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Posted
13 minutes ago, Ossydave said:

A popular financial offering at present is a 'take 3' option.

Essentially you split the payment over 3 months and as such avoid paying any interest.

Do we offer anything like that or is it payable over like 10 months if taking finance, guessing significant interest is charged too?

£300 season tickets, £100 paid over April/May/June with zero interest applied. Job done....

 

its over 6 or 8 or 10 months I think. with arrangement fee of around £40. That is it

I'm sure Rovers would look at that sort of offer if mentioned to them. 

 

 

Posted
9 hours ago, Upside Down said:

Yes exactly, stop digging.

What you said made no sense.

What are we supposed to do with Preston North End? Swallow them? Grind them up into a powder and snort them? Inject them into the vein in our neck?

It made no sense, but we got what you meant. Why you wouldn't just accept that I don't know.

🤣

Posted
1 hour ago, arbitro said:

Phase 1 deadline is May 14th but the Phase 2 isn't available until May 21st.

Am I missing something or are tickets effectively off sale for a week?

Who dreams these things up.

Are they likely to sell any after the deadline anyway?

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Posted
27 minutes ago, Crimpshrine said:

Are they likely to sell any after the deadline anyway?

Perhaps not but that's not really the point.

Posted
51 minutes ago, Crimpshrine said:

Are they likely to sell any after the deadline anyway?

I don't believe that they actually do expect to sell many after the deadline, and any they did would just be a bonus.

The whole point of their strategy is to coerce/force all potential ST buyers into doing so quickly in phase 1.

Phase 2 pricing is the stick to do this with.

It's just a short term cash grab.

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Posted
2 hours ago, chaddyrovers said:

didn't we have 10 3pm kick off this season at home, 

3pm kick off

Oxford, Bristol City, Swansea, Luton, Sunderland(boxing day), Hull, Plymouth, Cardiff, Millwall and Watford,

All those games were not Saturday 3pm kick offs, which is what is being discussed.

Posted

They are running as bad a commercial operation down there as we’ve seen since the days of Blockbuster or Kodak.

The thing that always grates on me is that ticket revenue is still a relatively small piece of the overall, so taking that gamble to get 20k at £150 or whatever example you want - if it fails, the drop off is almost negligible 

They just don’t care though so it is to be expected. Ewood is dirty, dated, slow, and half full.

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Posted
26 minutes ago, superniko said:

They are running as bad a commercial operation down there as we’ve seen since the days of Blockbuster or Kodak.

The thing that always grates on me is that ticket revenue is still a relatively small piece of the overall, so taking that gamble to get 20k at £150 or whatever example you want - if it fails, the drop off is almost negligible 

They just don’t care though so it is to be expected. Ewood is dirty, dated, slow, and half full.

For me one of the biggest issues is that the incompetents at Ewood are given a financial target to reach and the volume of sales is really secondary to this. It breeds laziness and puts no pressure on them and keeps them comfortable in the knowledge there are around 8000 diehards who will usually but irrespective of price.. The targets should be both financial and numbers sold.

I remember Fraser Read and Waggott boasting about record sales financially but we still had thousands of empty seats.

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Posted
1 hour ago, Wheelton Blue said:

I don't believe that they actually do expect to sell many after the deadline, and any they did would just be a bonus.

The whole point of their strategy is to coerce/force all potential ST buyers into doing so quickly in phase 1.

Phase 2 pricing is the stick to do this with.

It's just a short term cash grab.

That's why clubs have they phases tho to get people to buy early and not later in the summer. I have been saying this for days and people buying early is providing these clubs with cashflow over the summer when there is no match day revenue 

3 hours ago, Mattyblue said:

Why should fans need to mention it to them? Do they not have a finance and/or commercial department down there?

It might be something they have though off but think people wouldn't go for it. If some people would be happy to pay the amount for ST over 3 months instead of 6 months. 

You sit here and do plenty of complaining about certain things but do nothing about it. Why don't you tell the club and management how you feel? 

Posted (edited)

You what? I don’t work for the club, why the bloody hell should I be thinking of their financing packages.

(But actually I do provide them with ideas anyway, as plenty at the club are avid readers of the board - Hi Yasir 👋

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Posted
23 hours ago, chaddyrovers said:

not many so far, didn't announce their ST prices till this week. My friends who are PNE supporters will renew but ain't rushing to do it, couple of days before the deadline

never mentioned whether it was right or wrong, but as I rightly said all football clubs do it and the reasons behind it to get cash flow into the club during the summer months when there is no matches on. 

Preston ain't big spenders either and my supporters would like a different head coach in charge and change of tactics and squad. Plus they have just lost 2 Key players on a free in Woodman and Riis 

Yet they've spent about 8 million in the last couple of years and sold no one of note.

Posted
1 minute ago, Mattyblue said:

You what? I don’t work for the club, why the bloody hell should I be thinking of their financing packages.

But you are supporter of the club and stakeholder of the club at the end of the day, why not raise your concerns and problems with the club either yourself, through the fans forum or WATR(if a member) 

Posted
4 hours ago, Mattyblue said:

‘To process seat transfers’, I imagine. Why that takes a week in this day and age, I’ve no idea.

To process the mass movement from the JW and BBE into the riverside, because it's cheaper.

They don't process new applications they just shuffle the pack.

Posted (edited)

Stakeholder 🚨 

I find K-Hod on the FF (pulling together ideas from this place) and WATR (I’m a member) already do raise good ideas re ticketing so are representing me very well, but thanks for the suggestion.

