also you ignored individual players wishes and can you say any where Rovers fault apart from when contracts talks started? Since there is a pattern, and such a strong one at that, do you accept the club has fallen short in sorting out the contracts? Quote
BankEnd Rover Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago 4 hours ago, CambridgeRover said: have to say what a poor post, you just come across a utter moron Sigurdsson has moved on and I suggest you do to  Wow, you been on the bevs? Nothing wrong with the post at all, certainly doesn't warrant a response like this.   Quote
rigger Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 19 minutes ago, BankEnd Rover said: Wow, you been on the bevs? Nothing wrong with the post at all, certainly doesn't warrant a response like this. Â Â If you don't want a response, then don't post. Quote
davulsukur Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 3 hours ago, chaddyrovers said: yet we made 10 signings. Surely we should only offered what we afford within the wage budget, is it too low or other clubs offer players much more than we can afford within the budget. Also if for example give Travis what he wanted then you also created problem with other players demand similar wages cos they are also key players within the squad. do you not see that? Do you not see with this self imposed wage cap, we'll never progress as a club? Our better players will always leave for more money and it's not to clubs in the Premier League anymore, it's Boro, Derby and Wrexham. This set up will inevitably lead us to another relegation to League One. 1 Quote
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