Tell you what though, for someone that a month or so ago was saying our commercial operation was crap it hasn’t taken you much to fall back in line - anybody would’ve thought we’d turned a corner on that score instead of being days from the early bird deadline with a pathetic 7,500 STs sold.

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Posted
4 minutes ago, Tomphil2 said:

Yet they've spent about 8 million in the last couple of years and sold no one of note.

and they just about stayed up and fans are questions Heckingbottom's tactics and now its end of the season, they went to know what the plan is now cos a new squad needs to be build including a new number 1 keeper, wings backs, midfielders, strikers. My friends would like a new coach who plays different way to Heckingbottom and actually play with some wingers. 

Posted
1 minute ago, Mattyblue said:

Stakeholder 🚨 

I find K-Hod on the FF and WATR (I’m a member) already do raise good ideas re ticketing so are representing me very well, but thanks for the suggestion.

Tell you what though, for someone that a month or so ago was saying our commercial operation was crap it hasn’t taken you much to fall back in line - anybody would’ve thought we’d turned a corner on that score instead of being days from the early bird deadline with a pathetic 7,500 STs sold.

commercial the clubs need more sponsors and more local sponsors would be ideal but I would say that at the minute given the finances of alot of companies it isn't viable at the minute. Businesses and families are struggling at the minute out there. 

I would like a new range of food on the concourse and I will let the club know my feelings shortly. 

given a few weeks ago, people didn't think we would get to these numbers of ST's sold and people were predicting 3-4k ST's sold. We are now back to similar number we had 7/8 years ago. I welcome Yasir Sufi's comments about having different ST's packages coming forward for people who want to commit to 15 games for example and wants a flexi season ticket. I also welcome the digitalisation of ST for some fans who want them like myself. 

Posted
21 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

That's why clubs have they phases tho to get people to buy early and not later in the summer. I have been saying this for days and people buying early is providing these clubs with cashflow over the summer when there is no match day revenue 

We all know that clubs do early birds/phased selling etc. And we all know that they do it primarily for cash flow reasons. We get that.

There's a difference between that, though, and what is happening at Rovers.

As I've said, it's a cash grab over a limited period of time, before the prices become (even more) astronomical in phase 2. They're essentially forcing any prospective ST buyer to do so now in phase 1.

It's shorted sighted, short terminism.

If they had any ounce of commercial nous, they could easily find other - non financial - ways to encourage supporters to renew early.

The price should be the price, no matter when you buy.

Posted (edited)
15 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

and they just about stayed up and fans are questions Heckingbottom's tactics and now its end of the season, they went to know what the plan is now cos a new squad needs to be build including a new number 1 keeper, wings backs, midfielders, strikers. My friends would like a new coach who plays different way to Heckingbottom and actually play with some wingers. 

They still managed to spend 8 million quid despite cheaper ST's and not selling anyone for 18 million, imagine what JDT or Eustace could've done with that kind of investment.

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Posted (edited)

So what’s your point? We had crap sales 7 or so years ago - I.e when we first dropped to c8k under Coyle, we are back there now (despite three seasons out of four towards the top end of the league).

Bonuses all round, I’m sure! 👏 

 

 

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Posted
5 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

commercial the clubs need more sponsors and more local sponsors would be ideal but I would say that at the minute given the finances of alot of companies it isn't viable at the minute. Businesses and families are struggling at the minute out there. 

I would like a new range of food on the concourse and I will let the club know my feelings shortly. 

given a few weeks ago, people didn't think we would get to these numbers of ST's sold and people were predicting 3-4k ST's sold. We are now back to similar number we had 7/8 years ago. I welcome Yasir Sufi's comments about having different ST's packages coming forward for people who want to commit to 15 games for example and wants a flexi season ticket. I also welcome the digitalisation of ST for some fans who want them like myself. 

Don't you find it odd that these supposed 'ST packages' won't get announced until after ST phase 1?

Posted
5 minutes ago, Wheelton Blue said:

We all know that clubs do early birds/phased selling etc. And we all know that they do it primarily for cash flow reasons. We get that.

There's a difference between that, though, and what is happening at Rovers.

As I've said, it's a cash grab over a limited period of time, before the prices become (even more) astronomical in phase 2. They're essentially forcing any prospective ST buyer to do so now in phase 1.

It's shorted sighted, short terminism.

If they had any ounce of commercial nous, they could easily find other - non financial - ways to encourage supporters to renew early.

The price should be the price, no matter when you buy.

I would have liked to see Rovers carry on phase 1 until end of May/Start of June pay day before phase 2 happens. 

4 minutes ago, Tomphil2 said:

They still managed to spend 8 million quid despite cheaper ST's and not selling anyone for 18 million, imagine what JDT or Eustace could've done with that kind of investment.

JDT spent around that amount in the 18 months here but after the project changed that second summer and his heart went from it. 

Eustace had 4m-5m spent during this season and he had us challenging for playoffs place but he was the head coach here but clearly want more of say in transfers than had here. 

1 minute ago, Wheelton Blue said:

Don't you find it odd that these supposed 'ST packages' won't get announced until after ST phase 1?

I think these ST packages are more next season, we need the technology in place to allow fans to be allocate that seat. 

Posted
54 minutes ago, Tomphil2 said:

They still managed to spend 8 million quid despite cheaper ST's and not selling anyone for 18 million, imagine what JDT or Eustace could've done with that kind of investment.

We're now looking at PNE with envious eyes.

Thank you, Venkys.

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